MayosNoun
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How was that not a foul on Werner? These officials doing everything they can to ensure Liverpool don’t ‘slip’ too far behind in the top 4 race.
The technology is just fine, as shown in other countries. Don't know why the Premier League persists with their ridiculous line/armpit/whatever methods.Surely there has to be a better technology in the 21.st century??!
This is so uninspiring and increases the doubt that VAR is a good thing.
The line also said he was onsideAny sensible person would call that a fair goal by Werner. VAR wasn't implemented to cancel those kinds of goals. Nobody wanted that. It's how children enforce rules. No place for common sense.
I genuinely think the Premier League doesn't want it and are indeed tanking it.this is sabotage
they're sabotaging VAR
Yeah, it needs competence at the other end. It has been nothing short of a disaster in the Premier League. Comprehensively made the game worse. If they had decent refs and decent video assistant refs, it would be fine.this is sabotage
they're sabotaging VAR
It's not fine. It's clearly not precise enough for close offside decisions. Seems entirely arbitrary whether the frame is freezed exactly when the ball is played, or split seconds before or after. That can be the difference when an armpit hair can make you offside. You're right, though, a margin of error and a dose of common sense would help.The technology is just fine, as shown in other countries. Don't know why the Premier League persists with their ridiculous line/armpit/whatever methods.
The technology is fine. The people using it are not. All VAR has done is remove all doubt about the ineptitude of referees.Surely there has to be a better technology in the 21.st century??!
This is so uninspiring and increases the doubt that VAR is a good thing.
You can't. They made a blatantly wrong call. Proper outrageous, honestly.How can you be offside with your arm when if the ball hits any part of your arm during an attack the goal will be disallowed for handball? It doesn’t make sense.
think I might sue them. Got a bet on Chelsea winning!absolutely crazy
they should sue the league
Any technology that does this "Line drawing" thingy....it looks like a human being is behind the drawing of the lines.The technology is just fine, as shown in other countries. Don't know why the Premier League persists with their ridiculous line/armpit/whatever methods.
Really don't know. Thought you could only be offside for a body part you could legitimately score a goal with.How can you be offside with your arm when if the ball hits any part of your arm during an attack the goal will be disallowed for handball? It doesn’t make sense.
Don't all players wears trackers now? Surely it can just be done like that which would be accurate enough and then. Like goal line tech, the refs watch buzzes. No need for the waiting or reviews. Get on with the game.It's not fine. It's clearly not precise enough for close offside decisions. Seems entirely arbitrary wether the fram is freezed exactly when the ball is played, or split seconds before or after. That can be the difference when an armpit hair can make you offside. You're right, though, a margin of error and a dose of common sense would help.
It’s clearly not, you’ve got some bloke guessing where an imaginary line is on someones arm and then judging it on a mm. That’s not fine no matter how well he knows the rules.The technology is fine. The people using it are not. All VAR has done is remove all doubt about the ineptitude of referees.
It won't be if it hits the upper part of your arm, as you're allowed to play the ball with that part. That's where the offside lines are being drawn from too.How can you be offside with your arm when if the ball hits any part of your arm during an attack the goal will be disallowed for handball? It doesn’t make sense.
True. Where the armpit begins seems entirely subjective and coincidental. It would be simple if it was the lower part of your body but when you draw the line at an arbitrary place on the arm, you're bound to get inconsistencies.Once it starts measuring from armpits and sleeves, they need to accept some sort of margin for error. Feet and knees being offside is a bit clearer, but they seem to measure on a different part of the arm each time.
It's been around a lot longer in Belgium than in the PL and if anything it has made offside decisions easy as (as opposed to handballs, tackles or stuff) it's either black or white, you're onside or not. The PL just completely misuses the system with their weird lines and triangles and angles and whatnot.It's not fine. It's clearly not precise enough for close offside decisions. Seems entirely arbitrary wether the fram is freezed exactly when the ball is played, or split seconds before or after. That can be the difference when an armpit hair can make you offside. You're right, though, a margin of error and a dose of common sense would help.
You're discussing the method of how the technology is used, not the technology. Which, I agree, is wrong in England. There's nothing wrong with the technology in itself if applied correctly.It’s clearly not, you’ve got some bloke guessing where an imaginary line is on someones arm and then judging it on a mm. That’s not fine no matter how well he knows the rules.
They're planning to introduce something like that for the Qatar world cup.Don't all players wears trackers now? Surely it can just be done like that which would be accurate enough and then. Like goal line tech, the refs watch buzzes. No need for the waiting or reviews. Get on with the game.
Yep. That's been my suspicion since day one, which is why I refuse to blame the technology itself and go after the refs instead.I genuinely think the Premier League doesn't want it and are indeed tanking it.
What technology have I missed that’s not using a line but more accurate?It's been around a lot longer in Belgium than in the PL and if anything it has made offside decisions easy as (as opposed to handballs, tackles or stuff) it's either black or white, you're onside or not. The PL just completely misuses the system with their weird lines and triangles and angles and whatnot.
Not sure a margin of error would help either because then where would you draw the line? It would just shift the discussion from onside/offside to "how much offside was he", wouldn't solve anything. Just look at countries where it's working and AVOIDING debate instead of causing it, and use those methods.
You're discussing the method of how the technology is used, not the technology. Which, I agree, is wrong in England. There's nothing wrong with the technology in itself if applied correctly.
We'd soon realise how shit that was. I'd rather they just sorted their rules and refereeing.Just get rid of the thing and go back to how it used to be.
Yeah, that doesn't make sense because I could have a bigger upper arm than you and how do you decide where the upper arm begins in a fair manner!It won't be if it hits the upper part of your arm, as you're allowed to play the ball with that part. That's where the offside lines are being drawn from too.
The problem is that because that isn't an actual body part, it's hard for them to be consistent in where they draw the line.