Today is a good day for football and justice.
George Floyd | Chauvin guilty on all counts | Sentenced to 22.5 years
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Without doubt, but it does give some faint sense of hope for change.
I know if anything was likely going to send my city into flames it would have been Donnie’s antics due to his visit, but I still breathed a sigh of relief today.
How many years is he getting?
Hopefully it's a turning point.
Sentencing won’t be for another 8 weeks.
S & S has denied the author & the subsidiary their distribution network thankfully. That could nix it.
It will be interesting to see how long it takes before we are back right here.
Agreed. I got so many notifications for my post and expected a backlash, but it's reassuring to see that I am not alone in feeling empathy for both.
I bloody hope so
Yeah
I was only about 10 but I remember it seemed like people were shocked, then the heavens opened and there was a loud blast of thunder. Thankfully I'd grown out of religion by then or I would have pooped my pants.
The thing that gets me with this case is the amount of footage available. It's honestly mindboggling and just so damning. What's clear is that if this was 20 or 30 years ago, he'd get away with it. When you see the actual incident on camera, it's...just surreal.
This outcome was inevitable. I never once thought for a second that he was anything but guilty.
This outcome was inevitable. I never once thought for a second that he was anything but guilty.
I feel a bit conflicted about this. On one hand it definitely feels like justice - on the other hand I hope the celebration from one side quickly make way for an approach between the two sides because the last thing we need is a police that will see this an excuse to become more radical within their ranks as a way to show disapproval. Use this as a position of strength to seriously sit at the table and make it clear that neither side truly wins when the divide is the victor as opposed to where they agree. I got the sense a majority of officers thought what Chauvin was wrong - but also that he didnt stand a chance at a fair trial. While that's probably not true - I do see where they may get those feelings. Don't give them a reason to strengthen their beliefs in union and department protection - rather make them feel that good cops are great cops and that if they do their jobs the right way they ll be protected.
Sorry for the rambling post - hope it's clear what I'm trying to say.
Sorry for the rambling post - hope it's clear what I'm trying to say.
I've not been following this trial very closely, but from what I've seen I was expecting him to get off as I didn't think the prosecution would convince the jury unanimously that Chauvin's actions constituted murder. I was expecting him to maybe cop a lesser charge (I'm not sure whether or not that was even on the table to be honest) but I'm pleasantly surprised he's been done for murder.
This can't go on and it's time for change, and though it's terrible lives including those of George Floyd and others have been lost in the struggle, hopefully this is a moment we can look back on with positivity.
This can't go on and it's time for change, and though it's terrible lives including those of George Floyd and others have been lost in the struggle, hopefully this is a moment we can look back on with positivity.
Look, I get your sentiment but at the end of the day, it is simple: don't commit acts of brutality on citizens and respect for police will follow naturally.
Adds nothing to the discussion
FTP.
Police departments need to be demilitarized and defunded with a corresponding increase in funding for social services. Police officers also need to be much more highly trained - anyone who has the power to instantly ruin someone's life had better be qualified. Qualified immunity has to go too - I researched police misconduct in jails and so many cases died before they could even start, regardless of the facts, because the officers couldn't be held liable. So many of these suggestions are just obvious fixes too and would make things better for everyone, very frustrating that a lot of people are apparently perfectly happy to shoot themselves in the foot in order to feck over black people and other minorities. Tbf I suppose that demographic is probably the most likely to shoot themselves in the foot in general.
Gross.
Good.
Indeed, any cop who watched the George Floyd video and thinks Chauvin would have been found not guilty if only he had a fair trial is completely full of it and probably past the point of outreach.
You’re baked, aren’t you? Teasing.
I think the cops’ views are reflective of how a very small shift towards further police accountability is affecting them.
This verdict wasn’t due to a shift in legal structure.
It was due to a proliferation of cameras.
It was due to a proliferation of cameras.
You don’t care about us
Didn't necessarily expect it, so it's a relief. I still see no reason for any kind of joy or greater optimism, things are just a bit less shit than they could be.
Result!
Reaction from the deplorables?
Serious question...
What exactly is Crump’s role as family attorney in this trial?
What exactly is Crump’s role as family attorney in this trial?
What a day this is. Love it.
Gone from thinking he was going to walk to it not being a fair trial. That said, we should hope that the defence doesn't have evidence of the jury seeing comments from public figures about it or there would be a risk to the verdict.
"They're ruining our country" (probably)
But Ashli?!?
Not sure specifically, but his future revenue is trending very positively.
Such is the life of a high profile attorney, regardless the flavor.
Great news!
In the trial probably nothing official other than helping the prosecution and working on behalf of the family there. But he negotiated the 27 million dollar settlement the family got.
Pretty certain it would have been a mistrial if any juror info was doxed.
That is a worthless person.
Yeah but if the good ones are discouraged from speaking out for fear of being forced out etc and in the meantime the bad ones have to do something as much as killing someone to not get off easy then it's clear this trial really hasn't solved the underlying issue.
Damn. His nephew just gave a damn powerful unscripted speech.