European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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Escobar

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I wonder if the bankers, lawyers, investors, owners and co. foresaw the amount of political backlash. UEFA's rage was predictable but to have EU leaders put out a united front (for now) and turn it into a political battle of national identities seems unexpected to me. Will this subside in a couple of weeks?
Very unlikely. They are so far away from everything, I truly believe they thought the fans would be behind them and them them for this brilliant idea. 100%
 

redshaw

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Did you win the final?
every now and again a miracle happens but that’s all it was haha
It’s Only Spurs
I remember Bayer Leverkusen getting to a CL final in Scotland. I can see why Spurs have been included but if the ESL was brought in during the early 2000s should Bayer be a founding member. It's more about how much money Spurs have been allowed to make actually due to EPL broadcasting success.

I think we all know it's bollocks that Arsenal sat in 9th can leapfrog West Ham and Leicester if they finish 3rd and 4th. Arsenal on 46 points could lose every game from now on and it wouldn't matter.
 

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That City tweet is wild, what the hell :lol:
They're probably the closest to get out of it, that's why. Chelsea might be next. We will be last, and we are the most disgraceful of the lot right now. We have to do something about that ownership now if they will not understand the concept of sports in the UK and in Europe in general.
 

NinjaZombie

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I never heard about that. And Americans love it?
I have no idea. I am not an American. I can imagine a situation where the owners keep tanking, then not getting a good draft pick, over and over until fans stop coming. Then they'll up sticks and move the "franchise" to a new city, saddling that new city with debts they'd accrue building a new fangled stadium.
 

Zlatan 7

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He's just saying that they don't need to.
Neither do other teams that have joined? So what if they don’t need to? Anyone that turns it down has my respect more than an opportunity to take a swipe and say wahh wahh what about this what about that.
 

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What can we as fans do as a positive response?

How about we donate to Rashford's food charity as a peaceful protest? The more money coming in the bigger attention it will get, increasing the pressure.
 

Rightnr

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Because people have to get realistic, expelling the big six from the PL is not the answer, making players or managers speak out against their employers in public is not the answer. The argument will get polarised instead of trying to come to a solution.
I am sure this kind of 'realistic thinking' would see us have a 1800s world today if everyone was cynical and realistic at all times.

Sometimes to get major change, you need to take the plunge.

This whole situation is dire but if we come out of it with some genuine football reform, it'd be great.
 

JPRouve

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Not sure if baseball still pay 'Luxury Tax', but going back it was well known that owners of smaller teams just pocketed it and did not use it to strengthen their own teams.
Absolutely but that's a different story. The Padres and Rays owners have been accused of that if I'm not mistaken.
 

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Pexbo

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With a bit of luck this will get smacked down and the Glazers long term business model will be shredded and they will look for a buyer.
 

TheMagicFoolBus

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I have no idea. I am not an American. I can imagine a situation where the owners keep tanking, then not getting a good draft pick, over and over until fans stop coming. Then they'll up sticks and move the "franchise" to a new city, saddling that new city with debts they'd accrue building a new fangled stadium.
I don't think that particular scenario has ever happened yet to my knowledge. Probably the most egregious example of tanking was what the Philadelphia Sixers of the NBA did a few years ago called "The Process" - essentially this was about a multiyear plan to trade every decent player on the roster and be as atrocious as humanly possible for an entire ~3 season period.

Fans mostly were generally pretty positive - part of the thing with America as well is that these large cities have multiple teams competing in the different leagues, so Sixers fans could focus instead on the Eagles in the NFL, Villanova in the NCAAs, the Flyers in the NHL, etc. That's generally not the case in Europe.
 

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I am sure this kind of 'realistic thinking' would see us have a 1800s world today if everyone was cynical and realistic at all times.

Sometimes to get major change, you need to take the plunge.

This whole situation is dire but if we come out of it with some genuine football reform, it'd be great.
But everyone seems to be jumping in without actually thinking of what would happen if what they are suggesting did happen.
Remember Brexit, no Brexiter thought of the consequences.

If everyone really wants to stop it then devise a proper plan taking into consideration what happens if this happens or that happens.
 

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Based on what one random tweet?

Didn't want to be a part of it yet they're signed up as founding members of the SL and have the statement on their official sites. Do me a favour mate, they're as bad as the rest.

Arguably worse as they've only been invited due to massive financial doping and now they want to protect their own position at the top of football by making sure that isn't replicated by other clubs.
It is coming from a number of places that they weren't in the vanguard of this and signed up out of cowardice.
He did something similar to a child playing rugby :lol:

Nah, that is actually Joel Glazer. Fecker got himself cloned as an Asian kid.
 

FreakyJim

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Shaping up to be a humiliating time for some of the leeches and mobsters.

If City and Chelsea pull out - it's over. Will be glorious, Joel will probably cry.
 
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What did he say of substance?
"It is not a sport where the relation between effort and success does not exist"

"It is not a sport where success is already guaranteed and it doesn't matter when you lose"

'It's not fair when one team fight, fight, fight for the top and still cannot be qualified because it is just for a few teams."

"The right people - the owners - have the obligation, the duty, to clarify as soon as possible, clarify all around the world why these teams should play and the others not. Ajax - with four Champions Leagues - why they are not there?"

"For all of us managers, it is uncomfortable. Presidents can talk more clear what is the idea for the future and where football is going to go. I would love the president go all around the world and say what is the reason they took this decision."

"I support this club and I am part of the club but also I have my own opinion."


You're not going to find a stronger, or more real and off the cuff, condemnation than that from any player or manager who's part of the 'competition'
 

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Hollow words from big corp.

Its not.

Its important.

This is big money, the biggest money of them all, recognizing what an absolute PR disaster is happening right now.

If they are consciously making the decision to distance themselves from even the rumour they were thinking about showing it, then you can bet other big money has their arses flapping in the wind too.