Bring players through the academy and hope they stay instead of joining Bayern on a free at some point, like Rues.
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And you actually think that’s a viable strategy?
Rely completely on loyal youth players and turn down any potentially world-class players joining from outside the club because they will end up leaving at some point. For a massive profit.
I'm sure they would rather keep players but they recruit players like Haaland and Sancho with the promise of "we'll sell you on in a couple of years when you out grow us". Both those players, and Bellingham, didn't sign for them because they dreamt of playing for Dortmund. They're a stepping stone that get regular CL football and allow ambitious players to do a couple of years and move on.
Do you really think there's a scenario where they actually get Haaland or Sancho without that promise and do you actually think they believe they can keep the pair for 10 years?
And what’s the alternative exactly for Dortmund? Only sign players who dreamt of playing for them who will agree to 10 year contracts?
They’ve formulated a strategy that attracts players they otherwise wouldn’t have access to and eventually makes a huge profit off of that choice. They then reinvest that profit back into finding the next batch of talented youngsters to develop who otherwise wouldn’t choose to join Dortmund.
The club’s main issue isn’t that they’ll eventually sell Haaland and Sancho, it’s that they didn’t fully make use of their talents while they had them. They’ll sell them both for an enormous profit and try again with a different selection of talented youngsters. Just hopefully this time with a better manager in charge of them.
The problems aren't the young stars but that they do not have a skeleton of older and relieable players, that carry the team and are able to control the youngsters.
Totally agree, they have become a really attractive club for young talents, winning in battle signings against way bigger clubs. Surely the downgrade is that a huge part of that attractiveness is that they will develop the players and let them go to a bigger team.
So they cant really retain the talents enough to actually challenge Bayern, being a Dortmund fan must be exciting and frustrating at the same time. Knowing the club will bring exciting talents each year but also knowing they wont stay for long.
This will be a really interesting summer for Dortmund. In a COVID environment, how big are the bids going to be? If the biggest offers they get for Haaland and Sancho are £50m and £40m respectively, what do they do?
If they've got no Champions League football and don't sell players who signed as a stepping stone and now want to leave, what is their selling point to young players?
It's an interesting conundrum and has the potential to blow up spectacularly in their face after they played hardball last summer.
I am quite enjoying witnessing this.
If they've got no Champions League football and don't sell players who signed as a stepping stone and now want to leave, what is their selling point to young players?
It's an interesting conundrum and has the potential to blow up spectacularly in their face after they played hardball last summer.
I am quite enjoying witnessing this.
I think the answer to that is very straightforward
Maybe it is. But the next time they go for a Sancho or Bellingham, the answer will be straight forward too.I think the answer to that is very straightforward
"You say, you'll get me a shop window and a move to a big club but you have no Champions League football and you've kept Sancho for 2 years after he wanted to leave. I'll sign for someone else."
That will impact their entire operating model.
Good club, well run and consistently overachieve in a league only one team should be winning the title. I like them. One bad season doesn't change that, it is also a season the best young player in the world has emerged playing for them.
If you’re upset about fans laughing at Dortmund’s form please don’t visit Old Trafford, they sometimes sing about rival fans shagging sheep! You’d be mortified!
They set an unrealistic price and an unreasonably early date (we were still playing in Europe). They then refused to communicate directly with us and forced us to use intermediaries which would obviously slow things down, and some reports claim that the date that they set was only leaked to the media and was never actually communicated to us properly, leading us to think it wasn't serious.
At the end of the day it's obvious that they didn't want to sell Sancho, but they decided they would pretend to be open to it to make a statement. Then they were very vocal in the media about it all, making themselves out to be big boys refusing to sell their players unless they got exactly what they wanted. Which to some extent is completely true, but they went overboard with it.
Now there are a lot of Utd fans who have been unreasonably toxic about it all ("they are a feeder club and should know their place" etc), but Dortmund did go overboard, so it's not surprising that a lot of Utd fans are finding their struggles rather funny.
Yeah but Dortmund get neither
This is a bit much. You sound like a fan of Dortmund rather than someone with mere respect. Btw, this is our turf who you will get some tribalism in our favour on the caf. That's normal. And more importantly the reaction to Dortmund wasn't due to us not getting our man, that's happening before with every club. It was the media circus that Dortmund as a club and especially their executives were playing up and fuelling. It was pretty classless really so you shouldn't expect anything different from United fans. Some go too far with their mocking of the other leagues, I agree with that for sure. But in general, the sentiment has reason behind it.We'll be in the CL next year though. We'll also probably buy one of their two main players, the second will leave next year.We'll end up with the same number of trophies
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Wow I forgot about that tweet. So banter is apparently okay when it's aimed at big mean Manchester United but not when feeder clubs like Dortmund are struggling to get in the CL places in a second rate league?
So many were here to only talk about football. Where are they? Surely that wasn't a fib and they really came to gloat about Sancho?!
I agree! And without Champions League football they will need to sell a couple of stars to balance their books! I’m sure they’ll hold out for as larger fee as possible but can’t see Sancho costing more than £60 million.
Haaland I think is a special case and clubs will move heaven and earth to get him at whatever cost
This.
Screw them, they were the ones that wouldn't let the sancho transfer saga drop, they could have been classy and gone silent on the issue but instead they had to try and rub it in on their social media accounts at every chance that they got during the summer to try and get more likes/subscribers
I hope they get relegated. Stupid meaningless club.
Spot on. People laughed at scouse delusion but feck me they acted like a big club so when they had a team to back it wasnt undercut by insecurity. I hate the way our fanbase invents problems or lies in wait for us to fail.
There's a nice blue team around the corner, you won't have trouble getting any seats, and you won't be missed. Zorc came out and gave a billy big bollocks statement about our club, the hierarchy at Manchester United have ALWAYS maintained their class. The Dortmund twitter has poked fun at Manchester United on more than a few occasions, but Manchester United's 'official' accounts have always retained their dignity.
If you want to talk pathetic, talk about how our club has behaved OFFICIALLY compared to how Dortmund behaved. The fans aren't representative as you can get a vociferous minority of idiots, but that's always been the way.
How dare you say something disparaging about another football club!
Potentially, but he'll choose where he wants to go and they will need that club to be willing and able to pay the fee.
Especially this season where the traditional favourites (Real and Barca) are broke and won't be able to bid anything like what Dortmund will expect.
There's also the release clause next summer so it's far from certain he won't agree to join one of the big clubs for his release clause next summer, giving them 12 months to be able to get their financial house in order.
Curious! What are they quoting Sancho for now?
I don’t know what’s more shocking; Dortmund’s shocking decline this season or Amir pretending to be a United fan since 2000.
Leave Dortmund on the internet alone.
Definitely see one of them moving. Probably Sancho as he's already had a summer of wanting out but being denied a move.
It's exactly this that annoyed me, nothing about their tweets. The price of 108m was a pre covid price, they refused to budge from that when the global economy was in meltdown (despite having signed him on a free) that was their choice, no one else's and I hope to christ he walks away for free in 2022. It might teach them not to be such greedy bastards in the future.
It was also clear from their comments on the matter in the media for months afterwards that they were sore over us not being stupid enough to pay 108m for the guy who is regularly late to training due to sleeping issues. Them not making CL would be wonderful.
I had forgotten about this. Thanks for the reminder. I knew there was another reason or two why I have come to despise them. Enjoy the europa league you kunts.....if you make it.
It would serve them right for being greedy. He’s not a €100m player
Could that be genuine? Were we not in EL at that moment?
Doesn't strike me as banter, but if we were still in fight for CL or something like that, they yeah, naughty.
EDIT: Yeah, we finished fifth, and were in EL. Nothing it it, for me.
Welcome to the echo chamber
If you'd see that without B/R football's tweet it would've been forgotten 5 years ago.
Absolutely love to see it.