Taken off reddit. Full Bayern CEO interview
The full interview:
**Kalle Rummenigge, CEO of Bayern Munich and Agnelli's predecessor at the helm of the ECA: why did it come to this?**
"We had been talking about it for ten years and we always decided to keep the existing model. Then the coronavirus damaged all of European soccer, especially the big teams, which without fans at the stadium lost a lot. Some clubs thought it was therefore a good time to make a Super League. And a big mess was born...".
**The modalities are striking. President Ceferin had very harsh words against Agnelli, what do you think?**
"I am sorry that what happened happened, because they have always had a friendly relationship and have collaborated well. The important thing now is to resume a certain dialogue. My hope is to still find a solution, because the Superleague damages all European soccer. And we must avoid it."
**What is the solution?**
"The solution is to reduce costs. With the Superleague, clubs are trying to solve the problem of debts, which have gotten worse with the pandemic. But the way cannot be to cash in more and more and pay players and agents more and more. We need to cut back a little, not put more on the table. We've overspent: everyone, no one excluded. It's time to make soccer less arrogant".
**Is anticipating the Super Champions a possibility?**
"No, the 2024 one cannot be anticipated, because the marketing rights have been sold. The reforms are confirmed by 2024: on Friday, even Agnelli was in agreement".
**Doesn't a president who serves the contrary interests of the association he represents seem serious?**
"Unfortunately, I wanted to talk to him, but I couldn't get him on the phone. I don't know his motivations and without knowing them I don't want to criticize him. Maybe there is a motivation that I don't know: maybe I can talk to him and understand better".
**Are you surprised by the fact that Juve and AC Milan are joining the Super League as well as Inter?**
"There are rumors that Inter have big financial problems and maybe they think they can solve them this way. The revenue they are talking about for the Super League seems enormous, but I don't know if in the long run the problems will be solved. I don't believe it. You can't collect more and more money to compensate for expenses".
**Uefa has also made its mistakes, don't you think?**
"The market exploded in the year of Neymar, but we were already on the wrong path and it is not the fault of Uefa and Fifa. Now we have a great chance to find solutions to return to a more rational soccer. All companies in Italy, Japan, Germany or the USA think about reducing costs: only in soccer do they think they can solve everything by increasing revenues".
**Do you expect to play the Champions League in August without Real, Juventus and Liverpool?**
"I sincerely hope not, I find it hard to imagine. It is a damage, on this there is no debate: without twelve great teams the competition is damaged".
**Do you confirm that Bayern is not in the Super League?**
"We are not in because we don't want to be part of it. We are happy to play in the Bundesliga, a 'bread and butter' business, as the English say. We are happy to make the Champions League and we don't forget the responsibility to our fans, who are generally against such a reform. And we also feel a responsibility to soccer in general."
**With a billion in debt like Barcelona, is it more difficult to make certain choices?**
"We fortunately do not have these debts."
**Is the choice of English teams due to American ownership?**
"Yes, because in Europe you spend a lot and maybe you don't win. In the USA, the first thing they think about is earning money".
**Klopp, coach of Liverpool, is a historical enemy of the Super League.If he were to come to Bayern, it would be a symbolic blow, don't you think?**
"We have not yet decided on the coach, first we win the championship and then we decide what to do. Certainly he has spoken heavily against his society...".
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