European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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Spiersey

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Pretty sure the 5 spaces for invited teams will end up being auctioned off for at least 1/2 of the spaces. Al-Sadd/Duhail will almost definitely end up paying huge money to play on it one year.


It’s interesting that all ex players are against it, it makes me wonder what the thoughts of current players are. They are already paid huge money and the real aim of the elite players is to win the Champions league. I don’t see that changing to wanting to win a billionaires play league. You cannot fake prestige and history. Golf have tried it with the fedex Cup. The winner gets $15 million whilst for Majors the winner is about $3 million. They’ve thrown huge money in an attempt to make it almost a 5th major. However there is not a single person who would choose a fedex over a major. There is no comparison to winning prestigious and historical events. The Super League would be played more as friendlies than competitive champions league games as the players would just be playing for money essentially.
 

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Exactly. Anyone who watches the NBA understands this. The regular season is utter dogshit, and nobody takes it seriously because 95% of games don't matter.

The entire 18-25 game group stage will be the same.
Same as the NFL, regular season sucks ass.
 
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So I'm a bit confused. Will this be instead of the Champions League? Premier league will be like it was but 6 teams will be playing midweek games in a super league instead of the Champions league?
No, the Super League will not be recognised by UEFA and will be outside of their administration. The Super League will be a closed shop, with only clubs invited by the founder clubs able to participate. UEFA competitions would continue. The FA says any English clubs involved in the Super League will be suspended from the Premier League.
 

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Our current team isn't winning this, they didn't even make the knockout stages of the Champions League never mind winning the bloody thing. We have recruited because without it we run the risk of missing out on the top 4, that risk is gone, the incentive to spend the amounts of money to have some chance of winning the thing is not great enough so why not just take the money and finish wherever? Do you really think these owners are in this to win or to maximise profits?

Also there are a big chunk of people in here who have said they won't watch it, viewing figures for football aren't huge anyway so not sure how everyone else in the world will be when most football fans I've seen have dismissed the whole idea.
Tell you what, I disagree with everything you've said here. It's super negative and it ventures into wider areas such as ownership that I just can't be arsed to get into right now. When all the details come out and we all see this is just another European league format (like the CL but different) and everyone stops losing their shit for no valid reason, we'll revisit this thread and look at the grand over reaction for laughs.
 

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First, our history is built on beating domestic teams and winning domestic leagues. We don't sing about winning Super Leagues, we sing about '20 times'.

Second, the money will not be reinvested, as we have shown previously, they will go into the Glazers' pockets and if you believe the opposite, I have a bridge to sell you.

Lastly, if you are part of a competition based on your birthright, we are going back hundreds of years in terms of structure of society. This is nothing to do with what football is meant to be and represents for the everyday man. If football was like this from the beginning, it wouldn't have become the most popular sport in the world.

Frankly, your posts sound like a sales pitch.
Whilst the Glazers fleece us, we aren't exactly not invested in. We spent £80 million quid on a defender. I think you're a little disingenuous to suggest we wouldn't see any benefit what so ever. It may not be enough but I don't expect we'd rely on free transfers.
 

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you will though. I’m certain all clubs will play in their domestic leagues. I’m not saying it’s right, but we are creatures of habit, and we will continue to watch.
Once Katy Perry starts performing during the halftime show with sharks twerking in the background and everytime there is a VAR check it would cut to a beer commercial with an Orange shouting whatsup, pretty sure I'll be able to break the habit.
 

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We’d easily be able to afford it, but not with the Glazers in charge.

I cannot believe this is happening. Time to support my local non league team.
Honestly if we join some shit plastic league I won't care for Manchester United anymore. The club I love will be dead.
 

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A lot of dooms day talk based on a rant Sky put out this morning. You don't know any of this but this is the way you've chosen to view the whole event.

I don't want players like Grealish to play for Villa, I want him to play for United and if the transfer fees weren't inflated to feck thanks to PSG and City, we'd probably have him now. Once we're playing SL football, Grealish will cost us about £150m. Why's that? SL tax, everyone knows we have the money. What do you think Villa are going to do with that big windfall? fecking burn it? You work out it and then tell me why the league will be weakened.

This is a very melodramatic picture you've painted but none of it is going to happen.
They won't get that money because he won't want to stick around in what is now a second rate competition. They will be forced to sell. What will Villa do with the windfall? Buy great players? Will they feck. Nobody will go to these teams as they have no chance of a place at the top table. Nobody will care about the PL when it is meaningless to the bigger teams. You might want to pretend it won't be, but there will be times when teams just write it off completely in the hope of going far in the ESL. They can afford to finish 5th, 6th, 7th or whatever. Give their youth team a run out in the PL if they wanted. Because the men that matter, that only care about money, will make sure they do everything to go far. Even if it means throwing their PL season.
 

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I seriously doubt that will happen. Quote me.
Oh, really? I'm quite convinced it's that or nothing and very much leaning towards that the clubs are serious and will go through with leaving.

Obviously we can only guess.
 

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To everyone saying “you’ll still watch it”
Actually, no we won’t.
Perhaps viewing figures in Asia will be amazing but I will not pay a single penny any more and I’ve had sky telly for 20+ years and bt sport and anything I’ve needed to watch Utd play as much as possible.
This is such a sad day..............
 

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Tell you what, I disagree with everything you've said here. It's super negative and it ventures into wider areas such as ownership that I just can't be arsed to get into right now. When all the details come out and we all see this is just another European league format (like the CL but different) and everyone stops losing their shit for no valid reason, we'll revisit this thread and look at the grand over reaction for laughs.
Agreed.
 

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For the most part I'm against this league but is it bad that I'm kind of enjoying all the soap opera of it all?
 

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I’ve not seen it mentioned anywhere but the most glaring problem I see with this new league if it does go ahead is the fact that the majority of games in the league will be dead rubbers.

If you have 15 teams in the league guaranteed to remain in the league then any team below the top 3 have literally nothing to play for. If you are not close to winning the super league then all your games are meaningless as you have no rewards or punishments based on how you perform.

At least the premier league has Title, champions league spots, Europa league spots, relegation spots. Etc. Majority of teams in the league have something to play for.

This new league threatens to be an utter shambles.
It's two groups of 10 with the top 5 in each going further (top 3 directly, other 2 playing knockout between them). No relegation will make it dull, but more than half of the teams will have something to play for.
 

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The only way this is dead in the water is that for once, just once, all players unite.
I wonder when we'll hear from the players. Surely, if they're against it, it would fold immediately. This could have serious ramifications on existing contracts and upcoming transfer windows.
 

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This literally feels like a dream! They just spat in the faces of all the governing bodies by releasing that not hours after Uefa's and the FA's response.
 

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What power do they have?
I'm sure I read somewhere that the british government can in essence block certain business proposals from foreign owners if they have a negative affect on British owned businesses. Something like that anyway.

Someone else may enlighten us.
 

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Kudos to Bayern Munich, Dortmund, and PSG for refusing to the invite (even if only just for now).
For the German clubs this might just be a political necessity. Sell it like they didn't want to, but eventually were forced to join. If their clubs were on that press release today the majority of fans would never forgive the people in charge and probably try to vote them out as soon as possible and of course cancel their memberships or season tickets. This way they can try mitigate that a bit. I have no doubt Bayern will be joining either, as from what I remember it was actually their club lawyer that was exposed to be exploring these options for the other clubs by football leaks.
 

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How is football between two great teams dogshit?
When you play them guaranteed every season, it will wear extremely thin and the magic will be completely lost.

Football isn’t all that great when it’s a glorified cash grab for a select few.
 

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Joel Glazer, Co-Chairman of Manchester United and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:

“By bringing together the world’s greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season, the Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid.”
Such a load of bollox. Without relegation/qualification for 75% of the participants it's completely pointless from a competitive perspective.
 

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Tell you what, I disagree with everything you've said here. It's super negative and it ventures into wider areas such as ownership that I just can't be arsed to get into right now. When all the details come out and we all see this is just another European league format (like the CL but different) and everyone stops losing their shit for no valid reason, we'll revisit this thread and look at the grand over reaction for laughs.
If nothing changes league wise it certainly isn't the end of the world, but I still don't love the SL format, and I think the negative impact on the league will be noticeable even if we're all still involved in the competition.

But right now we're all in the dark really.
 

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Tell you what, I disagree with everything you've said here. It's super negative and it ventures into wider areas such as ownership that I just can't be arsed to get into right now. When all the details come out and we all see this is just another European league format (like the CL but different) and everyone stops losing their shit for no valid reason, we'll revisit this thread and look at the grand over reaction for laughs.
I'm negative? You've said you don't want clubs from smaller nations in the Champions League and you said you don't want players like Grealish at clubs like Villa. Just dismissing the relevance of about 99% of clubs for this tiny cabal.