I suggested on here that we should sign him after that debut season but was shouted down
Would you sign Harry Kane if it meant we didn't sign anyone else?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Get Son and Alli to throw in some money too to help a mate and let's get the Sancho party started!!
I was of the same opinion, Sparky. Well worth the risk at the time.
No. Great player but too many other positions which need looking at first. This saga has come a year too soon for us.
Aging? That's a bit harsh mate. 27 and just hitting 28 isn't old for a striker. The exception would be Rooney, who played league footie from being a kid and was worn out by his late 20's, but he could still put in a good shift until much older.
For the worth of an actual 'ageing player' you should look at Cavani, for instance. He's 34, over 6 years older than Kane, but that doesn't stop him scoring does it? Ok so he can't play twice a week every week but there's no doubting his worth to Utd and even if he couldn't play full games, he'd still be awesome as an impact substitute.
Ibrahimovic is another good example, perhaps the exception at the other end of the scale from Rooney - he's 39, 12 years older than Kane, and has just come back out of international retirement!
Dodgy ankles / injury prone?
I had the notion that he was terribly injury prone / had dodgy ankles too. But, surprisingly, the stats say that's not right- you should check them out because they show that he's not that often injured, and that's quite impressive for a bloke who's the mainstay of a team, and who never gets rested.
Specifically regards his ankles being dodgy, he missed 14 games in the 16/17 season with ankle injury, 2 games in the 17/18 season with ankle injury, had no ankle injury in the 18/19 season, no ankle injury in the 19/20 season and then missed 4 games with ankle injury in the 20/21 season.
So, that's 20 games missed due to ankle injury in 5 seasons, and his ankles are not in decline because, 16 of those missed games were in the first 2 of those 5 seasons and he's only missed 4 games due to ankle injury in the last 3 seasons.
I also think his injury record is exacerbated by him playing for a club like spurs, where he's the player they all depend on (the Harry Kane team) so he gets played in every game possible, regardless of fatigue or minor niggles.
I think you'll agree that he'll get less injuries if he plays at a proper big club like Utd or wherever, because with responsible management and a big high quality squad to lean on, he'll get rested when he needs it and that reduces the incidence of injuries and extends the players effective career.
I think whoever gets Kane will get an absolute top level performance out of him for 5 years, possibly more, and two or 3 years beyond that playing a reduced number of games.
I'm actually not that keen on him (because I think he's a bit of a nob), but I don't doubt that he'd improve the performance of any club he went to.
Would you sign Harry Kane if it meant we didn't sign anyone else?
No
No
It would be the most United thing to do would be blow I get our whole budget on Kane when we have needed a RW for about 6-7 years now, A DM is essential and a CB. If we bought 7.5/10 players for them positions we would be way better off than signing Kane.
I wouldn’t turn him down he is world class and would make us much better but we have issues in other positions we need to fix
I wouldn’t turn him down he is world class and would make us much better but we have issues in other positions we need to fix
Me too. For me he is the type of player that you go for no matter what. Guaranteed top class, you don't get oportunity to get this type of player every summer, so I really hope we'll make a push.
Kane can fvck off
Fvck off to the plastics you cvnt.
The wages, non specified, will be over 8 million a week with all their oil fuelled, football ruining, shit.
Fvck off to the plastics you cvnt.
The wages, non specified, will be over 8 million a week with all their oil fuelled, football ruining, shit.
Irrelevant question as we won't be signing him
No
Haaland or
Sancho + CDM or CB
Haaland or
Sancho + CDM or CB
No. We aren’t yet in a position where we can have the luxury of adding one player at a time, especially one who is 28 and increasingly injury prone.
Exactly. How many title winning teams or CL winning teams have had a Harry Kane type striker in recent years? Bayern with Lewandowski only team that comes to mind.
This year’s CL finalist have both got there without relying on a number 9.
We talk about United making signings that fit the jigsaw, for the present and future. Looking at our squad, is it built for a Harry Kane, or is the way forward more a fluid front three? Considering we have Rashford, Greenwood, Martial, Amad, etc?
Completely different to when we signed RVP, at that time we had no creativity or flair and not much goal threat so player like RVP would improve not hinder those around him.
No chance.
Far too many holes need filling first ,would I like him at utd?Absolutely but we have far bigger priorities.
Far too many holes need filling first ,would I like him at utd?Absolutely but we have far bigger priorities.
If we are going to pay a crazy fee for a player, then it needs to be Haaland or Sancho - crazy fee but we will get lots of seasons from them, or, a high fee if they leave.
Why do people keep talking about getting Haaland next summer? He had the opportunity to sign for us before going to Dortmund and he rejected us.
He will be off to Spain, 100%.
if we can get Kane this summer, then it’s a no brainer. He’s a world class striker that will score loads of goals and win us shit tons of games.
He will be off to Spain, 100%.
if we can get Kane this summer, then it’s a no brainer. He’s a world class striker that will score loads of goals and win us shit tons of games.
If Kane and we add either a truly top CDM or a CB, I'd go for it. But Kane and no one else...take a pass.
We have a real prospect at CF in Greenwood and Kane is at the right age now to hand the scepter to Greenwood in 2-3 seasons. And no, I don't see Kane being a world class CF 4, 5 or 6 seasons from now. He's at peak now and the downward slide begins soon him. Probably not a steep slide, as I believe wherever he goes his minutes will be managed, but his fitness record gives me no confidence that he'll be a 20+ goal machine for much longer. The addition of Kane brings us much closer to City, but without a Matic successor (I'm not panicking over our current options at CB) we're not going to get close enough to City to overtake them.
We have a real prospect at CF in Greenwood and Kane is at the right age now to hand the scepter to Greenwood in 2-3 seasons. And no, I don't see Kane being a world class CF 4, 5 or 6 seasons from now. He's at peak now and the downward slide begins soon him. Probably not a steep slide, as I believe wherever he goes his minutes will be managed, but his fitness record gives me no confidence that he'll be a 20+ goal machine for much longer. The addition of Kane brings us much closer to City, but without a Matic successor (I'm not panicking over our current options at CB) we're not going to get close enough to City to overtake them.
What do you mean? It's clearly the obvious solution.
Fine by me if it happens
If you are going to spend 150m, spend it on Haaland, or Mbappe. Unless Levy is willing to take Jones + Mata + Matic + Martial + Lingard + Peieria in a swap deal, which will take 6 months to negotiate and we will probably lose out because Levy wants an extra 100 pound.
Depends who we'd be missing out on
I'd rather "waste" £50m extra on Kane than spend £80m on Rice, put it that way.
I'd rather "waste" £50m extra on Kane than spend £80m on Rice, put it that way.
The question is a hypothetical one in which we can only afford around £100mm of spend. That means the alternatives are buy Sancho and a budget CB / CDM or don’t buy Sancho and Kane and buy a CB & a CDM (Rice - £60m).
If we buy Kane, we can continue to play Mason and Amad on right and Rashford / Martial / James on left so attack is in pretty good shape.
In MF - can we use more of DVB or Garner alongside Fred ? I still have some belief that DVB will play better this coming season.
In defense - can we loan a CB from somewhere or give a short term deal to Ramos ? I also rate Tuanzebe - hopefully he gets more minutes vs Bailly.
Overall - I prefer to buy Kane over the other two scenarios that would be possible in this hypothetical situation. He can create and score and will add more points over a season than Sancho or Rice.
If we buy Kane, we can continue to play Mason and Amad on right and Rashford / Martial / James on left so attack is in pretty good shape.
In MF - can we use more of DVB or Garner alongside Fred ? I still have some belief that DVB will play better this coming season.
In defense - can we loan a CB from somewhere or give a short term deal to Ramos ? I also rate Tuanzebe - hopefully he gets more minutes vs Bailly.
Overall - I prefer to buy Kane over the other two scenarios that would be possible in this hypothetical situation. He can create and score and will add more points over a season than Sancho or Rice.
Not sure if serious.
Yep, would have a bigger impact than anyone else we could sign this window.
We rave about Cavani, imagine if Kane was lining up for us every week.
We rave about Cavani, imagine if Kane was lining up for us every week.
Signing him could be like a RVP signing where he will get us the goals that were lacking season before to win us the title. However, it's a big if.
The team balance has a higher priority at right wing and at CB. I honestly believe that Cavani, Greenwood and Rashford will get us a good balance of goals next season but, that right wing needs sorting out. We also desperately need a stonger/faster to partner with Maguire, in which team can confidently play 10 yards up the pitch and not require Fred and McT in 80% of the games. With that you are talking about a team that should be getting 3 points against almost anyone.
Martial has had an awful season but, you take the onus off him to be the #9 and he can play LF or even second striker in a some games. It may be mean Bruno actually gets some games off or you can actually sub him off when he is having an off game.
Won't cry if he is only signing but, much rather get Sancho and a top CB as a priority after the extension of Cavani.
The team balance has a higher priority at right wing and at CB. I honestly believe that Cavani, Greenwood and Rashford will get us a good balance of goals next season but, that right wing needs sorting out. We also desperately need a stonger/faster to partner with Maguire, in which team can confidently play 10 yards up the pitch and not require Fred and McT in 80% of the games. With that you are talking about a team that should be getting 3 points against almost anyone.
Martial has had an awful season but, you take the onus off him to be the #9 and he can play LF or even second striker in a some games. It may be mean Bruno actually gets some games off or you can actually sub him off when he is having an off game.
Won't cry if he is only signing but, much rather get Sancho and a top CB as a priority after the extension of Cavani.
I remember people saying Kane was having a "Michu" season. Hindsight is a great thing indeed.
Nah
Sancho >
Sancho >
Erling Halaand. I believe that's why Ole's here, to bring him in. Going after Kane, eliminates the Haaland option and I think Haaland can have an impact like the young Ronaldo. If Fergie were still here, he would be all in on Halaand.
No. Would love to see him at United, but we need to invest in 2-3 areas. Sancho, a CB and CDM and bring in a striker next year, unless Mason can take make that spot his own.
I honestly think he wins us the title like rvp did in 2013 if he's the only one we signed and we lose nobody else (to agree with @Shimo )
Even with multiple injuries he gets you 25 Prem league goals. And he has added creation to that too which would be good for Rashford Cavani Bruno and even Pogba if they run beyond him.
I think he adds about 15 points to us (even with the imbalance we have but the added bonus is he won't be a city player either)
Even with multiple injuries he gets you 25 Prem league goals. And he has added creation to that too which would be good for Rashford Cavani Bruno and even Pogba if they run beyond him.
I think he adds about 15 points to us (even with the imbalance we have but the added bonus is he won't be a city player either)
Anyone thinking the Glazer/Woodward duo will pay over £100 million for anyone with the Covid-19 excuse is basically deluded. There may be a couple of signings to get to that amount, but extending Cavani basically puts that big splash signing aside.
Would be happy to see something out of the box, but ain’t gonna happen, lucky to get Sancho and a CB if honest
Would be happy to see something out of the box, but ain’t gonna happen, lucky to get Sancho and a CB if honest
Where do you have this idea that Grealish would only cost us 60m?
I wouldn't. I'd rather get a CB, defensive midfielder and right winger. Leave Cavani up top and maybe give Greenwood more exposure in the middle.
I bumped my post from 6 years ago yesterday but got a warning for bumping old posts for my troubles. Fair cop really.
Ideally we’d sign Sancho (80-90 mil), Rice & Varane (roughly 50 mil each)? Obviously we won’t, but considering that Kane would probably be worth at least 150 mil, we’re better off, really.
However good he is, I don’t think that he alone would be enough to match City (although even in an ideal scenario of 3 top signings City would still be the favorites for the title).
However good he is, I don’t think that he alone would be enough to match City (although even in an ideal scenario of 3 top signings City would still be the favorites for the title).
Damn you Ed Woodward
Sancho, Rice and Varane would be a very good transfer window for us. Agree with “Roughly £50m each for Varane and Rice”, but I think £80-90m for Sancho is a little bit to much. Expect him to be sold for £70-75m.
Let’s say:
In:
Sancho, Varane and Rice = £175m
Out:
Lingard, Pereira, Matic, Dalot = £50m
James and DDG = £35m
Are we able to spend £90m? I really hope so.
Yes, sort of. Given the superior competition and managers in the league, we are not challenging for the title under the current manager. He could have Barcelona 2008 and not win the league against City. That means we would have Kane and a new budget entering the next season, hopefully under and new and better manager. That’s when the fun potentially starts.
Depends on what would be our other targets. If other targets are quality first 11 players like Varane, Grealish, Brozovic and Sancho than of course no, but if other targets would be players who add only depth then give me only Kane. Better one Kane than 5 more players like James or ......better to stop here.
No there are far more pressing needs in the team.
holding midfield
right wing
centre half.
we have cavani Greenwood martial and Rashford as strikers. another striker is not an urgent need.
holding midfield
right wing
centre half.
we have cavani Greenwood martial and Rashford as strikers. another striker is not an urgent need.