European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?

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I'm really judging any "fan" that thinks this is a good idea. Not to get too Top Red about it but it's definitely a certain sort.
 
Buchan said:
Good luck to them getting those figures when 50%+ of loyal fans will boycott this abomination. Do they really believe fair-weather fans will pump that much capital into the game, and on an annual basis at that?

No chance.
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They will. The storm will die down eventually and they know it, if the 15 teams hold strong and retain the players, this will be an enormous success.
 
gica_7 said:
The comparison with Nba is hardly the same. Big market teams has generally most chance to be successful but not everytime. If managed properly, every NBA team has a chance to be champions. Just like Ceferin put, clubs like Arsenal, United, Milan etc. wants this simply because they had to be properly managed to be successful and their money machine keep working. Yet, clubs like Sevilla, Atalanta etc has done everything right and still get punished. That's why I said who determines which club can attend.

I don't know the reaction of Asians and Americans. Sooner than later, this project is prone to fail. Especially with this many backlash.
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I think it will faill from the beggining, since for this to work they would need to estabilish a much more complete league system for all this idea to be accepted, and they would need the top 16 clubs to join which is not happening now.
Most of those games is something you can see every season on EPL, so they really have to be relyin on bluff. What concerns me is that names like JP Morgan are behind this, and those guys do not play arround with their money.
 
If this goes ahead, any tw*t that goes to Old Trafford to watch a Super League match should take a long, hard look at themselves. They will be no different to the Glazers in my eyes and just as involved in destroying football.

I'm absolutely ready to jack it all in and disconnect from football completely. Who the hell would want to watch this? A league where clubs are guaranteed obscene amounts with no threat of relegation. It's absolutely appalling, a hijack of European football.
 
Abizzz said:
I honestly doubt it could have happened. Banners and planes would have been childs play in comparison to the reaction to this.
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I agree.

This seems like it might have been accelerated with the current sterility in the stadia.
 
Tom Cato said:
Porto, Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig, *puke*PSG, so far clubs worthy of admiration.
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Easy here tiger, all the German clubs have the fans with the key vote so that´s that for them and PSG has an owner high up in the UEFA hierarchy and their TV station owns the right to CL TV broadcast in Asia plus they are deep into the scandal that the WC in QATAR is, so that´s a bit over simplified.
Porto are the only club who deserves any plaudit here.
 
André Dominguez said:
I think it will faill from the beggining, since for this to work they would need to estabilish a much more complete league system for all this idea to be accepted, and they would need the top 16 clubs to join which is not happening now.
Most of those games is something you can see every season on EPL, so they really have to be relyin on bluff. What concerns me is that names like JP Morgan are behind this, and those guys do not play arround with their money.
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2008 would like to have a word
 
UnitedFan93 said:
If this goes ahead, any tw*t that goes to Old Trafford to watch a Super League match should take a long, hard look at themselves. They will be no different to the Glazers in my eyes and just as involved in destroying football.

I'm absolutely ready to jack it all in and disconnect from football completely. Who the hell would want to watch this? A league where clubs are guaranteed obscene amounts with no threat of relegation. It's absolutely appalling, a hijack of European football.
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Have you cancelled your season ticket?
 
sullydnl said:
It's pretty hilarious that this supposedly great European Super League counts three teams from London among its 12 members too. Not exactly a broad idea of what makes a super league.
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London is the biggest city in Europe, so makes sense. same reason why LA and NY have multiple teams in a lot of their sports too.
 
Paul Pogba: Raiola, I want to quit United and stick with UEFA and FIFA!
Raoila: Okay, let me check who is interested...
Paul Pogba: Okay

Raiola: Well, we got offers from...West Ham, Aston Villa, Leicester...Betis, Sevilla...but only for 30 million pounds and 180k per week.
Paul Pogba: I retire.
 
meamth said:
I think the founding clubs, backed with millions of research and investment developing this will always predict this outcomes. The backlash, betrayal to football as what the media is suggesting.

To join something new by breaking away from established organization, they must have some form of security. I believe that is why there is no relegation for them. This is suicidal risk, and they all know it.
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No. The wanted to create a closed league, the closed league between marketable clubs is the point.
 
Buchan said:
Good luck to them getting those figures when 50%+ of loyal fans will boycott this abomination. Do they really believe fair-weather fans will pump that much capital into the game, and on an annual basis at that?

No chance.
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those matches will be 100% packed and viewership will be sky high, don't be fooled by the like-mindedness of the CAF.
 
Buchan said:
Good luck to them getting those figures when 50%+ of loyal fans will boycott this abomination. Do they really believe fair-weather fans will pump that much capital into the game, and on an annual basis at that?

No chance.
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Don't depend on fans. No one will boycott anything. Ton and ton worldwide will pay to watch the big names play each others.
 
arthurka said:
Easy here tiger, all the German clubs have the fans with the key vote so that´s that for them and PSG has an owner high up in the UEFA hierarchy and their TV station owns the right to CL TV broadcast in Asia so that´s a bit over simplified.
Porto are the only club who deserves any plaudit here.
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The German clubs all deserve plaudits, because we're applauding the fans that own them. That ownership model is showing what can be done elsewhere.
 
The most likely thing:

- banned from premier and europa

- super league won’t start, blocked by government
 
meamth said:
Yeah, but being relegated means they can try again to enter next season because they are still in the UEFA association.

This is like breaking away from a relationship with hotter chick, but you can't go back to your ex situation. Of course the clubs will only accept security for their participation.
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It allows us to be lazy, not spend money, and know we will still make money. fecks over every other team. This is really an end to football for me.
 
Some of the Other 14, want the Big Six suspended from the current Premier League season
 
UnitedFan93 said:
If this goes ahead, any tw*t that goes to Old Trafford to watch a Super League match should take a long, hard look at themselves. They will be no different to the Glazers in my eyes and just as involved in destroying football.

I'm absolutely ready to jack it all in and disconnect from football completely. Who the hell would want to watch this? A league where clubs are guaranteed obscene amounts with no threat of relegation. It's absolutely appalling, a hijack of European football.
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Aren’t we currently in a league where there is obscene amounts of money with no threat of relegation?
 
Boavista said:
I don't really see how that article supports your point beyond City sparing no expense. You're implying UEFA lost that case because they had worse lawyers, while at the same time saying the facts were on city's side.
I still think UEFA has enough money to employ lawyers of the highest standard.
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No I'm arguing Cities legal team destroyed Uefas best legal team in court. It was well known before the case City had the finances for a fight Uefa did not. If you think Uefa have anything like the money City have you are miles off. City went out and hired the best legal team in the world levels above Uefa's because one could afford it and one couldn't. I think I linked the wrong article, I've got a lot of bookmarks. David Pannick (what a name for a lawyer) was on 20k a day for City. The legal money won't have to come from club accounts don't forget.
 
AneRu said:
Yes that could be a long time but I don't trust the likes of Raiola and Mendes to forgo the big payday that this ESL promises and I don't see all the FAs agreeing to ban all the players either. Something will have to give but it would be incredibly incompetent of the rebels to go all in without the buy in of the players and their agents, I would expect that from Woodward but not Perez and Agnelli!
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It wouldn't be the individual FAs that would ban the players, it would be FIFA.
Not sure if it can be done or not, but if it can and does happen it will have huge ramifications.
 
The news have been overwhelmingly difficult to keep up with, so I will ask the CAF to help me:

With things the way they are, is there a chance that City, Real and Chelsea will be thrown out of this season's CL, meaning that PSG would win it automatically?
 
Wumminator said:
Aren’t we currently in a league where there is obscene amounts of money with no threat of relegation?
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We got relegated in the 70s. Leeds were in the Champions League Semi Final then Relegated for over a decade. City were in League 1. Things change.

We shouldn't be rewarded with top European Football if we're shite, that's what this is about. Owners not wanting to miss out on revenue.
 
Bastian said:
The German clubs all deserve plaudits, because we're applauding the fans that own them. That ownership model is showing what can be done elsewhere.
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Applaud the fans and the model yes not the clubs they have nothing to do with this. Just watch some of the meetings between Hoeness and the fans to see that they also see them being in the way.
 
Boavista said:
Isn't that a bit hyperbolic? UEFA messed up in that City case, but it's not like they can't afford the best legal teams there are. Legal teams don't get exponentially better the more money you throw at them. There's a cut off point where you either can afford the best lawyers, or you can't. Surely UEFA can afford it
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But in the strictest legal sense do UEFA have a leg to stand on? Aren't all these confederations voluntary organizations and certainly those 12 would argue that they the right to organize their own tournament to rival the CL?

I don't even trust the likes of Bayern, Dortmund, PSG and Porto. I think they know that the big twelve will eventually extract concessions from UEFA, FIFA and their respective FAs and they will join up in a year or so once the dust settles and the fallout has been navigated.
 
Ceferin shuts down any possibility of reaching a peace deal between UEFA and The Super League
 
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