George Floyd | Chauvin guilty on all counts | Sentenced to 22.5 years

State charges, so no pardon :D
best hope none of these run for govenor then?
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yeah, so that’s not true. In just the last week @Skizzo did the opposite in discussions about the Wright and Toledo shootings.
You’ve wholly misunderstood what is clearly written.

I’ll be clearer as you’re hard of reading. Certain forum members are an ever present on police matters but silent on other issues.

Hence why I stay on the boundaries in here since last year, a bunch of people that read what they want but not what’s written. You’ve reiterated my point if anything.
 
You’ve wholly misunderstood what is clearly written.

I’ll be clearer as you’re hard of reading. Certain forum members are an ever present on police matters but silent on other issues.

Hence why I stay on the boundaries in here since last year, a bunch of people that read what they want but not what’s written. You’ve reiterated my point if anything.

You seem to be a very pleasant fellow/lady.

I have seen our resident LEO’s in multiple other threads, in the general and football sides. I doubt that actually matters to you, but a quick search would show that.

this and the police thread have evolved into semi civil places these days. Maybe the other side of the boundary was a good fit for you.
 
I can't see how he could survive in prison.

He will try to end his own life. 100%

I'm sure some white supremacist gang like the Aryan Brotherhood will be more than happy to adopt him.
 
He's obviously not going to be in general population with the majority of the inmates. It will be PC for his entire time there.
 
15 y/o AA female shot & killed by Columbus, OH police within an hour of the verdict being read.

Seems like normal service has resumed.

She was in the process of attempting to stab another AA female and the police were called because she was aiming to stab said AA female
 
Not much discussion about the chances of an appeal considering the damn judge in this case said in court that it was pretty much a slamdunk.
 
Surely it was a mistake from the defense for him not to testify? When you're dealing with a jury who are untrained in law, you'd want to make them feel sorry for you in the hope that they see you as a good person and make a verdict on a more emotional response. Could have swayed some heads if he came across well to the jurors? Alternatively he could have implicated himself further of course.

Goes without saying I'm glad he was guilty on all accounts but can't see how testifying would have harmed his position

Because the prosecution would of been drilling questions through every part of that 9 minute video. He initially strangled GF in the car too, so I imagine they ask him about that. It would be very hard to not look bad and not victim blame
 
Insulting another member
You seem to be a very pleasant fellow/lady.
I can assure you I am not, oh sorry that was an attempt at sarcasm. Constructive indeed.
I have seen our resident LEO’s in multiple other threads, in the general and football sides. I doubt that actually matters to you, but a quick search would show that.
Oh undoubtedly they partake in other aspects of the forum, didn’t say they didn’t. What I did allude to, is that it’s telling what they don’t get motivated to become involved in but I doubt that actually matters to you as your initial response shows you struggle to comprehend simple sentences.
this and the police thread have evolved into semi civil places these days. Maybe the other side of the boundary was a good fit for you.
Speaking of wilful ignorance. . .

Just move on & learn not only to read but to understand before interjecting.

These threads remain a sh*t show & a rather enlightening window into the biases that exist within this fanbase.
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.

I believe former LEOs are not inserted into the regular population as they'd be targeted. Perhaps that depends on how the prison system views what crimes these convicted LEOs committed and/or which prison guards are bought off inside.
 
Reaction from the deplorables?

I post on a few other forums which I suspect to have many. They've blamed the drugs in his system and his possible heart condition for likely causes of his death. And blamed him for not complying, being on drugs and being a criminal.
 
I doubt any of this bunch would ever step foot in Minnesota for more than a day or two, and that's even if you offered Don Jr a kilo.

I don't know. If you told Eric that daddy had buried his love for him in MN you know he would be there with a shovel for years trying to dig it up.
 
She already tried to stab a girl on the ground (before another guy ran up and kicked her in the head) and was actively trying to stab a girl and had her pinned against a car. What middle ground would you suggest?

I only watched the video a couple of times but I didn't hear any verbal engagement or identification of themselves as a police officer. Usually there is at least a command to drop it, freeze etc. This one seems to have just drawn and shot. The fact that there already appeared to be two other officers on scene just adds to our confusion. What were they doing?
 
I believe former LEOs are not inserted into the regular population as they'd be targeted. Perhaps that depends on how the prison system views what crimes these convicted LEOs committed and/or which prison guards are bought off inside.

Targeted or not being in solitary for 25 years is torture.

I get it it's for their own safety. But PC isnt something you can undo. Once you're in Protective custody you're there to stay.
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.
Cops almost always get away with killing people, I can't think of another time a cop was convinced like this. Maybe there are a few but ask an American and they expect cops to get off 999/1000 times. I'm not sure he won't win an appeal.
 
Cops almost always get away with killing people, I can't think of another time a cop was convinced like this. Maybe there are a few but ask an American and they expect cops to get off 999/1000 times. I'm not sure he won't win an appeal.

Amber Guger (sp??) and the guy who killed the Australian lady are 2 that come to mind. It is pretty rare though.
 
That cop who got jail for shooting Walter Scott in the back.

Damnit, how did I forget that one! That one made me sick, both the shooting itself and the fact his state trial ended in a hung jury. Guaranteed that is what Chauvin's lawyer was aiming for.
 
Well, the Republicans have all taken their marching orders from grand wizard Carlson

 
Cops almost always get away with killing people, I can't think of another time a cop was convinced like this. Maybe there are a few but ask an American and they expect cops to get off 999/1000 times. I'm not sure he won't win an appeal.

The one who killed Justine Damond too.

I think a big help would be having a separate agency other than the regular DA do the prosecuting etc . There’s often a reluctance of the DA to push too hard because of their close relationship to the departments and relying on them daily for the cases. Obviously on scene witnesses/officers etc would still need to cooperate fully as well.
 
Obviously the guy never stood a chance of a fair trial, no matter what he did. He was doing his job after all, very poorly, but there was no way he would ever get anything other than a guilty verdict in court due to external pressure. His life is ruined and then some, imagine getting into prison where roughly 35% of prisoners are black. Absolutely not defending the man for what happened, please don’t take it that way, but yeah... his life took a wrong turn that day.
Oh boy.
 
Really fecked up. A policeman kills someone on camera and the right can't accept it for what it is.
 
The police subreddits on Reddit are juicy right now. Also interesting how the several masstaggers have a lot of them as regulars in several unsavory places. Rage Against the Machine etc.
 
The one who killed Justine Damond too.

I think a big help would be having a separate agency other than the regular DA do the prosecuting etc . There’s often a reluctance of the DA to push too hard because of their close relationship to the departments and relying on them daily for the cases. Obviously on scene witnesses/officers etc would still need to cooperate fully as well.
Yes I think that's a crucial ideas, but the Police Unions will fight tooth and nail against it. Might need a Federal regulation on that because republican states would strongly resist it I expect.
 
The one who killed Justine Damond too.

I think a big help would be having a separate agency other than the regular DA do the prosecuting etc . There’s often a reluctance of the DA to push too hard because of their close relationship to the departments and relying on them daily for the cases. Obviously on scene witnesses/officers etc would still need to cooperate fully as well.
Has there ever been a push for an independent agency like this? Who would appoint them?
 
Has there ever been a push for an independent agency like this? Who would appoint them?

I’m honestly not sure. I’d imagine it would have to be appointed from someone higher up, and with no “skin in the game” in seeing outcomes that would favour something specific. Your guess is probably as good as mine though.
 
I’m honestly not sure. I’d imagine it would have to be appointed from someone higher up, and with no “skin in the game” in seeing outcomes that would favour something specific. Your guess is probably as good as mine though.
Yeah. It would have to be appointments from almost outside the justice community.

That would bring up its own can of worms.

But, the idea has a ton of merit.
 
Probably better to just try cop cases in different jurisdictions. Maybe even out of state.
Another good idea.

Lickers would argue that a foreign jury wouldn’t understand the pulse of the community in which the event happened, though.