I'm giving it 48 hours. Not sure what date to start the countdown. He'll definitely be wearing a united shirt. Or he wont.
Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed
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I have no idea what offers are actually made and how, during negotiation, and I don't think we will ever get that kind of information reliably from press reports, so I reformulated my post
i feel we'll get a lukaku-type tweet soon, something like:
"#MUFC is delighted to announce a fee has been agreed with @BlackYellow for the transfer of Jadon Sancho, subject to a medical after the Euros & personal terms. A further announcement will be made in due course."
"#MUFC is delighted to announce a fee has been agreed with @BlackYellow for the transfer of Jadon Sancho, subject to a medical after the Euros & personal terms. A further announcement will be made in due course."
If they manage to get a 9 digit fee this year yes but in a year's time a release clause of £70/75m is an insulting fee for a player like Haaland. Its very easy to talk from hindsight if we agreed to such a clause and he went for that there would be a lot of anger, vitriol and abuse towards Woodward and Utd's transfer committee for agreeing to such terms in the first place
Tonight btw
If Haaland did eventually get sold for 70/75 that would still be a hefty profit from a business perspective. Combine that with 2 years of service on a low salary from Haaland. There's always a chance to convince him to stay with a higher salary and a big pay-off to both himself and Raiola.
Wait until Sancho assists Rashford with a through-ball this Euro and the CAF will literally explode with giddiness.
Mate, you barely know the club. This discussion is everything but not objective. My point was, they don't need to sell. I'm not saying Sancho won't sign for United this summer, if you ask me I'd even say the transfer is quite likely now, but if it goes through you'll be paying exactly what Dortmund asked from the beginning because their preferred outcome is this transfer fails and they'll be grateful for every excuse you offer them to let it blow up.
Dortmund sold Pulisic for 60M € with only half a year left on his contract. Chances are the prices will recover over the next season. You can count on Sancho moving for at least 70M € next season if not more. Dortmund will be totally fine with spending 20-30M € for another season with the best player in their history. They did so with Lewandowski six or seven years ago when 30M € was much more than it is now. Put yourself in Dortmund's shoes, don't just assume the most comfortable conditions for Untied. The whole city of Dortmund will be celebrating if you mess this up again.
I think it’s fairly obvious Dortmund’s asking price has come down a fair bit from last summer.
Surely that were one and a half years?
Yes but I don't get what this has to do with what I wrote?
Its just a totally pointless discussion. Same with “pay the price they want”. All transfers are negotiated one way or another. After the deal
Is done Man Utd will brief the English press how good deal we got, same with Dortmund. The player will move in the end.
‘If it goes through United will be paying exactly what Dortmund wanted from the beginning’. Clearly this isn’t the case.
You mean Pulisic? He signed for Chelsea in January 2019 and had a contract until July 2020: https://www.transfermarkt.de/chelse...euerster-bundesliga-transfer/view/news/326273
IMO the reason clubs pay such sums for players is that they want to secure their services. And for that it's not really relevant how many years they have left on their contract unless the player is willing to only go to one club (like Lewandowski). In the end, the risk of a star player letting his contract run out is really low. It's game theory. One or two clubs will always break out in an attempt to secure the player and get an edge over their rivals.
So one and a half years.
There's probably time for a quick medical and shirt pose/piano promo this afternoon before getting back in time to play for England tomorrow. Announce Sancho.
Just have him announce it during the match. Maximum exposure!
Compared to the news flow last year, it looks rather certain that he will be signing soon.
Exactly
Yes but it is a bit more complicated in this case. Chelsea secured the signing in January 2019 but loaned him back to Dortmund. I recalled Chelsea loaned him back for a full season but that was wrong, so it's one year, not half a year.
This zehner kid is having a mare.
They did the deal early as they were anticipating the transfer ban and probably also had promised Hazard he could leave. So yeah, they paid basically 60m for a Pulisic with one year left, with probably a few millions of that fee down to them having to get things done early.
Pulisic was basically riding the bench at that time, and considering Hazard went for 100m+ with just a year on his contract, 75m € for Sancho next summer surely isn't unrealistic. So, I mean, you're not completely wrong.
He gets too emotional about German football sadly
They said that knowing due to Covid that there was no way Utd were going to pay that. The fact that at least negotiations are under way does suggest that there’s more than a little mileage in this
He doesn't even Support Dortmund I have no idea why he would be even interested in inner workings of Dortmund and how they operate in transfer market it's quite strange to be honest .
It may be a profit but compared to some big names sold like us with Ronaldo, Hazard, Coutinho, Bale, Ousmane Dembele, Mbappe and soon Kane/Sancho a profit of just £50m or thereabout for Haaland feels like nothing in this market. It wouldn't warrant any patting on the back in any way whatsoever
As for the "big pay off" are you practically not giving an agent and the player's dad more power than they should have? Something we're trying to avoid after this Pogba fiasco with Raiola? Not to mention any contract renewal where Haaland's dad and agent if he maintained this form at Utd would cost at least £400-500k a week in wages for a 21yr old. How much would his renewal cost AGAIN after that? The negative dominoes that would have arised were not worth it
The BDL isn't as rabid as last summer. Just a few stragglers holding the fort.
I don't follow. Giving Bruno a lower deal was part of the attempt I guess, to reign back in the spending. He obviously massively outperformed his base wage, so understandably he's in line for a major upgrade. But to get Sancho in - again, if reports are true - on 350K is definitely not lessons learned.
Yes, exactly
As I said, it is game theory. Elite clubs pay these fees to secure players. You can only significantly lower the asking price if there is a real possibility that you can get the player one year later for free. But that options is only on the table in very specific situations: 1. The player wants to move to one club and one club only. So much that he refuses every other offer and also is okay with spending another year at a club he wants to leave (Lewandowski).
2. All interested clubs have a gentlemen's agreement to not bid on the player so that he has no option to leave. The following season he can choose one of the interested clubs. This is basically a cartel and doesn't happen due to game theory.
3. One elite club is interested in a player that has no comparable offers and no other elite club wants to sign him (Goretzka). This is pretty much a variation of the first case.
If there are multiple clubs interested and the player is willing to move to multiple clubs, then the market mechanism starts working. It's not important if he has one, two, three or four years left on his contract then - at least not significantly. Because for the bidding parties, it makes no difference. It's about having a star player or not having him. They don't get more out of him if he had four years remaining. It's negotiation basics - put yourself in the other party's shoes.
I highly doubt if we will be paying him 350k a week as reported.
Yep. Some people do not seem to get the idea there will be some form of negotiations even incase of release clauses.
Of course there will be negotiations. He now only has 2 years left.
Plus he and his camp are not stupid, they know that after the pandemic apart from oil clubs no club can afford an unrealistic fee so if Dortmund are asking for it again his camp will probably not take it as easily this time and will want a compromise from all parties.
Also Sancho is not Pulisic, Auba or whoever. He actually wants to return home. He already stayed last season (which was on top a very difficult year due to covid) and his form/motivation was not there for a few months.
Now what happens if he has to stay for one more year. Of course he has a contract. But how will he deal with it? Will Dortmund risk it?
There are just many more reasons from all parties this time to make compromises (fee, add ons, payment structure, etc.) than last year.
Plus he and his camp are not stupid, they know that after the pandemic apart from oil clubs no club can afford an unrealistic fee so if Dortmund are asking for it again his camp will probably not take it as easily this time and will want a compromise from all parties.
Also Sancho is not Pulisic, Auba or whoever. He actually wants to return home. He already stayed last season (which was on top a very difficult year due to covid) and his form/motivation was not there for a few months.
Now what happens if he has to stay for one more year. Of course he has a contract. But how will he deal with it? Will Dortmund risk it?
There are just many more reasons from all parties this time to make compromises (fee, add ons, payment structure, etc.) than last year.
but then he wouldn’t have gone to Dortmund if he didn’t have the release clause. So it looks like it’s going to plan for everyone involved.
Expect nothing less from the proud founder of the BDL.
The spin doctors of the BDL out in full force. I fully expect the gaslighting to begin when we settle on a price.
"You paid what Dortmund wanted all along"
"You paid what Dortmund wanted all along"
What was the name of that Dortmund supporter that got banned last year? He was like a one man Dortmund defence in last years Sancho thread.
Stupid BDL with all their nonsense. Wrote so much bullshit last season, too. You would think that it would've shut them up that Dortmund eventually gave in and sold Sancho to United for far less than they demanded eventually. Imagine how United's season would've went without Sancho in their team. Such idiots, should really know better by now.
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