You must know them very well if you're fully aware of their personal finances.Their debt? They don't have any
Joel Glazer sets fan forum date (4th June)
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First question should be - "why has it taken you so long?"
His answer "Hey guys, never mind that, I'm actually sat here with our newest recruit Jason Sancho, who I believe will be a great addition to the left attacker forward role"
I think it’s fair to assume we over negotiate and that is even less likely to get the price down in any given window. Given the amounts we will have saved on players after the marathon sagas - Sancho- 10/20 million?, Maguire- nothing pretty much, his price went up if anything, Bruno- about 5 million. For those figures wouldn’t we have just been better off to pay up and have a season extra from a great player and a much more stable club in general? If we’d got Sancho last summer we wouldn’t have to bow out of the race for Kane. Our bargaining tactics set us behind and slow the rebuild down to a walking pace and save us about the same amount of money we pay numerous deadwood players each year to not play for us
Your reply suggested they have personal responsibility for the clubs debt. Sorry if I read that wrong.
Can we watch it?
You must know that they are responsible for placing that debt on the club. Hence their debt.
Clearly, as it stands, the club are responsible for their debt, which is why I hope this subject is clearly talked about today.
"Mr Glazer, your ownership seems to have the popularity of a runaway freight train. Why are you so unpopular?"
It’s the deals there and then but it’s also a precedent for further negotiations. If we just payed a fixed price from the selling club the price would just move up and up. A player is only worth the amount the market wants to pay. Last year Dortmund stuck to their price as the incentive to sell was not there (don’t know why). This year they have huge losses, want to keep Haaland and also have a gentleman agreement with the player. He will be allowed to go and they will negotiate with us.
I just can’t believe people think it’s a smart idea to buy a player for a fixed sum. All big transfers are negotiated one way or another. Especially in the middle of a pandemic.
Anyone expecting anything with any substance - I've got a bridge to sell you.
Will be a load of guff to appease an increasingly angry and frustrated fan-base. All talk, no action as usual.
Will be a load of guff to appease an increasingly angry and frustrated fan-base. All talk, no action as usual.
American's don't generally do well buying bridges from the UK tbh.
'Soccer is nothing without the fans, and we will do our best to improve the roster.'
“Big day tomorrow”
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Well as long as your asking something, can I ask you to assuage my fears that he's contaminating the club in a matter that may one day render it unsustainable?
So it’s the 5th now?Big day tomorrow
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Cruise into town, assure the fans we "want what you want", that there are big plans "afoot" for both improving the....roster, and the infrastructure around the stadium/area etc.
Create some board where they can position a couple of mouthy anti Glazer types, who funnilly enough then become Glazer patsies.
And then we can enjoy a summer of long winded pursuits.
Let's go.
Create some board where they can position a couple of mouthy anti Glazer types, who funnilly enough then become Glazer patsies.
And then we can enjoy a summer of long winded pursuits.
Let's go.
Rumour is he said feck Redcafe.
I love soccerball as much as any spectator.
If you think this is a given, I'd perhaps manage your expectations a little pal.
"Bunch of internet fans who never go to games, yet think they're experts on everything"
will definitely not be a soundbite of the unoffical minutes.
For these sagas to regularly go on so long it feels to me like we must be going in quite a bit lower than market value and then very slowly eking our way back up to a more realistic valuation but by then it’s too late for the selling club to replace the outgoing player so we wait till next year…
I get what you’re saying, you’d be mad to go and just give Dortmund 120 flat out first week of the window last season. I totally get that. Its just most clubs once they make their mind up can get their signings in earlish and with less fuss and drama. We didn’t have covid as an excuse for Bruno or Harry. It’s just how we operate. It has nothing to do with Dortmund.
I feel like Joel being in america bargaining through Ed and Matt really slows everything down to a crawl and it probably rubs the selling clubs up the wrong way with us taking so long to move so little. I also feel It’s probably easier for Joel to play these games to save money when he doesn’t have to do the business face to face himself. Same with leaving the manager short on quality going into a season. He’s never here so It doesn’t make any difference to him day to day or week to week if we get a deal done or not or if the stadium is falling apart. All that matters at the end of the day is saving a million or two and keeping the fans off his back for as long as possible while they bank their cash.
The only thing is we are one of only about 5 clubs who have that kind of spending power to keep the selling clubs hanging on even if they are totally frustrated with a lack of progress. It might make us look smart at the end of the day but for 5/10 million here and there I say just do the deal and be much more ruthless when cutting players at the other end who rarely feature.
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Yes because those match-going lads are so well-respected by the Glazers and they make sure they are taken care of when they attend games with free organic showers and no distractions, such as WiFi.
I’ll bet you a tenner we get him this summer
Morally, sure.
Legally? No. The only way the Glazers pay off the clubs debt is if they leverage another one of their sport clubs or businesses with a enormous loan to pay off the clubs debt. That is not remotely realistic unfortunately.
Great reference
And the fans will smile and cheer him and Sancho on.
What time is this starting?
I doubt he's even heard of RedCafe.
Howson this morning said 12pm. Should be happening right now if correct.
Argh! I’m nervous for the fans and the quotes/outcome.
The meeting notes are released months later, so you'll be in for a wait.
Though maybe they'll make an exception for this one as it is so high profile and will come under increased pressure to release them early.
I’m hopeful the gist of the meeting will be out in the public domain by this evening this time around.
If he doesn’t make concessions the fans should pull a game of thrones on Joel and make him walk through the streets on Manchester naked and apologising
No one wants to see that. It worked in GoT because Cersei was hot. Joel, not so much, unless you're into that.I’m hopeful the gist of the meeting will be out in the public domain by this evening this time around.
If he doesn’t make concessions the fans should pull a game of thrones on Joel and make him walk through the streets on Manchester naked and apologising
hahaa no, it would be like watching 3 balls and some legs walking down the road. I’d pay 120 million to not have to see that. See there is value in the market after all.
Anything happened yet?
Will someone post the highlights on here?
Will someone post the highlights on here?
Any idea, what's going on?