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Good man. Hope you ticked the box to refuse automatic updates.
Good man. Hope you ticked the box to refuse automatic updates.
Umm question, I'm not sure I'm even registered with a doctor, so how would I end up getting the vaccine?
How young are you out of interest?Got a call from my GP this morning and been booked in for my jab this afternoon. Slightly surprised as I am young and have no underlying health conditions, I am from a minority ethnic group however so I wonder if that's getting a push from this phase of the rollout or if it's based purely on the patient assessments of my GP.
28.How young are you out of interest?
Oh wow, properly young.
Congrats to you, I'm really glad you felt able to do it.Well, that’s me got Bill Gates microchips in me now(AZ). Feel a bit meh, slight headache, but nothing horrible. Hopefully that’s all I have to deal with and a lot of worrying over nothing. Stupid brain.
Go to your nearest practice (they have geographical catchment areas) and say you aren't registered with a GP and want to join them. They'll tell you what to do. You'll almost certainly have to go for a new patient screening, probably done by the practice nurse - they take your blood pressure, weigh you, test your wee, ask you about your medical history, that kind of thing.Umm question, I'm not sure I'm even registered with a doctor, so how would I end up getting the vaccine?
2nd question. How do I check if I am already registered with a doctor? Would I just have to phone local ones? I might have been registered as a kid but don't think I have ever seen a doctor in my adult lifeGo to your nearest practice (they have geographical catchment areas) and say you aren't registered with a GP and want to join them. They'll tell you what to do. You'll almost certainly have to go for a new patient screening, probably done by the practice nurse - they take your blood pressure, weigh you, test your wee, ask you about your medical history, that kind of thing.
Everyone should be registered with a doctor, so it's a good time to do it. If you got a really bad chest infection and needed antibiotics (for instance), you'd need to see your GP for that. If you had some health problem you needed investigating, the GP has to refer you to the hospital.
Great stuff.Early data on UK over 70s and vaccine efficacy results.
from the Press release/summary
"Since January, protection against symptomatic COVID, 4 weeks after the first dose, ranged between 57 and 61% for one dose of Pfizer and between 60 and 73% for the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine."
That's coupled with a further stat suggesting that the vaccines are reducing hospitalisations by 80%
Preprint of the PHE research itself.
https://khub.net/documents/13593956...c-b255-8e88-c2dc-88979fc2cc1b?t=1614617945615
I've not read this yet, just linking it for now, I may make some comments later if I have my stats head on.
I reckon everyone will make that decision soon enough. The Scottish data is fairly compelling and there must surely be a cut of their phase 3 trials in older people coming soon.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ccine-for-over-55s?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Belgium and Germany considering reversing their decisions to withhold the AZ vaccine from older people.
Most important element in relation to getting back to some form of normalcy for people. Some encouraging statistics in that summary.That's coupled with a further stat suggesting that the vaccines are reducing hospitalisations by 80%
Hope so. Europe seems to sitting on vast stockpiles of the stuff because of the way they've screwed up this rollout. From a selfish point of view I just want my folks in France to get their jab, although I can imagine Macron will be one of the last to change course given his previous comments.I reckon everyone will make that decision soon enough. The Scottish data is fairly compelling and there must surely be a cut of their phase 3 trials in older people coming soon.
He’s changed his stance already.Hope so. Europe seems to sitting on vast stockpiles of the stuff because of the way they've screwed up this rollout. From a selfish point of view I just want my folks in France to get their jab, although I can imagine Macron will be one of the last to change course given his previous comments.
However, last week Macron said he would gladly accept an AstraZeneca jab. “In view of the latest scientific studies, the efficacy of the AstraZeneca vaccine has been proven,” Macron said. “My turn will come, but I’ve got time. If that’s the vaccine that’s offered to me, I will take it, of course.”
Well done mate. No trivial matter to have the vaccine given your concerns.Well, that’s me got Bill Gates microchips in me now(AZ). Feel a bit meh, slight headache, but nothing horrible. Hopefully that’s all I have to deal with and a lot of worrying over nothing. Stupid brain.
@One Night Only, you don't need to know that, if it's so long ago that you haven't visited a doctor for many years. In any case, unless you're still living in the same place you probably aren't even on the old GP's list now. I expect you were registered with someone as a child, as it's necessary for pregnant women/new mums to have a GP.2nd question. How do I check if I am already registered with a doctor? Would I just have to phone local ones? I might have been registered as a kid but don't think I have ever seen a doctor in my adult life
And this morning France have said they'll give it to anyone up to 75, so clearly they've been reading my posts!He’s changed his stance already.
Nice! Do your folks fit into that window? Mine are only just over 70, so will be another few weeks before they’re done. The waiting sucks.And this morning France have said they'll give it to anyone up to 75, so clearly they've been reading my posts!
Thanks, appreciate that.@One Night Only, you don't need to know that, if it's so long ago that you haven't visited a doctor for many years. In any case, unless you're still living in the same place you probably aren't even on the old GP's list now. I expect you were registered with someone as a child, as it's necessary for pregnant women/new mums to have a GP.
In the intervening years, GP records have been computerised - it used to be all manual and small brown folders would be sent between GPs when someone changed practice. It's likely that you don't have a record now or it's just been archived. You need to get an NHS number, which will happen if you register with a GP (you'll already have one if you've ever had to go to hospital in recent years). The NHS number is also printed on any prescriptions you receive. That's like a NI number and is personal to you for all your life.
Phone a nearby practice (choose one that has a few doctors, rather than one GP working alone) and just explain that you're not registered with a GP and haven't seen one since you were a child. I'm actually quite impressed that you've managed to go all these years without ever needing to see a GP! You do need one, though - and not just for the vaccine.
I envy you your amazing health! But of course, as you get older there are things you need to keep an eye on - blood pressure is probably the main one, as you generally have no idea that it's high until there's a problem. Anyway, give someone a call today, they'll probably be as surprised as I am that you've got to 35 without seeing a GP.Thanks, appreciate that.
Nearly 35 years without seeing a doctor, never had a prescription either obviously I usually manage to power through any aches, pains and injuries.
Some of the work lads basically live at the doctors and I never understand things they talk about like sick notes, fit notes, etc. It's as if they just say to their doctors "I want a 4 week sick note" and they just get given a piece of paper saying "you're sick for 4 weeks"
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Good thread on how all you lucky lucky bastards who’ve already been vaccinated can change your behaviour.
Yes. Other good bit of news was that French pharmacies will be getting involved in the AZ rollout, so that should speed things up a lot. I think once they've been jabbed (and the obligatory 4 weeks has passed) I'm going to feel like a massive weight has lifted.Nice! Do your folks fit into that window? Mine are only just over 70, so will be another few weeks before they’re done. The waiting sucks.
I said change your behaviour.You mean I can finally be rude to people, kick puppies in the face and eat baby dolphins?
Oh....I said change your behaviour.
feck yeah! Im off out to push children off swings and throw stones at the elderly.You mean I can finally be rude to people, kick puppies in the face and eat baby dolphins?
It will be interesting to see what the uptake is in France after Macron's comments. They're already a very vaccine hesitant country as it is.Is there actually much appetite for the AZ vaccine in mainland Europe though, after all the sabre rattling?
Seems there are quite a few reports of terrible uptake across Europe and people not turning up to appts when they find out they're getting AZ and not Pfizer.
Likely a mixture of AZ's at times shoddy study design and PR, irresponsible reporting from some European newspapers and even more irresponsible comments from certain heads of state. And perhaps one or two other reasons it's best not to say .
Don't know how easily they're going to be able to reverse that to be honest. I hope they can.
Isn’t that all just anecdotal? Same as British people allegedly turning their nose up at ‘foreign’ vaccines so they can get “the Oxford one”. Makes a good headline but only a handful of weirdos behind it. There are plenty of countries in Europe where we knew vaccine take-up was going to be terrible in advance. No matter what vaccine was offered.Is there actually much appetite for the AZ vaccine in mainland Europe though, after all the sabre rattling?
Seems there are quite a few reports of terrible uptake across Europe and people not turning up to appts when they find out they're getting AZ and not Pfizer.
Likely a mixture of AZ's at times shoddy study design and PR, irresponsible reporting from some European newspapers and even more irresponsible comments from certain heads of state. And perhaps one or two other reasons it's best not to say .
Don't know how easily they're going to be able to reverse that to be honest. I hope they can.
I think the British thing is different. I've heard it both ends from the UK. Some who want the British one because...rule Britannia I guess. And some who want pfizer because of their impression it is a significantly superior vaccine.Isn’t that all just anecdotal? Same as British people allegedly turning their nose up at ‘foreign’ vaccines so they can get “the Oxford one”. There are plenty of countries in Europe where we knew vaccine take-up was going to be terrible in advance. No matter what vaccine was offered.
The main reason that mainland Europe has loads of spare AZ doses is the decision to hold off on using it in the elderly, due to a lack of data. With more data available they should be able to start using up all that stock.
I guess it’s an inevitable consequence of scientific literature being shared with the general public with an unprecedented level of detail.I think the British thing is different. I've heard it both ends from the UK. Some who want the British one because...rule Britannia I guess. And some who want pfizer because of their impression it is a significantly superior vaccine.
Sadly, it seems to be more than anecdotal and health authorities across Europe are admitting they need to try to rehabilitate the image of the vaccine:
Germans shunning AZ centres
Italian teachers' union upset at being offered AZ
Heads of some other unions across Europe upset at AZ offer
Merkel accepts an image problem for AZ
German doses not being used (and also as said, priority groups not expanded properly)
Germans not turning up
As above
Prof Mertens acknowledges image problem again
Of course seemingly poor organisational structures in some of the countries has played a big part, as has the limits placed on the age too. But there is a clear hesitancy amongst many people (including on here!) to have the AZ vaccine and I think many of the politicians/ PH practitioners are starting to realise how much they need to change the discourse around the vaccine.
I think the "image problem" is a bit overblown. It is and was definitely there and the whole back and fourth with their data as well as the big nationalism show-off didn`t help but I expect the scale of the problem to be quite irrelevant.I think the British thing is different. I've heard it both ends from the UK. Some who want the British one because...rule Britannia I guess. And some who want pfizer because of their impression it is a significantly superior vaccine.
Sadly, it seems to be more than anecdotal and health authorities across Europe are admitting they need to try to rehabilitate the image of the vaccine:
Germans shunning AZ centres
Italian teachers' union upset at being offered AZ
Heads of some other unions across Europe upset at AZ offer
Merkel accepts an image problem for AZ
German doses not being used (and also as said, priority groups not expanded properly)
Germans not turning up
As above
Prof Mertens acknowledges image problem again
Of course seemingly poor organisational structures in some of the countries has played a big part, as has the limits placed on the age too. But there is a clear hesitancy amongst many people (including on here!) to have the AZ vaccine and I think many of the politicians/ PH practitioners are starting to realise how much they need to change the discourse around the vaccine.
If that's the case then Kai Havertz needs to have the vaccine pronto!Some anecdotal evidence in the UK that the vaccines are significantly improving some people’s Long Covid.