Jose Mourinho Sack Watch | Sacked per 19-04

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Have a read of the spurs fans forums, yesterdays match thread, they hate Jose.
Jose is a bully, he seems to love falling out with players and not playing some of his best talent..
look how he tried to ruin Luke Shaw and look to how well shaw is playing now. He even tried it with Pogba.
the guys an egotistical bully. His days at Spurs are numbered. The games evolved and you Jose has not..
Levy was crazy sacking Poch
Don't think he was crazy sacking Poch. They weren't much better then and he looked like he had no interest in rebuilding the team. But going for Jose after his second stint with Chelsea and us was crazy.
 

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Levy is known as a great businessman but he regularly fecks up transfer deals that are horrensous in hindsight and hangs on to players for too long under the guise of being a tough negotiator
His whole cult hero persona thing came from him "standing up to Roman" in the Modric saga.
England might be, Arsenal not a chance, they might make stupid decisions, but I don't believe they would want to employ a manager that stands for Mou's approach to football, that just would not fit the club.
They were considering him last time and Artetaball isn't that much better if atall, the Arsenal way stuff like any club with any similar 'motto' is a load of hot air.
 

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According to the transfer gossip thread the Daily Mail are reporting he wants to bring back Fellaini :lol:

I really hope he keeps his job somehow

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Also this on BBC site today:
Tottenham boss Jose Mourinho is planning a possible reunion with former Belgium midfielder Marouane Fellaini by bringing him to Spurs. The 33-year-old, who worked under Mourinho at Manchester United, has been with Chinese club Shandong Luneng since leaving Old Trafford in 2019. (Voetball 24 via Sun)

The only thing that would make that funnier is if he somehow managed to pay £3m more than agreed after leaving it too late.
 

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I'd clubs did their basic research we would have been his last big job.

Genuinely wouldn't rule out another club being that stupid, Arsenal and England have the type of incompetent decision makers that would actually appoint him.
I think England are past that now. They got bit hard by the Capello era so Hodgson and Southgate have been quite a deliberate move in a different direction - especially with the focus on youth. Arsenal wouldn't hire him because of Mourinho's history with Wenger - his relationship with Arsenal, Liverpool and Juventus are damaged at a personal level.
 

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It's damning how unfit Spurs looked yesterday, exactly the same way we looked under him.

Spurs had a 7 day rest before the game yesterday where as we were in Spain in the EL on Thursday night with basically the same 11. And yet 2nd half we looked so much stronger and fitter and by the end of the game we were in complete control and Spurs looked shattered.

Does Mourinho not work on fitness?
 

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If clubs did their basic research we would have been his last big job.

Genuinely wouldn't rule out another club being that stupid, Arsenal and England have the type of incompetent decision makers that would actually appoint him.
I can't see him getting another big job in England. To be fair I didn't think he would after the stink he kicked up here but he's made his way around enough of the top 6 sides now with the same outcome that no sensible club touches him.

Arsenal would be mad to even consider it, and I don't think they would. Best he could hope for now is a West Ham type job, though even they wouldn't want him right now. If Newcastle got the long awaited takeover maybe...
 

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In hindsight they made a huge mistake only backing Pochettino when he'd already started to lose the dressing room, he should've been allowed to get rid of the ones who didn't want to be there, instead Levy dug his heels in and kept unhappy players at the club which led to Pochettino's downfall.
Yep. They should have backed Pochettino with some serious money when he had taken them to a good level. Instead they expected him to maintain their position without any spending. And if they had to sack him they really should have gone for a more progressive manager.
 

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How many CB combinations has he played this season? Would love to see some stats. Doesn't seem to trust any of them apart from Dier who isn't very good.

Reminds me of the period when he kept using McTominay at CB. :lol:
 

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I don't see him ever going Arsenal.

Their fans fecking loathe him.
I reckon he has two choices: a national team or progressively worse club teams. Ancelotti is managing Everton now. I can see Mourinho taking a similar route if he insists on club football and a certain level of salary. I'll piss myself if he ends up getting relegated with Burnley or something like that.
 

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It was an odd analogy for OGS to use re his son.

But Mourinho has just done what Mourinho does. Latch on to something to create a stir and deflect from the fact that he lost. The story becomes about him having a paddy rather than a poor performance/defeat
OGS said something similar about his son after the reverse fixture regarding Lamela feigning injury to get Martial sent off.

I feel for Ole's children to be honest!
 

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How many CB combinations has he played this season? Would love to see some stats. Doesn't seem to trust any of them apart from Dier who isn't very good.

Reminds me of the period when he kept using McTominay at CB. :lol:
I don't think he even trusts Dier, he had quite a long spell out of the team before starting yesterday. Sanchez seems to be his first choice and he wasn't in the squad, not that it would've made a jot of difference to how the game went down.

I have no doubts the only thing stopping Levy from pulling the trigger right now is the massive payout Mourinho will get. If he had any sense he'd bite that bullet if they lose the cup final or in the summer but this will drag on into next season.
 

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Yep. They should have backed Pochettino with some serious money when he had taken them to a good level. Instead they expected him to maintain their position without any spending. And if they had to sack him they really should have gone for a more progressive manager.
Such a boring and incorrect take. He blew a lot of money and didn't really have an eye for a player. People focus on 'net spend' when you only have a high one if you also sell cheap. He spent a lot in the summer before he left, too. His strengths were in coaching, and he'd exhausted those by the season before.
 

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I can't see him getting another big job in England. To be fair I didn't think he would after the stink he kicked up here but he's made his way around enough of the top 6 sides now with the same outcome that no sensible club touches him.

Arsenal would be mad to even consider it, and I don't think they would. Best he could hope for now is a West Ham type job, though even they wouldn't want him right now. If Newcastle got the long awaited takeover maybe...
I can only see him going to Everton one day, but yes, very unlikely he'll manage a 'top 6 club' again. There are probably few jobs in top 5 leagues around Europe in clubs that are similar level to Everton that he could go to (maybe Valencia/Roma or something like that).
 

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I don't think he even trusts Dier, he had quite a long spell out of the team before starting yesterday. Sanchez seems to be his first choice and he wasn't in the squad, not that it would've made a jot of difference to how the game went down.

I have no doubts the only thing stopping Levy from pulling the trigger right now is the massive payout Mourinho will get. If he had any sense he'd bite that bullet if they lose the cup final or in the summer but this will drag on into next season.
Remember how he used to go after Alderweired and Dier at every transfer window? Now that he is at Spurs, he binned them both. :lol:

Sanchez has been delivering horrorshow after horrorshow for them too.
 

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Also, is Ole Gollum or a Hobbit? He seems to be called both...and that’s just terrible middle earth lore
I've never understood the hobbit reference, Ole is 178cm, taller than Jose (174cm)
 

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Such a boring and incorrect take. He blew a lot of money and didn't really have an eye for a player. People focus on 'net spend' when you only have a high one if you also sell cheap. He spent a lot in the summer before he left, too. His strengths were in coaching, and he'd exhausted those by the season before.
Alright, fair enough. I was under the impression that he wasn't truly backed and had to wheel and deal for scraps I'm the market (Dombele aside who seems a good player).

But if he was crap in the market, then replace him with an upgrade or handle that within the club and not the manager, instead of going for a past it defensive manager like Mourinho. You must be paying Mourinho a lot as well ?
 

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The only place this disasour has even remotely a bit of a reputation left is in Italy. He'll never get another job in England and the Spanish can't stand him, PSG will be too clever not to appoint him so it's only the likes of clubs in Italy but he's already fell out with Juventus so the biggest club in Italy looks beyond him and Inter have Conte and will most likely go for Simeone after he leaves.

So looking at a club like SPAL or Genoa for him
 

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Alright, fair enough. I was under the impression that he wasn't truly backed and had to wheel and deal for scraps I'm the market (Dombele aside who seems a good player).

But if he was crap in the market, then replace him with an upgrade or handle that within the club and not the manager, instead of going for a past it defensive manager like Mourinho. You must be paying Mourinho a lot as well ?
Not at all. Baldini was in the job when Poch started, and Poch made little snidey remarks about it, so they got in Mitchell (who he worked with at Southampton) and Poch made snidey remarks in pressers about him too, and was all "don't ask me, I'm obviously not the manager". He was a bit of a child when it came to signings, and all the insider noises were that he just wasn't very good at player scouting/spotting etc. The season or so when no one came in was allegedly Poch turning down every player he was offered because he didn't want Grealish, Maddison, Tielemens, Fernandes etc. Same with how he wanted Janssen and Llorente but would still run Kane into the ground, and was praised as some amazing 'youth manager' but brought through basically only the players that Redknapp, AVB and Sherwood were using, whilst shirking the chance to use the highly rated youngsters like Edwards, Onomah, Sterling and so on.

I can see why we went for Mourinho - he's guaranteed every club a trophy, and that's our biggest stick to be beaten with. Poch was terrible for a long time before he went and the CL final was an amazing, but unconvincing journey - even thumbing in a flaccid on in the final. I think a lot of people would look at the squad and think that an established manager like Mou/Ancellotti/Allegri could win something, but it didn't help that he's put so much faith in playrs like Dier - who is a liability.
 

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Spurs looked exhausted in the second half. Surprising as they had a week off. I felt the same when he was at United. Doesn’t he work on fitness? Ole mentioned it when he first took over that the players aren’t fit enough
 

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So beyond past it. He can't keep his teams fit, coach attacking patterns or even organise a defence anymore. I'll be amazed if any other top team gives him a shot after this.
 

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Mourinho’s classic distraction tactics have worked once again, the media are always more than happy to bite.

The comments about Spurs’ fitness are interesting. I remember us being exactly the same when he was here, we looked like the least fit team in the league. It’s very odd for a manager who historically emphasises well-drilled and hard working over flair.
It's damning how unfit Spurs looked yesterday, exactly the same way we looked under him.

Spurs had a 7 day rest before the game yesterday where as we were in Spain in the EL on Thursday night with basically the same 11. And yet 2nd half we looked so much stronger and fitter and by the end of the game we were in complete control and Spurs looked shattered.

Does Mourinho not work on fitness?
His style is incredibly conservative. Its basically stick 9 men behind the ball and then play it long to (ideally) the two talented guys up top and have them sort it out. Its why Kane and Son have 19/13 and 14/9 G/A respectively and then you have Ndombele and Aurier with 3/2 and 2/1.

Fitness is not something he cares about it seems, which is why we were dead last in distance covered under him and why our players was on the verge of collapse when Ole tried having them playing with more intensity his fist half season
 

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I think there is a significant enough distinction between Smeagol and Gollum that we can rule that out. If they were calling Ole Smeagol however....
Smeagol and Gollum are the same thing though.
Smeagol who changed into the creatue Gollum was a Stoor which is a race of Hobbits
No, he wasn't a Stoor - he was of a people that was probably related to the ancestors of the ancestors of the Stoors.

This is of course all massively important in a Mourinho thread.
 

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Everyone going on about his style of play/tactics, it’s also the poisonous atmosphere he creates.
 

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Smeagol and Gollum are the same thing though.

No, he wasn't a Stoor - he was of a people that was probably related to the ancestors of the ancestors of the Stoors.

This is of course all massively important in a Mourinho thread.
It is massively important to the Jose thread

I feel like let down with my LOTR knowledge. I was sure he was a Stoor
 

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It is massively important to the Jose thread

I feel like let down with my LOTR knowledge. I was sure he was a Stoor
A lot of online sources just call him a Stoor and are done with it but I believe they are wrong, or at least ignoring nuance.

Long after, but still very long ago, there lived by the banks of the Great River on the edge of Wilderland a clever-handed and quiet-footed little people. I guess they were of hobbit-kind; akin to the fathers of the fathers of the Stoors, for they loved the River, and often swam in it, or made little boats of reeds.
This is what Gandalf says about them.
 

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This is what Gandalf says about them.
Taking into account undeniable relevance to the Mourinho thread, the following must still be noted:
- neither Iluvatar nor any of the Valar have created hobbits or their ancestors as a separate mankind.
- as such, by definition they must be the ancestors of either men or dwarves (we may most likely ignore elves here, as well as orcs).
 

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Taking into account undeniable relevance to the Mourinho thread, the following must still be noted:
- neither Iluvatar nor any of the Valar have created hobbits or their ancestors as a separate mankind.
- as such, by definition they must be the ancestors of either men or dwarves (we may most likely ignore elves here, as well as orcs).
You mean descendants, right?

But yeah, that's true - but then we're talking millennia. They - Hobbits and whatever Smeagol's people are - are quite probably the descendants of one of the forgotten groups of Men from the First Age, from Beleriand. At least that's my hypothesis.

Oh, and, erm, they'd probably be better managers than Mourinho at this stage.
 
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