Yet reports are that Dortmund want €90 to €95m, not £.
Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed
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anyone thinking we are walking away / going to let someone else swoop in over 10 million is having a laugh.
This is all a game of "creative" repayment clauses and repayment periods. He's coming to MUFC. It's done.
This is all a game of "creative" repayment clauses and repayment periods. He's coming to MUFC. It's done.
Biggest question at this point will be what number does he get, as Cavani here for another year with the #7
This. He has a playmaker ability for sure. Good eye for a pass in tight circumstances/low block. I see him a Bruno sub when he needs a day off or maybe like City a double playmaker/#10 scenario.
He'll get the 7 hopefully when he delivers on his promises in due time any random number would suit my answer. However, knowing United I know they'll make a fuzz about it. After indulging that he can take 18 after Bruno gets his beloved number 8. Or 9 as we hear Martial might not be here next season ...
Sounds like you answered your own question.
Everyone accuses United to be a business more than a football club. Then if we are to apply that assumption then there is more logic in their approach and lessons learnt.
I'm not really following this saga except for updates on Twitter so I'm just hoping i wake up one day to find the deal has finally been completed. Really hope it doesn't drag out but considering how inept our club is at getting deals done with no fuss I won't hold my breath.
What the feck does that even mean?
Why the dig at the end when you know nothing about the transfer?
Club could be doing it’s upmost.
Isaak Shreader damnint
Big day today
pretending this is the same doesn't speak that loudly for you great financial ability either...You would get taken to the cleaners at any of our local markets with that attitude
but you fail to tell me how well the negotiating went last year... are you an MP or something?
Dortmund have never said they aren't open to the terms - they said the price was the price
It's strange how people in the caf quote journalists when what's written backs up their beliefs, then call then idiots, scumbags and fantasists when what they write doesn't. So next time The Athletic say we are in for Messi, you'll just agree with them? If you really believe Woodward hasn't and doesn't continue to muck up our club, well, I've just left a tooth under my pillow and will blame you when I don't find any cash there tomorrow...
So you are following then?
I don't think you understand the concept of negotiating
I hope he get 7, we need to finally have a worthy long term successor for the #7, after Best, Cantona, Beckham and Ronaldo.
Cavani is good but he is only here for short term.
Last season they said exactly the same, word for word - that there's an agreement with the player he can be sold if certain condidtions - fee, time of the transfer, are met.
They only stated there weren't selling after the deadline they'd been proclaiming publicly all summer had passed - keeping in line with the meaning of, well, deadline.
Good luck negotiating with a party whose favourite outcome is a failed deal.
It hasn't occurred to you that Sancho might tell United to f..off after failing to sign him 2 years in a row ?
Sporting Lisboa was in a huge financial crisis - Dortmund are not. Dortmund knows they can easily raise £100m + for Haaland if they madly need to raise money - so they can afford to wait.
I'm not really following this saga except for this thread
Last seasons financial report revealed that making a significant sale each year was part of their business strategy. They’ve already announced they lost 49.5m in 19/20 and that figure is likely much higher for 20/21. They didn’t manage to sell any significant players last season.
So while they might not be in any sort of financial “difficulty” you’re kidding yourself if you think they don’t want to get this transfer done this season. They can bluster all they like about not wanting or needing to sell, fortunately the United negotiators won’t be as green as the fans who are lapping up every word Dortmund preach as gospel.
I'm not following this saga except for plane schedules at Manchester airport.
But it's a big day today.
But it's a big day today.
Sancho Saturday.
Rekt.
There's something to be said for being able to walk away from a deal, means that next time clubs take you more seriously. High risk / high reward.
Dortmund has debts equaling around 27M €. United has around 675M €. They don't need to sell at all. If they were in need of cash, they could just raise a loan like it is common practice among practically all football clubs in the world.
The level of empathy in this thread is really astonishing. People pretend to be master negotiators yet don't even try to put themselves in the position of the other party.
comparing debt size
Last season those close to Utd also reported that the club saw BVB's demands as "unrealistic" and that the gap in valuation was very big. There was never a time talks between the two clubs progressed like they have this year with just formalities left
Dortmund is only selling at a particular price because of their gentlemen’s agreement and the fact Sancho want to go home.
United’s debt is part of its business model to offset tax paid on profits.
Dortmund’s business model is completely the opposite. They’re not going to start loading up on debt when they can sell players.
It’s not about empathy. It’s an objective discussion. You can’t just have Dortmund’s bluster being taken as fact and then cry about empathy when a valid counter argument is put forward.
Surely though you could argue this summer is the last real opportunity to get a good price for him?
Sanchos contract ends in 2023, which means next summer he'll have a year left. Clubs will know that obviously and will likely want to get him on a free the following season. So United surely must have some leverage in that? Not much admittidly, but some at the very least?
Yes, but my post was just about the public stance of the BVB board and their readiness to sell.
I for one was surprised you didn't buy him last summer, though with the pandemic maybe I shouldn't have been. My take is that you decided not to spend big on Sancho as Juve didn't spend big on Pogba.
This summer, it would be pretty weird if it didn't happen after all that smoke.
Do we really want to break our transfer record and wage structure for somebody who can’t get in the England starting XI?!
*we do*
*we do*
Whats the alternative? We've asked to be kept informed on the situations of Kinglsey Coman and Dembele (barca) as fallback options. Honestly id rather utd overpaid for Sancho now we are so close rather than either of them.
It wasn't due to lack of offers for Pogba we still made an unofficial offer of €100m(add ons included) we simply didn't want to pay £108m up front during a pandemic and frankly nobody was ever paying that. Utd's negotiating team can be stupid at times but we've never failed to complete our big money signings when talks are just discussing last formalities
This is a done deal.
Not sure what happened with those transfer dealings but had United gone through with Ole's/scouts recommendations on Bellingham and Haaland we would be seeing a different squad and only looking for a major centre-back and a few bolt-ons in the transfer market. It's been a comedy of errors in the clubs' transfer dealings for years.
Might be a controversial comment but from a purely financial perspective, Raiola's antics and hefty charges are worth the hassle. He's made or will make Dortmund a lot of money.
Not sure what happened with those transfer dealings but had United gone through with Ole's/scouts recommendations on Bellingham and Haaland we would be seeing a different squad and only looking for a major centre-back and a few bolt-ons in the transfer market. It's been a comedy of errors in the clubs' transfer dealings for years.
Might be a controversial comment but from a purely financial perspective, Raiola's antics and hefty charges are worth the hassle. He's made or will make Dortmund a lot of money.
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