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The German teams holding firm could prove to be a fatal flaw for this whole stupid plan. Who else are they going to get that adds the allure and marketability of Bayern or Dortmund? Who would the rotating five teams be if the German clubs refuse to participate?Impressed with the German clubs. Not having Bayern onboard is surely a massive blow to the Super League?
You realise all 12 clubs can dump domestic football and simply make this league their full time league?Honestly all the 12 clubs should be threatened to have deducted tons of points if they don't withdraw.
That will depend what is in their contracts...Only thing that will stop it is players.
It would of course depend on their contract. We would certainly see it tested in court.If a club is preventing a player from representing their country, would that be grounds for cancellation?
If they think the players will be happy to give up playing in the Euros and World Cup they really don't understand football.This will only be a good thing in Glazers eyes. Players get injured while playing for their National Teams and they play too many games. So this will make Glazers happy. They only care about the chances of making more money - nothing else matters.
It's a joke.Wait, is this a belated April Fools joke?
Lets be up front about this, the new CL came about because of EUFA trying to keep the big clubs happy. They're been threatening a super league for well over a decade.The new CL sounds dreadful as well, there aren't any winners here.
Agreed. I want all of them toe punted out with immediate effect and their grubby little league to go down like a popped balloon.I have supported United my entire life, like my Mother before me, gone to more games than I can count, they are one of the most important things to me, and would be delighted to see us relegated out of the Football League over this. That is how awful this decision is and how far removed from the club I've grown up following we have become.
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It does work in the NHL, where they also draft plenty of players out of Europe - players who are already under contract to European teams. There is (or at least was) a negotiated arrangement whereby European clubs get a certain compensation, but essentially it's the law of the jungle. For instance, both the NHL and the KHL (the top russian league) have simply poached players under contract elsewhere. I don't think you can stop that legally, at least not in Europe. What's keeping the system together is really UEFA, and the unified structure of football leagues which means you can't really escape from UEFA sanctions anywhere.Not sure I understand the question.
The reason why the draft works is because of the colleges as you say, and that players are amateurs until declaring for the draft. How would that even work in football? Players are professionals and under contract from the age of 16 in most cases.
The american leagues also have a cap system in place to make it more competitive. Are they considering that in the new league? Will we see free agency, trades and such?
I both enjoy and follow american sports, but the more I think about it, the more I hate the concept of this super league. Just kill it dead.
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As I say, godfather to Agnelli's daughter. The sheer drama of all this is remarkable.
That is what will happen anyway, if not now, then later. The blows will come in parts, not everything at onceYou realise all 12 clubs can dump domestic football and simply make this league their full time league?
The question here is: will Ronaldo go back to Sporting or move to US to play for MLS? International football for him is his priority specially at this age (same for Messi).And where will Pogba et al. go? PSG and Bayern can only afford so many players. Unless they're willing to take a massive pay cut...
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enforcing what? surely to play in either a uefa or fifa affiliated competition, you need to be playing in such recognized organisations? Expulsion will put pay to thatGood luck enforcing that.
End of a beautiful friendship.What a mess
It is the logical consequence further down the road.Wait, is this a belated April Fools joke?
You know he went away after this conversation chuckling to himself about how clever and sneaky he is. “In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces.", said Ed.
What so then it gives Ole Outers an excuse to hit Ole with?Good
It won't happen, they can't. If anything it would be NEXT season.I'd imagine it will violate their broadcasting contracts for one thing.
Oh, I know. We managed to help make the CL a much worse competition by having input in these changes (in my opinion) only for us to jump ship anyway.Lets be up front about this, the new CL came about because of EUFA trying to keep the big clubs happy. They're been threatening a super league for well over a decade.
And all the managers are under strict orders not to comment !The most disheartening thing is we are not only involved, we are a primary driving force.
Would be hilarious actually. Instant CL win for PSG, but would feel rather hollow winning it like that. Maybe the best possible outcome for the CL this year ?Tweet
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You know he went away after this conversation chuckling to himself about how clever and sneaky he is. “In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces.", said Ed.
Well yeah, but what else are you going to do? 12 clubs isn't much though, but if you get 200-300 mill euros to join in I guess there won't be lack of clubs.You realise all 12 clubs can dump domestic football and simply make this league their full time league?
me too. Fecking WoodwardIt saddens me that United are in that bracket
Almost a bigger money version of what Ashley has spent the last decade doing at Newcastle, we'll see if many still believe Newcastle fans were asking too much for a bit of investment and ambition when Utd are happily raking it in being bottom half fodder for City and PSG etcThe main thing for these owners is doing away with relegation/qualification from top level football. With that gone, they don't have to worry about investing sufficiently to keep their sides competitive (or risk missing out on the big TV/sponsorship money) - instead they can now skim off the profits for themselves. That'll be the motivation for Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool and United, anyway.
The reason is spelt revenue. They need the top talents for broadcasting revenue for the international games. Money is the decisive factor here, it's all posturing from UEFA at this point.enforcing what? surely to play in either a uefa or fifa affiliated competition, you need to be playing in such recognized organisations? Expulsion will put pay to that
Ed's favorite books are from Sun Tzu and Machiavelli.You know he went away after this conversation chuckling to himself about how clever and sneaky he is. “In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces.", said Ed.
No it doesn't, and no you can't turn the argument around. The 12 clubs want something that would be hugely detrimental to European football, and at worst turn the club I've supported almost my whole life into something I could no longer care about. UEFA wants to stop this. Which means that in this case, and however bad UEFA might be generally, they're in the right and doing the good thing.No I don't, I think both sides are driven by greed. So you could turn your argument around. Do you think UEFA is any better? It's equally shit and still a closed-up shop no matter how you twist things. It just boils down to media rights.