Should it be the “big 7” now?

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Leicester are about to finish above Arsenal & Spurs for the 2nd successive season. They probably have a stronger squad then both, they have won a more recent PL title then 3 of the “big 6” and overall look like they have solidified themselves as perennial CL qualification contenders.

It’s only fair right?
 

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For sure. They deserve to be there more than Arsenal or Spurs.
 

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Leicester are about to finish above Arsenal & Spurs for the 2nd successive season. They probably have a stronger squad then both, they have won a more recent PL title then 3 of the “big 6” and overall look like they have solidified themselves as perennial CL qualification contenders.

It’s only fair right?
Big 5.
 

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No , we not a English giant, also I prefer we are considered underdogs, keep it as the big 6. :)

It really should probably be big 5, not sure why Spurs are in there.
 

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How is it a big six anyway? What have Tottenham ever done? They won a league cup years ago. Leicester won two of those in the 90s. They've recently won the PL and now the fa cup. Tottenham are a complete bottle job of a club.
 

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No, they are still not a “big” club.
It's tough to define big now.

I would be more wary of them than Arsenal or Tottenham for example, and yet both are classified as big clubs. Leicester have also won a PL and FA Cup since their takeover and they consistently make astute transfers to improve and keep with the top sides.
 

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How is it a big six anyway? What have Tottenham ever done? They won a league cup years ago. Leicester won two of those in the 90s. They've recently won the PL and now the fa cup. Tottenham are a complete bottle job of a club.
Yep. Absolute nothing club to be honest.
 

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Leicester are about to finish above Arsenal & Spurs for the 2nd successive season. They probably have a stronger squad then both, they have won a more recent PL title then 3 of the “big 6” and overall look like they have solidified themselves as perennial CL qualification contenders.

It’s only fair right?

Perennial my arse. They haven't qualified for the CL since they won the League. :lol:
 

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I never did understand why Spurs were considered part of the big six. They don’t win anything, or used to win anything in the past. They don’t have a massive global fanbase. The only thing they had were their league finishes, but even that is no longer guaranteed.

As far as I can see, Leicester have more of a claim to being one of the top six clubs in England than Spurs.
 

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Maybe an averagely-sized 10 is the future?

Surely the big thing has to end somewhere near the middle of the table?
 

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Since the 7 sisters is taken, what should we call ourselves?
 

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Maybe an averagely-sized 10 is the future?

Surely the big thing has to end somewhere near the middle of the table?
The Big Half has a nice ring to it.
 

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No , we not a English giant, also I prefer we are considered underdogs, keep it as the big 6. :)

It really should probably be big 5, not sure why Spurs are in there.
It should also be remembered that you do have billionaire backers.
Not quite as plucky an underdog as some are painting the narrative.
 

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It's tough to define big now.

I would be more wary of them than Arsenal or Tottenham for example, and yet both are classified as big clubs. Leicester have also won a PL and FA Cup since their takeover and they consistently make astute transfers to improve and keep with the top sides.
I think Leicester have a better team than Spurs or Arsenal, but they are still not a bigger club.

It’s a difficult one to explain. As an example, when I told people that we had lost to Leicester in the cup, they laughed at me. When I said we were playing Spurs / Arsenal, they said “that’s a tough match”. (I live in Spain)
 

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No. The big 6 is ultimately ranked by earnings and Leicester are not there yet. Spurs win nothing, but they make a lot of cash.
 

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And got done for overspending whilst coming up the leagues.
There were loads of people complaining about not being able to compete financially with Leicester in the championship the year they were promoted. Can't remember how.much they spent and on who though.
 

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It should also be remembered that you do have billionaire backers.
Not quite as plucky an underdog as some are painting the narrative.
Exactly.

I've seen a few Leicester fans claiming it's about community and a triumph for clubs for whom it's not about money etc etc

They are were they are because of billionaire owners.
 

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No, they are still not a “big” club.
I think Leicester have a better team than Spurs or Arsenal, but they are still not a bigger club.

It’s a difficult one to explain. As an example, when I told people that we had lost to Leicester in the cup, they laughed at me. When I said we were playing Spurs / Arsenal, they said “that’s a tough match”. (I live in Spain)
No. The big 6 is ultimately ranked by earnings and Leicester are not there yet. Spurs win nothing, but they make a lot of cash.
The big 6 had nothing to do with the size of the club, amount of money they make or size of fanbase. It was more about 6 clubs who could realistically challenge for the champions league spots and typically those clubs dominated the champions league qualification for the better part of a decade.
 

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The big 6 had nothing to do with the size of the club, amount of money they make or size of fanbase. It was more about 6 clubs who could realistically challenge for the champions league spots and typically those clubs dominated the champions league qualification for the better part of a decade.
If a club like Everton had won the league and cup instead of Leicester, 6 would now be 7.
 

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What have Arsenal done recently to call them big?
 

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The big 6 had nothing to do with the size of the club, amount of money they make or size of fanbase. It was more about 6 clubs who could realistically challenge for the champions league spots and typically those clubs dominated the champions league qualification for the better part of a decade.
it's a little bit about the size of the club too

it's a kind of merge between size and current team, but mostly current team

otherwise Leicester would be considered in it already, which they are not (until maybe today)
 

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Exactly.

I've seen a few Leicester fans claiming it's about community and a triumph for clubs for whom it's not about money etc etc

They are were they are because of billionaire owners.
Not seen anyone say our owners have had nothing to do with it.

Now we were not underdogs in the Championship which is a fair point but the topic is about the big ? in the EPL not the Championship.

What you guys want to call us is up to you. But the media wont be calling us big 7. To me we are a club similar sized to most lower league EPL clubs, and I am happy to enjoy moments like the FA cup win as these days are rare for us and must be treasured.
 

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City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea - it’s starting to feel like a list of clubs that outspend us and I’d have to include Leicester in that. It’s a shame that football has gone this way but everything seems to be determined by money spent now.

That being said money spent shouldn’t be the only determining factor in whether a club is big or not so Spurs should be forgotten and maybe even Chelsea relative to spend.
 

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Not seen anyone say our owners have had nothing to do with it.

Now we were not underdogs in the Championship which is a fair point but the topic is about the big ? in the EPL not the Championship.

What you guys want to call us is up to you. But the media wont be calling us big 7. To me we are a club similar sized to most lower league EPL clubs, and I am happy to enjoy moments like the FA cup win as these days are rare for us and must be treasured.
Look I've no issue at all with Leicester or how they are doing things but I was talking about people claiming the moral high ground and how this was nothing to do with money or wealth and a victory for real football.

That's clearly bollox but fair play to Leicester. Well deserved win today.
 

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Spurs and Arsenal aren't part of any big anything. Just keep it to "top..." to avoid seeking stupid?

Leicester are definitely now among England's too clubs. They've won more of note this past decade then Arsenal and Spurs.
 

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The big 6 had nothing to do with the size of the club, amount of money they make or size of fanbase. It was more about 6 clubs who could realistically challenge for the champions league spots and typically those clubs dominated the champions league qualification for the better part of a decade.
Yes but it's outdated. Arsenal can only challenge for Lego head affections and Spurs are neither here nor there. Neither are perennial top 4 sides now. Leicester have nearly made it now 2 years now. Much more pedigree
 

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Yes but it's outdated. Arsenal can only challenge for Lego head affections and Spurs are neither here nor there. Neither are perennial top 4 sides now. Leicester have nearly made it now 2 years now. Much more pedigree
Leicester finished 9th with 52 points just 2 years ago ( and 9th the season before that with 47) and nobody really made a big deal about it - that's why they aren't really considered a big club because they are not expected to consistently perform although I agree that's changing. Will be interested to see how they are judged next year.
 

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Leicester finished 9th with 52 points just 2 years ago ( and 9th the season before that with 47) and nobody really made a big deal about it - that's why they aren't really considered a big club because they are not expected to consistently perform although I agree that's changing. Will be interested to see how they are judged next year.
Yes but they are consistently doing it now. On the hand are Arsenal are doing feck all. They've won a league title, league cup, Fa cup and twice come evrh close to CL footy. Arsenal are in 8th or something equally embarrassing

I think the PL is the only one where there is still a focus on a big something rather than the best teans that year.
 

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Yes but they are consistently doing it now. On the hand are Arsenal are doing feck all. They've won a league title, league cup, Fa cup and twice come evrh close to CL footy. Arsenal are in 8th or something equally embarrassing

I think the PL is the only one where there is still a focus on a big something rather than the best teans that year.
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Sorry but there should never even been a big 6 or 7. It’s always been about the two. Those are Liverpool and united. Arsenal and Chelsea got there for a long long time and it was the big four. If anything that’s what it should stay at. Chelsea comes in and out. Arsenal dropped off but with there success over the years they are in. Liverpool and united are always in there no matter their current status due to being the two most proper successful clubs in league history. City for some reason is just not a traditional powerhouse. Maybe in another ten years. I just don’t trust City not to implode at some point into a mid table team.
 

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Think people are getting the idea of top 6/7 wrong. It's not based on footballing merit anymore. It's now based on commercial size.

Tottenham, despite winning feck all now have a higher commercial revenue than Arsenal I believe. It doesn't surprise me, their influence in Asia is massive, bigger than all maybe apart from United (Madrid/Barca) based on my experience being many years out there. You can thank Son for that.