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Umm, sorry to call you out on that, but here are a few posts of yours before Klopp had won anything. Nothing personal and you aren't the only one who posted this, but just highlights that fans forget the awfully wrong opinions they've heldThe biggest issue though is the idea that he's building something and needs time - often Klopp will be used as a metric for this particular notion. My problem is that it was far more evident exactly what Klopp wanted to do with Liverpool tactically, from his early days in the job.
I, unlike some on here, don't think Klopp is some sort of messiah. I don't buy into his showmanship and quite frankly, I can't stand him. That's irrelevant though. This isn't Dortmund, nor is it the Bundesliga and he has a very difficult job on his hands. Judging by his arrogant nature when he took the job, I think it's fair to say that he somewhat underestimated this league.
Anyhow, I stand by what I said about Lallana, he's wank. He's what's wrong with English football when it comes to transfer fees: Englishman with better than average technique, lets spunk £25m on him. One goal and one assist in 30 games says it all.
He's already lost 12 games since coming in including two cup finals, but yeah he's been superb.
Klopp is a defensive coaching genius on the same level as Martinez.
As I said:
In any case, Klopp hasn't done a better job to-date.
I thought once Messi, I mean Mane, came back all would be swell.
Most overrated manager I've ever witnessed.
How the actual feck did people really think that this Liverpool team was capable of winning the league? They have Wijnaldum and Lallana in midfield ffs.
Rodgers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Klopp
This one after they conceded 11 in 4 games and were winless in those 4 in 2017Yeah it seems that way alright. Their record against the bigger sides is pretty good. It seems to be against the lesser sides that 'park the bus' when they really struggle.
Delighted for the overrated prick.
Klopp: 131 points from his first 72 league games in charge of Liverpool - Rodgers: 138 from his first 72. Rodgers >>>> Klopp, for sure.
He seems to get a bit of a free ride, though. When people talk about pressure for the coming season it seems to always be Pep and Mourinho that people say the pressure is on.
Let's not forget that when Klopp came, the media in particular made him out to be some sort of messiah that would take Liverpool back to the top. It's all been pretty underwhelming so far.
I haven't seen any improvement personally.
Jesus he certainly abandoned his apparent sexy football didn't he. State of the stuff they play these days.
@Dumbstar KKAP - Keep Klopp At Pool.
He's done feck all so far and he hasn't improved on Rodgers whatsoever. He's really made the scousers buy into his waffle though and he has a free pass there for eternity, it seems. I want him to stay there because I don't think they're going anywhere under him but at the same time, I can't fecking stand the sight of him so would rather he pissed out of this league altogether.
Understatement of the century right there. When you consider the mental hype that surrounded him when he arrived, he's been an abject failure so far.
Believe me, I don't find Mourinho remotely entertaining these days, so you're barking up the wrong tree with that one. I don't feel he's the right fit for the club although things have slightly improved recently but our start to the season and his role in that, is for me , still completely unforgiveable. I'm also not a fan of managers creating a 'siege mentality' or a 'us against the world' atmosphere as I find it totally unnecessary. Maybe Livepool fans are blinded, but Klopp also comes across as massive prick a-lot of the time. I think you guys are so in the 'Klopp bubble' that you are all totally blinded to it.
As for the rest, in this day and age unfortunately it's all about silverware v money spent and right now, Klopp needs to start winning things. Again, Livepool fans are so immersed in the 'Klopp bubble' that all you guys can do is view him in this weird romantic notion, despite him being there 3 seasons and losing 3 finals. It's all very weird.
Exactly. If he wins nothing this season he's been there near 4 full seasons with feck all to show for it bar a CL Final / EL Final (lost both) and some good football.
Mourinho has a fairly sizeable win % difference than Klopp since both took over, but obviously Klopp has been there 8 or 9 months more. Yet Mourinho is seen by the media as a colossal failure (despite winning 2 trophies and reaching an FA Cup Final) while Klopp sits on this pedestal with the media. I know Mourinho brings a-lot on himself but I have no idea how Klopp has remained so immune to criticism. Given his outlay, if he finishes this season with no silverware, serious questions should be asked of him but they won't due to his **** following from Liverpool fans and the media.
Can't be bothered. Their squad is poor apart from their attackers. No chance in hell they'll challenge with 1 or two signings. City are flights ahead and a-few teams around them already have better squads that will also be strengthened over the summer. So yeah, nah.
Klopp: Started his job with Liverpool on 8th October 2015. Played: 171 Won:91 Drew: 47 Lost: 33. Win percentage 53.2% / made 3 cup finals losing all 3.
Mourinho: Started his job with United on 27th May 2016. Played: 136 Won: 82 Drew: 29 Lost: 25. Win percentage 60.3% / made 3 cup finals winning 2 and losing 1.
But yet, Klopp is the messiah while Mourinho is washed up. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Mourinho is the right fit for us, but he's been more successful than Klopp who is constantly lauded as some genius.
[Ok I thought it was self-explanatory: He's doing a good enough job but nothing like the media and Liverpool fans make out. Hope I've cleared that up.
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Yeah they've been massively underwhelming this season and I see them ending the season once again with feck all to show for it.
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And I just searched for your posts on one of the threads. A ton of posts apart from this, but they were around how he's a bell-end (which I sort of agree with) and all
And then there's also this thread: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/is-jurgen-klopp-the-german-brendan-rodgers.398545/