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So proud of you guys. You did it!
Never a doubt in my mind!
Never a doubt in my mind!
We didn't do shitWe should still be punished in some form,this was a coup.
That's the most important job really. All the dirty work is done at the shitpost.To be fair all I did was shitpost
You lost, unlucky.How about you get off your high horse you clown
Yeah alright.We didn't do shit
I hope this starts a war between UEFA and Spanish teams. God knows how many times these two teams have been helped by the refs in the champions league.Perez is one of those egotistical old rich pricks who constantly looking to leave a legacy.
Winning feck knows how many CLs wasn't enough for him, he got involved in this thinking he'd be remembered fondly for reshaping the entire game.
To be fair, I would only praise Dortmund as they would have a reason to jump on (again, it depends if they had a chance because of their laws). Bayern does not need it, they have a total monopoly in Germany, PSG also, as they are one of the reasons we have some of the biggest problems in football. I used to live in Germany and no one can tell me that the situation in German football is good. The only team who is slowly challenging Bayern (very slowly) is a team owned by a billionare (who does run it well, but it helps that the team is located in Germany).They are probably the worse. The rats are the first to jump the boat. The only ones to be praised are the ones that didnt go with this abomination from the start: bayern, dortmund, PSG and others that were proposed.
Chelsea and city wanted in as the ones that remained longer in bur shit their pants the first.
In all seriousness it is the owners that want punishing. Why should Ole and the lads suffer for their cloak and dagger shite?Yeah alright.
TruthSo..
Barca get 220m for Neymar, waste 280m on Coutinho and Dembele, then raise a loan to sign a player whose position is already occupied by the best player in the world for 120m. Madrid rebuilds its stadium for almost 800m then wastes 140m on a player with one year left on his contract. Juve signs a 33 year old for 100m and probably pays him around 50m per season. T Luckily there's Perez to identify the root of all these problems: The CL simply isn't profitable enoug!
I said in some form didn't I. Maybe the owners should pay a fine.In all seriousness it is the owners that want punishing. Why should Ole and the lads suffer for their cloak and dagger shite?
Come on. The last CLs went to:So, it seems like people decided that proxy battles between Russia, Qatar, China and Saudi Arabia on the football pitch is better than having an ESL. That's fine by me, but I hope people realize what they're rallying against.
I for one am not happy about United, Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming irrelevant clubs because they can't really compete against nation state levels of wealth and excess. Know that financial fair play is well and truly dead because of what has transpired over the past year or two. A billion for Qatar is nothing - a rounding error in their oil revenues. A billion for Barcelona is the difference between bankruptcy and survival as a football club.
If anything, I'd welcome our Saudi overlords if they chose to take over United. I hope you do too, otherwise what awaits is just a slow fade to obscurity.
FFP was supposed to curb it but UEFA fecked that up. Now who knows what the answer is the SL obviously wasn't. And with FFP gone I expect we'll have more Oil states buying clubs in the near future.Or maybe you could simply decide to do something against ownership like this and stop inflating prices for everyone, how about that?
Not to mention that the ESL was never supposed to stop the dirty money, it would have only exaggerated the problem.
I don't believe that's the case here. We speak about the biggest bank in United States being behind this. I fear there are lots of things going on behind the scenes that explain much of what we are seeing here.Football people are often amateurish despite the size of their business. At the end of the day, they are just a massive size SME. It's very possible they were not that good.
No power isn't quite accurate. Swansea have a supporters trust and it does allow for a say in matters, as well as improving accountability and transparency. It can still be circumnavigated but it's a lot better than nothing.So a fan trust can be set up and the trust can buy the shares but with 20% have no power. These people are not wet behind the ears and will ensure they will have control.
I think people were entitled to wait for more information. I also think some would still be onboard with the ESL proposal and that is their right, different supporters will have varying desires and ideas of how football should be played. I'm very grateful to the supporters who opposed the plans and made their voices heard though, as without the public backlash there is no doubt it would have gone ahead. Even more so to supporters of the ESL clubs who spoke out in opposition.Waiting to know the full details is not fence sitting - it's not diving in without having all the facts. The amount of tripe spouted by the "against" was unbelievable
Dude slept early. Woke up just now to this good news. I never advocated for ESL and voted no.@pratyush_utd gone a bit quiet. It was definitely just PR guff about withdrawing, he was categoric!
Looks kind of photo shopped, real? Hope so because I want to send around.
2017 in NYC, what a bunch of cnuts.
I imagine he means taking current trends into consideration. It's only a matter of time before City or PSG win it. City's spending seems to have made them a better run club than United at this point. I'm sure that's also down to actually making intelligent decisions, but I am pretty sure the final resistance of the old guard clubs is crumbling.Come on. The last CLs went to:
Bayern
Liverpool
Madrid
Madrid
Madrid
Barcelona
Madrid
Bayern
Chelsea
Barcelona
Inter
Barcelona
United
That's one (!) oil club in the conversation. Barca, Madrid and co. have gotten themselves into these situations. Barca didn't need to spend half a billion on players they didn't need and had no place for in the team, especially not if it required raising a loan.
Looks kind of photo shopped, real? Hope so because I want to send around.
Thanks mateYeah real, if you Google "John W Henry Gazidis Glazer Woodward restaurant" you'll find numerous newspaper articles about it from the time
Didn't United officially pull out before Chelsea did?Yes Bayern and PSG do deserve praise. But I still applaud Chelsea and City for making this fall apart.
Most of the first hits are from the likes of the DaiyMail, Daily Star, and The Sun but I managed to find this long read from The Guardian, which confirms the dinner occurred. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jan/17/how-a-deluge-of-money-nearly-broke-the-premier-leagueYeah real, if you Google "John W Henry Gazidis Glazer Woodward restaurant" you'll find numerous newspaper articles about it from the time
No, it was City and Chelsea.Didn't United officially pull out before Chelsea did?
Do you?So, it seems like people decided that proxy battles between Russia, Qatar, China and Saudi Arabia on the football pitch is better than having an ESL. That's fine by me, but I hope people realize what they're rallying against.
Real Madrid recently won three CL's in a row and Liverpool and Bayern won the next two.I for one am not happy about United, Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming irrelevant clubs because they can't really compete against nation state levels of wealth and excess.
That is the fault of how poorly run Barcelona is.Know that financial fair play is well and truly dead because of what has transpired over the past year or two. A billion for Qatar is nothing - a rounding error in their oil revenues. A billion for Barcelona is the difference between bankruptcy and survival as a football club.
A slow fade into obscurity? We are something like the 4th richest club in the world and remain one of the biggest clubs in the world. The PL recently got one of the biggest ever TV deals.If anything, I'd welcome our Saudi overlords if they chose to take over United. I hope you do too, otherwise what awaits is just a slow fade to obscurity.
I feel like you've really managed to capture the spirit of today's events there.If anything, I'd welcome our Saudi overlords if they chose to take over United. I hope you do too, otherwise what awaits is just a slow fade to obscurity.
I'm confused here then, Chelsea only made their official statement on their website less than an hour ago, United before 11pm.No, it was City and Chelsea.
No? PSG deserve no praise. They only didn’t support it because their owners have an expensive but lucrative contract with UEFA for the Champions League broadcast rights until 2024 and they need to stay on FIFA’s good side after all the World Cup shenanigans.Yes Bayern and PSG do deserve praise. But I still applaud Chelsea and City for making this fall apart.
Manchester City were the first club to pull out after Chelsea had signalled their intent to do so by preparing documentation to withdraw.I'm confused here then, Chelsea only made their official statement on their website less than an hour ago, United before 11pm.
Did Chelsea announce it somewhere else before then?
I have seen that JPM has been embarrassed so I think everything is possible. Let's see. But I think Real and Juventus have played and failed.I don't believe that's the case here. We speak about the biggest bank in United States being behind this. I fear there are lots of things going on behind the scenes that explain much of what we are seeing here.
I think it was just “sources” confirming they were first then the dominoes fell.I'm confused here then, Chelsea only made their official statement on their website less than an hour ago, United before 11pm.
Did Chelsea announce it somewhere else before then?
Go support a plastic club and support evil regimes elsewhere.So, it seems like people decided that proxy battles between Russia, Qatar, China and Saudi Arabia on the football pitch is better than having an ESL. That's fine by me, but I hope people realize what they're rallying against.
I for one am not happy about United, Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming irrelevant clubs because they can't really compete against nation state levels of wealth and excess. Know that financial fair play is well and truly dead because of what has transpired over the past year or two. A billion for Qatar is nothing - a rounding error in their oil revenues. A billion for Barcelona is the difference between bankruptcy and survival as a football club.
If anything, I'd welcome our Saudi overlords if they chose to take over United. I hope you do too, otherwise what awaits is just a slow fade to obscurity.
Yes officially followed by United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs. It's just semantics I suppose.Manchester City were the first club to pull out after Chelsea had signalled their intent to do so by preparing documentation to withdraw.
Well yeah I seen that earlier but nothing official until the last hour.I think it was just “sources” confirming they were first then the dominoes fell.
I just don't see that. If anything, the past years have proven that those mega transfers for absurd sums are leading nowhere. Spread the risk more evenly, plan carefully and in advance, show interest in the right players in the right moments, emphasize sustainability and a long term vision, ideally by giving your club a recognizable playing style and identity.I imagine he means taking current trends into consideration. It's only a matter of time before City or PSG win it. City's spending seems to have made them a better run club than United at this point. I'm sure that's also down to actually making intelligent decisions, but I am pretty sure the final resistance of the old guard clubs is crumbling.
Obscurity how?So, it seems like people decided that proxy battles between Russia, Qatar, China and Saudi Arabia on the football pitch is better than having an ESL. That's fine by me, but I hope people realize what they're rallying against.
I for one am not happy about United, Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming irrelevant clubs because they can't really compete against nation state levels of wealth and excess. Know that financial fair play is well and truly dead because of what has transpired over the past year or two. A billion for Qatar is nothing - a rounding error in their oil revenues. A billion for Barcelona is the difference between bankruptcy and survival as a football club.
If anything, I'd welcome our Saudi overlords if they chose to take over United. I hope you do too, otherwise what awaits is just a slow fade to obscurity.
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