European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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I dunno. They tried to pull the same shit as everyone else.

I feel like the clubs that jumped from the doomed project earliest are just trying to earn a bit of good will from doing so. They're as complicit in this whole disaster as everyone else.
They are yes. But they are also the ones that made this fall apart.
 
oh yeah, feck the Spanish courts.
I mean, cmon, how did they side with Perez? I sense something's rotten in Madrid.
And it's not Juan Carlos, cos he fcuked off to the ME.
 


Perez isn't giving up! :lol:

I seriously don't know what else they can do to make this a reality.


Surely he must understand that given the events of the past 48 hours, no English club with any sense will ever go anywhere near something like that again?
 


Perez isn't giving up! :lol:

I seriously don't know what else they can do to make this a reality.



So..

Barca get 220m for Neymar, waste 280m on Coutinho and Dembele, then raise a loan to sign a player whose position is already occupied by the best player in the world for 120m. Madrid rebuilds its stadium for almost 800m then wastes 140m on a player with one year left on his contract. Juve signs a 33 year old for 100m and probably pays him around 50m per season. T Luckily there's Perez to identify the root of all these problems: The CL simply isn't profitable enoug!
 
So..

Barca get 220m for Neymar, waste 280m on Coutinho and Dembele, then raise a loan to sign a player whose position is already occupied by the best player in the world for 120m. Madrid rebuilds its stadium for almost 800m then wastes 140m on a player with one year left on his contract. Juve signs a 33 year old for 100m and probably pays him around 50m per season. T Luckily there's Perez to identify the root of all these problems: The CL simply isn't profitable enoug!

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Big respect for Chelsea and City starting this domino effect. We were never going to withdraw otherwise

They are probably the worse. The rats are the first to jump the boat. The only ones to be praised are the ones that didnt go with this abomination from the start: bayern, dortmund, PSG and others that were proposed.

Chelsea and city wanted in as the ones that remained longer in bur shit their pants the first.
 
I’m proud of every one of you here and all clubs supporters across the country.

Today we are all United.

To be fair all I did was shitpost
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So..

Barca get 220m for Neymar, waste 280m on Coutinho and Dembele, then raise a loan to sign a player whose position is already occupied by the best player in the world for 120m. Madrid rebuilds its stadium for almost 800m then wastes 140m on a player with one year left on his contract. Juve signs a 33 year old for 100m and probably pays him around 50m per season. T Luckily there's Perez to identify the root of all these problems: The CL simply isn't profitable enoug!

Beyond stupid. As rummeneige said, costs are the problem, not the revenue
 
They are probably the worse. The rats are the first to jump the boat. The only ones to be praised are the ones that didnt go with this abomination from the start: bayern, dortmund, PSG and others that were proposed.

Chelsea and city wanted in as the ones that remained longer in bur shit their pants the first.
Yes Bayern and PSG do deserve praise. But I still applaud Chelsea and City for making this fall apart.
 


Perez isn't giving up! :lol:

I seriously don't know what else they can do to make this a reality.

Perez is one of those egotistical old rich pricks who constantly looking to leave a legacy.

Winning feck knows how many CLs wasn't enough for him, he got involved in this thinking he'd be remembered fondly for reshaping the entire game.
 
So proud of you guys. You did it! :D

Never a doubt in my mind!
 
Lets no go over board. La liga is far from boring
Perez is one of those egotistical old rich pricks who constantly looking to leave a legacy.

Winning feck knows how many CLs wasn't enough for him, he got involved in this thinking he'd be remembered fondly for reshaping the entire game.

I hope this starts a war between UEFA and Spanish teams. God knows how many times these two teams have been helped by the refs in the champions league.

Chelsea vs Madrid is going to be exciting.
 
They are probably the worse. The rats are the first to jump the boat. The only ones to be praised are the ones that didnt go with this abomination from the start: bayern, dortmund, PSG and others that were proposed.

Chelsea and city wanted in as the ones that remained longer in bur shit their pants the first.

To be fair, I would only praise Dortmund as they would have a reason to jump on (again, it depends if they had a chance because of their laws). Bayern does not need it, they have a total monopoly in Germany, PSG also, as they are one of the reasons we have some of the biggest problems in football. I used to live in Germany and no one can tell me that the situation in German football is good. The only team who is slowly challenging Bayern (very slowly) is a team owned by a billionare (who does run it well, but it helps that the team is located in Germany).
 
So..

Barca get 220m for Neymar, waste 280m on Coutinho and Dembele, then raise a loan to sign a player whose position is already occupied by the best player in the world for 120m. Madrid rebuilds its stadium for almost 800m then wastes 140m on a player with one year left on his contract. Juve signs a 33 year old for 100m and probably pays him around 50m per season. T Luckily there's Perez to identify the root of all these problems: The CL simply isn't profitable enoug!

Truth
 
So, it seems like people decided that proxy battles between Russia, Qatar, China and Saudi Arabia on the football pitch is better than having an ESL. That's fine by me, but I hope people realize what they're rallying against.

I for one am not happy about United, Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming irrelevant clubs because they can't really compete against nation state levels of wealth and excess. Know that financial fair play is well and truly dead because of what has transpired over the past year or two. A billion for Qatar is nothing - a rounding error in their oil revenues. A billion for Barcelona is the difference between bankruptcy and survival as a football club.

If anything, I'd welcome our Saudi overlords if they chose to take over United. I hope you do too, otherwise what awaits is just a slow fade to obscurity.

Come on. The last CLs went to:

Bayern
Liverpool
Madrid
Madrid
Madrid
Barcelona
Madrid
Bayern
Chelsea
Barcelona
Inter
Barcelona
United

That's one (!) oil club in the conversation. Barca, Madrid and co. have gotten themselves into these situations. Barca didn't need to spend half a billion on players they didn't need and had no place for in the team, especially not if it required raising a loan.
 
Or maybe you could simply decide to do something against ownership like this and stop inflating prices for everyone, how about that?
Not to mention that the ESL was never supposed to stop the dirty money, it would have only exaggerated the problem.

FFP was supposed to curb it but UEFA fecked that up. Now who knows what the answer is the SL obviously wasn't. And with FFP gone I expect we'll have more Oil states buying clubs in the near future.
 
Football people are often amateurish despite the size of their business. At the end of the day, they are just a massive size SME. It's very possible they were not that good.

I don't believe that's the case here. We speak about the biggest bank in United States being behind this. I fear there are lots of things going on behind the scenes that explain much of what we are seeing here.
 
So a fan trust can be set up and the trust can buy the shares but with 20% have no power. These people are not wet behind the ears and will ensure they will have control.

No power isn't quite accurate. Swansea have a supporters trust and it does allow for a say in matters, as well as improving accountability and transparency. It can still be circumnavigated but it's a lot better than nothing.

Waiting to know the full details is not fence sitting - it's not diving in without having all the facts. The amount of tripe spouted by the "against" was unbelievable

I think people were entitled to wait for more information. I also think some would still be onboard with the ESL proposal and that is their right, different supporters will have varying desires and ideas of how football should be played. I'm very grateful to the supporters who opposed the plans and made their voices heard though, as without the public backlash there is no doubt it would have gone ahead. Even more so to supporters of the ESL clubs who spoke out in opposition.
 
@pratyush_utd gone a bit quiet. It was definitely just PR guff about withdrawing, he was categoric!
Dude slept early. Woke up just now to this good news. I never advocated for ESL and voted no.

I thought these clubs would have prepared for eventual onslaught but you can hardly blame me for their incompetence. What was the point of this when you pull out in 3 days?
 
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Come on. The last CLs went to:

Bayern
Liverpool
Madrid
Madrid
Madrid
Barcelona
Madrid
Bayern
Chelsea
Barcelona
Inter
Barcelona
United

That's one (!) oil club in the conversation. Barca, Madrid and co. have gotten themselves into these situations. Barca didn't need to spend half a billion on players they didn't need and had no place for in the team, especially not if it required raising a loan.

I imagine he means taking current trends into consideration. It's only a matter of time before City or PSG win it. City's spending seems to have made them a better run club than United at this point. I'm sure that's also down to actually making intelligent decisions, but I am pretty sure the final resistance of the old guard clubs is crumbling.