Hilarious how people expect that Sancho will make Rashford a bench player. Oh dear.
Has the cult of Rashford become more important than the player?
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I'm American so my 2 cents might be discarded, but it's very frustrating seeing people get angry with Rashford. I'm originally from Chicago and one of my favorite ballplayers used to have cancer and he is now a huge advocate for kids who are suffering through cancer. Opposing fans love to make fun of him as if he's virtue signaling. I understand people questioning whether someone being a good person can overshadow their on-pitch performances, but I find it grossly unfair to come down on Rashford based on a condensed season in which he was struggling with injury.
Rashford has always given his best, he's always been dedicated to the club, and he's always been an attacker. Do I wish he "passed more" and had a more well-rounded game? Absolutely, and he does deserve criticism for not learning to get his head on the end of the ball more, but I feel like our fanbase is turning so quickly on him because he was injured during the most crowded fixture schedule in league history and yet he still refused to be benched because he knew our back-ups were awful. Our fans, if anything, have never been the kind to allow past performances to dictate modern opinions. Rather, most Reds seem quite ready to turn on anyone who struggles, even if it is someone who is injured (rashford) over someone who has just failed to ever live up to his potential (Martial)
Rashford has always given his best, he's always been dedicated to the club, and he's always been an attacker. Do I wish he "passed more" and had a more well-rounded game? Absolutely, and he does deserve criticism for not learning to get his head on the end of the ball more, but I feel like our fanbase is turning so quickly on him because he was injured during the most crowded fixture schedule in league history and yet he still refused to be benched because he knew our back-ups were awful. Our fans, if anything, have never been the kind to allow past performances to dictate modern opinions. Rather, most Reds seem quite ready to turn on anyone who struggles, even if it is someone who is injured (rashford) over someone who has just failed to ever live up to his potential (Martial)
Probably 95% of the squad aren’t physically at their best. It’s a shoulder injury, I’m sure it probably does hamper his ability to hold people off or challenge/ go shoulder to shoulder with them but this is becoming a tired and lame excuse for poor performances which have been more to do with his lack of desire or poor choices on the pitch.
Yeah, Ronaldo and Rooney won everything on their own, nothing to do with the great players we had in every position like VDS, Rio, Vida, Evra, Scholes, Giggs, Carrick, even Tevez and then squad players like Nani, Anderson, Park, Brown, Fletcher. Biggest strength of all, GOAT manager.
Oh right so now his injury doesn’t mean anything because your a doctor that happens to be a dietician.
Ultimately he is saying he has an injury - you are acting like he doesn’t and everyone else does
I mean it’s painfully obvious why a player with a shoulder injury can play extra games because it doesn’t necessarily effect his ability to kick a ball - but it will effect a players speed and physical ability.If you don’t believe in that as a problem to his performances then it’s clear you just don’t rate Rashford.
ENJOY Rashford mate - he is not going anywhere, poor decision making but will still score important goals for United. During that time I have a wonderful thread with wonderful ‘fans’ to target and laugh at every time he scores a goal.
I think Rashford is a great player to have at the age of 23. Even if he doesn’t get better, he is more valuable than the dross we had like Valencia, Ashley Young and even Nani - yet people didn’t complain by opening threads about cults because success was still arriving their way.
Success stops and then these inconsistent and weak fans starts targeting players that are hardly an issue.
Exactly utter bullshit. Experienced players like Scholes, RVN, GIggs and so many more were leading the team whilst younger players developed and added inconsistent but useful performances to our team aswell.
The OP is a cult.
Yeah, I don't understand why people always come up with "with player x we won't win anything" "player x won leagues by himself" when it's a team game.
I played through an injury for an important game, seems like a bravado and commendable.
I played with an injury for an entire season and gave half performances and I am doing same for NT too, seems like stupidity and not something to be applauded.
And that stands for any player, not just our guy.
I played with an injury for an entire season and gave half performances and I am doing same for NT too, seems like stupidity and not something to be applauded.
And that stands for any player, not just our guy.
I think since class of 92 there’s been a kind of insisted inevitability that every young player will become as good and that not sticking with them until they do is somehow un-United. This has led to a conveyor belt of players who are nowhere near that standard that we have to suspend our disbelief to pretend they’re anywhere near the class of 92 standard.
Rashford is likely ahead of the others over the years but there’s still a chasm between level of player he is and the level of player we brought through in the early 90s. Even when they were the same age he is now with similar or less experience in terms of game time. Some say that these were exceptional talents and comparison is unfair but isn’t that the standard we should be expecting?
Agreed, this whole ‘not injured enough to miss game time, too injured to be judged on his performances’ thing is odd.
I don’t really see why you have to slate others just to praise Rashford. You can’t do that and simultaneously call other’s bad supporters.
You‘ve become the thing you guys are rallying against so hard. A hysterical knee jerk fan. I think you’ll read back on this thread eventually and cringe/regret some of the things you’ve posted. You also keep posting inflammatory and disrespectful comments and attacks on fan groups in order to keep the thread alive.Oh right so now his injury doesn’t mean anything because your a doctor that happens to be a dietician.
Ultimately he is saying he has an injury - you are acting like he doesn’t and everyone else does
If you don’t believe in that as a problem to his performances then it’s clear you just don’t rate Rashford.
ENJOY Rashford mate - he is not going anywhere, poor decision making but will still score important goals for United. During that time I have a wonderful thread with wonderful ‘fans’ to target and laugh at every time he scores a goal.
I think Rashford is a great player to have at the age of 23. Even if he doesn’t get better, he is more valuable than the dross we had like Valencia, Ashley Young and even Nani - yet people didn’t complain by opening threads about cults because success was still arriving their way.
Success stops and then these inconsistent and weak fans starts targeting players that are hardly an issue.
Now I’m not acting like he doesn’t have an injury, if you read Ive clearly acknowledged it and pointed out what people criticise him for is his lack of decision making. Last I checked the brain is in the head.
Then you start putting words in people mouths. Honestly I felt Cult was pure hyperbole but seeing how rabid people are in this thread I’m starting to believe their is actually a certain minority that do only care about Rashford and not the team and are exhibiting Cult like behaviour.
To be honest I’m surprised you aren’t getting warnings from the mods for a lot of your posts, inflamitory and insulting but the mods probably pulled out of this thread ages ago.
Anyway I think you’ll find I've said many a time I think Rashford can be a great player, he just needs to improve aspects of his game. Something that when it has been mentioned in the performance thread was met with stern resistance and attacks. It wasn’t like I’d said he was absolute tosh. Just that he could do better or certain things better.
Now why Rashford is discussed is because this is a football forum. People discuss performances and what they feel like certain players need to do better or do their attributes mesh with the team. People have differing opinions on how football should be played to be successful and who is needed or wanted to do that. Some maybe don’t think Rashford has the capability to do that or we don’t have the coaches to get it out of him. All fair questions
Now let’s put the cult thing aside because the thread has moved on from that. There were plenty of threads created about Valencia, Nani and many more not being good enough. They still had people defending or criticising them to extreme lengths. Every player has had the same thing even when we were winning. So I don’t agree with the it’s because we aren’t winning. Most people it’s probably because they aren’t seeing the development or signs that the player is willing to adapt and improve to what they think will improve the team.
(Also the Irony of slagging off some of our other players whilst playing the moral high ground card to defend another
)I agree I’m glad we have Rashford, I’m not sure I enjoy his performances but then I can say that for pretty much the whole team, as none of them are really performing at a good consistent level or working well as a team. I think the difference is some see and acknowledge there is room for improvement and saying so isn’t targeting Rashford. Just stating what people believe to be objective opinions.
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Yeah it is weird. Like I’ve read through this thread and where I don’t agree with everything you’ve written some of it I do. Some of your points maybe just taken the wrong way or not understood. Like the 300 game experience is it. I get the point but I do think age is a factor in that. Maybe he’s played close to 300 games but I find myself now that I’m older I’m much more open to others peoples thoughts and ideas of how I should do something than I was at 22-23.
Rooney and Ronaldo did not win us everything on their own. We had Rio, Vidic, Scholes, VDS, a team of great leaders with experience. We also had one of the best managers of all time. The issue of where we are is not because of Martial and Rashford, its because we have a average team in general with a big lack of leadership.
Having a good backbone is always important but it would be a bit naive to believe that we would have the same success if we had Rashford and Martial instead of Ronaldo and Rooney back then with the same backbone. There's no doubt that if you go the other way and had that Ronaldo and Rooney in this team instead of Martial and Rashford, we would have won the premier league at least once in the last few years. Prime Man Utd Ronaldo alone was better than Rashford and Martial combined.
Honestly if you are expecting Sancho to be a lot better than Rashford and similar to Rooney/Ronaldo, you are in for a disappointment.
Not without SAF.
Re bold part, would love to see anyone or any post that implied that.
There are times when Rashford hasn't played well over the last two seasons, but overall he's been excellent and one of our best players during that period. 25 g+a in the 2019/20 season and 32 in the 20/21 season. That's excellent for a 22 and 23 year old.
There are areas of his game he could improve on. He has a tendency to overdribble and his finishing is patchy. But it's also clear that he's developed a creative side to his game as well. He has a broader range of passing now than what he had a few years ago and he's created a lot of chances from his wide left position. Development isn't linear however and he can still improve on his decision making in the years to come.
I think if he were putting in those numbers for a different club we'd be clamouring to sign him. But as he's under the microscope here all a.lot of people see is his faults and not the overwhelming positives.
There are areas of his game he could improve on. He has a tendency to overdribble and his finishing is patchy. But it's also clear that he's developed a creative side to his game as well. He has a broader range of passing now than what he had a few years ago and he's created a lot of chances from his wide left position. Development isn't linear however and he can still improve on his decision making in the years to come.
I think if he were putting in those numbers for a different club we'd be clamouring to sign him. But as he's under the microscope here all a.lot of people see is his faults and not the overwhelming positives.
I didn't realize shoulder injuries affect the brain.
Wow you are delusional. We would not have won the PL or even close.
reading the posts, what i wanna say is that we can critique Rashford's performances, despite the fact that he is not 100% fit and is suffering from knocks in his shoulder or ankle/foot, he is a senior and a key player within the team and is expected to perform when he is on the pitch, for me, overall Rashford did well throughout the season with his goal scoring and creating goals, he was also inconsistent in many games and still suffers from poor decision making at times, however, I am confident that once the Euros finish, and he gets the surgeries and the rest he needs, he will come back better and stronger.
Right, this season alone we were in the first place most of the January month and dropped because after that we lost to the mighty Sheffield (20th) and then he draw against the likes of West Brom (19th), Leeds (9th), Crystal Palace (14th), Fulham (18th). In the second part of the season that's 11 points lost against teams that on paper are way worse than us (7 points lost to the bottom 3).
In those games both Rashford and Martial combined scored 0 goals (3 of those games were 0-0 draws).
I'm delusional for thinking that having the prime Man Utd. Ronaldo and Rooney version over Rashford and Martial would be enough to win the premier league this season? The same guy that at some point scored 42 goals and had 8 assists while the other scored 34 goals and had 7 assists. I'm not even bothering to use peak Ronaldo as an example because he scored in a season almost as many goals as we as club scored all season in the premier (61 vs 73) and he didn't play for us.
Of course, things aren't as linear and it's unfair to compare both their peaks here with Rashford and Martial season but the hypothetical scenario was if we could change both in their peak years for us for Rashford and Martial, would we win the league at least once in the last few years. And for me, it wouldn't be a delusional assumption that we would by using this season as an example.
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I think England’s minimal use of him, his actual performances in 2021 and Marcus subsequent quotes have proved some of us right about his standard of play. It’s not good enough and he’s been frustrating. There were far too many times this season where he was literally walking, gets the ball, loses it, breaks down play and made no effort at all to get it back, over and over but you couldn’t point that out for some reason. That’s not good enough for England and it shouldn’t be good enough for United if we want to win stuff. End of story. We need to play with intensity and one important player walking around game after game sets a dreadful tone I’m afraid. It was literally painful to watch.
Now the next thing is Ole. What the actual feck? He was playing him in every single game to the point of even bringing him on in dead rubbers, no matter the previous performances or body language. We were forced to watch Rashford struggle through game after game when there were other options in the squad if he’d just adapted the team or formation. It’s ok to play someone through pain for a match or even a few matches in an emergency but what the hell is this? Was Rashford playing on painkillers for an entire season? Oles overuse of Bruno and Rashford this season actually makes me mad. They were both out of form and visibly wrecked by the final and still are to this day. What the hell is going on here? He can say the lads always wanted to play, brave lads etc but he’s getting paid an absolute fortune to make these calls over the players heads. Like their form completely dropped off and they were visibly well off it. Very poor from him.
I said well over a month ago that Dan James would have a better individual Euros in a far worse team than Marcus and I’ve been proved correct so far. Aggression, work rate and fitness are massively underrated on here and seemingly by Ole too. You have to earn the right to walk around a football pitch. Maybe when you’re a few goals up but right from the start of games? We played into the oppositions hands too many times last season and using Rashford as our main outlet so often was a big part of that.
I hope he can get fit next season and show us all the beast of a player that’s in there. He can definitely do it. He has all the talent and he obviously cares enough about the club to play through pain. We need to leave behind the days where walking around the pitch with a pained expression like Pogba Martial and now Rashofrd has almost become the norm. Full fitness, belief and aggression and this team can definitely go up a level and take the next step. We are so close!
Now the next thing is Ole. What the actual feck? He was playing him in every single game to the point of even bringing him on in dead rubbers, no matter the previous performances or body language. We were forced to watch Rashford struggle through game after game when there were other options in the squad if he’d just adapted the team or formation. It’s ok to play someone through pain for a match or even a few matches in an emergency but what the hell is this? Was Rashford playing on painkillers for an entire season? Oles overuse of Bruno and Rashford this season actually makes me mad. They were both out of form and visibly wrecked by the final and still are to this day. What the hell is going on here? He can say the lads always wanted to play, brave lads etc but he’s getting paid an absolute fortune to make these calls over the players heads. Like their form completely dropped off and they were visibly well off it. Very poor from him.
I said well over a month ago that Dan James would have a better individual Euros in a far worse team than Marcus and I’ve been proved correct so far. Aggression, work rate and fitness are massively underrated on here and seemingly by Ole too. You have to earn the right to walk around a football pitch. Maybe when you’re a few goals up but right from the start of games? We played into the oppositions hands too many times last season and using Rashford as our main outlet so often was a big part of that.
I hope he can get fit next season and show us all the beast of a player that’s in there. He can definitely do it. He has all the talent and he obviously cares enough about the club to play through pain. We need to leave behind the days where walking around the pitch with a pained expression like Pogba Martial and now Rashofrd has almost become the norm. Full fitness, belief and aggression and this team can definitely go up a level and take the next step. We are so close!
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It’s hard as there’s no definitive measurement of a player’s maturity. Some mature early, some mature late. I think it can depend on how much football someone’s been exposed to.
Not a hard and fast rule but a 20 year old whose played 100 games would probably be considered a more experienced player than a 23 year old whose player 30 but there are so many variables.
With Rashford I honestly don’t think he’s a better, more effective, player now than he was 100 games ago. Many of the flaws in his game are those most young players have to overcome but despite his game time he doesn’t seem to be overcoming them. Specifically his decision making. It doesn’t make him a bad player if he never does but it might mean he’s not good enough to be regular starter for team with ambitions to challenge for honours for long term
I would not be shocked if he becomes a useful rotation option for us or maybe get more game time dropping down a level to side who usually aren’t expected to challenge for CL places
I think he’ll be better than a squad player and I can’t see him leaving to drop to a level where he’s not expected to challenge. Let’s be honest he has all the tools to be a very successful player. He just maybe isn’t using them in the correct manner currently. He might mature later then all of a sudden kick in to hyper gear. Ronaldo for example was a bit all over the shop but after the Euros with the Rooney incident he came back and went to an entirely different level.
I do think Rashford has it in him to improve and I really hope he does but for me I think he has looked better on the right and been a better fit in the team as his game changes and seems to be less self involved when he is on the right. As for the injury thing, feels like he needs protecting from himself at times. I want to see Sancho left and Marcus on the right but not really as fixed positions and free to change. Good if Martial could find some form next season also.
Not expecting prime Rooney or Ronaldo for sure. If we are payin gnear £80m I certainly expect better than Rashford has been though
On last seasons form? He will.
Start of next season will be:
Sancho Cavani Greenwood
When Rashford gets fit again by the end of next season it’ll be:
Sancho Greenwood Rashford
I put Marcus on the right because that’s where he gets the bulk of his assists from but of course it’ll be fluid and starting positions don’t mean much anymore. We are signing Sancho to improve our creativity and he’s better on the left.
They don't score those amount of goals with this team. Teams win things, you cannot say 1/2 players just come into a team and they just add their value, their value comes from a functional team around them.
A 36y old Ronaldo still scored around 40 goals with a far worse Juventus side this season so I don't think it would be farfetched to believe that a younger and better version of this Ronaldo couldn't have a similar output this season.
Either way, having a trash team and the number 1 player in the world (not saying it is Ronaldo, just a hypothetical number 1 player), doesn't translate into a trophy-winning team but that's not the case at all.
Manchester United team is decent enough to challenge for the titles but it isn't decent enough to win those titles. Imo needs 1 or 2 game changers, something that neither Rashford nor Martial are and something that Ronaldo and Rooney were.
City have had Sterling, Sane, Mahrez, Ferran Torres, Bernardo silva, Foden capable of playing out wide whilst players such as Gabriel Jesus and Aguero playing centrally.
All those players and yet people are wondering about Rashford’s imperfections like he is a useless player not worth “to be in a title winning United squad”.
All those players and yet people are wondering about Rashford’s imperfections like he is a useless player not worth “to be in a title winning United squad”.
Nobody said that. You and others are always acting like this is personal. Winning titles is our business at the end of the day. If your main undroppable forward is low energy and predictable that sets a poor tone for the rest of the team. It also leaves us predictable and open to be sucker punched on the counter while we push forward struggling to score or create. Why can’t people separate the two things?
Me and @stw2022 (as far as I can see, correct me if I’m wrong) two of the most outspoken people in this thread have only been talking about winning football matches, squad status and a player the manager seemingly had a massive mental block about dropping no matter of the evidence presented week after week. Don’t you think the fact he now can’t even get into the England team from being an absolute nailed on starter says a lot more about where he actually is form wise vs his peers than @roonster09 going
and blindly posting stats? If it’s not good enough for England it shouldn’t have been good enough for United either. I care about United winning more than the stats of Rashford or any other particular player. I genuinely couldn’t give a shit if Rashford doesn’t score or assist for 6 months if he was genuinely working his ass off and driving the team forward. The numbers will always come if the work is there. In a top team walking around and picking up sporadic numbers isn’t ever going to be good enough to win anything. Why can’t you guys get that? It’s not and never was personal or about numbers.
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Given Rashford's output and his age, I don't see his market value below 80m either.
You’ve been a good poster in here. A voice of reason amongst theYou‘ve become the thing you guys are rallying against so hard. A hysterical knee jerk fan. I think you’ll read back on this thread eventually and cringe/regret some of the things you’ve posted. You also keep posting inflammatory and disrespectful comments and attacks on fan groups in order to keep the thread alive.
Now I’m not acting like he doesn’t have an injury, if you read Ive clearly acknowledged it and pointed out what people criticise him for is his lack of decision making. Last I checked the brain is in the head.
Then you start putting words in people mouths. Honestly I felt Cult was pure hyperbole but seeing how rabid people are in this thread I’m starting to believe their is actually a certain minority that do only care about Rashford and not the team and are exhibiting Cult like behaviour.
To be honest I’m surprised you aren’t getting warnings from the mods for a lot of your posts, inflamitory and insulting but the mods probably pulled out of this thread ages ago.
Anyway I think you’ll find I've said many a time I think Rashford can be a great player, he just needs to improve aspects of his game. Something that when it has been mentioned in the performance thread was met with stern resistance and attacks. It wasn’t like I’d said he was absolute tosh. Just that he could do better or certain things better.
Now why Rashford is discussed is because this is a football forum. People discuss performances and what they feel like certain players need to do better or do their attributes mesh with the team. People have differing opinions on how football should be played to be successful and who is needed or wanted to do that. Some maybe don’t think Rashford has the capability to do that or we don’t have the coaches to get it out of him. All fair questions
Now let’s put the cult thing aside because the thread has moved on from that. There were plenty of threads created about Valencia, Nani and many more not being good enough. They still had people defending or criticising them to extreme lengths. Every player has had the same thing even when we were winning. So I don’t agree with the it’s because we aren’t winning. Most people it’s probably because they aren’t seeing the development or signs that the player is willing to adapt and improve to what they think will improve the team.
(Also the Irony of slagging off some of our other players whilst playing the moral high ground card to defend another
I agree I’m glad we have Rashford, I’m not sure I enjoy his performances but then I can say that for pretty much the whole team, as none of them are really performing at a good consistent level or working well as a team. I think the difference is some see and acknowledge there is room for improvement and saying so isn’t targeting Rashford. Just stating what people believe to be objective opinions.
and screaming about fecking Tories! I’d say that poster is one of only a few English posters in here for gods sake and very few again care about English politics. We all want kids to be happy and well fed and it’s absolutely disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Hopefully Rashford gets fit and bosses it with more aggression and consistency next season. I’m genuinely perplexed with Oles role in all this the season just gone. Just madness to overuse an unfit and out of form player to that extent.
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Unpopular opinion: In a side that is aiming to win titles, Rashford is a rotation player. Great player when he is in the zone but lacks the consistency to be an undisputed first-team player
Yes if Rashford doesn’t improve his form and does not recover from injuries he will (or should) not start many games.
But this can be done for everyone.
If Sancho shows his early season Dortmund form he should not start many games.
If Greenwood shows even anything close to the form he showed for 2/3 of the season he will hardly start any games.
If Martial … well don’t even know what to write here. People are also forgetting that Ole kept playing a very out of form Martialuntil he actually got injured.
If Bruno shows his form of the last few months he should not start many games.
No idea why it is automatically assumed or implied (even in the Sancho thread) that only Rashford might be in poor form next season while everyone else will be flying.
Based on last seasons all our attacking players will have good and average/bad months and spells. Let’s just hope they are not all out of form at the same time.
Success between 06 and 09 was majorly due to Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez/Saha. Remove Rooney and Ronaldo... we probably would have won 1 league title. SAF hit the jackpot with Ronaldo and Rooney. Not taking anything away from SAF's foresight in trusting two of the best young players of their generation.
Our current team is not bad at all. It has arguably a better midfield than United had in 06-09. Defense is reasonable with Maguire and Lindelof. It is the attack which is not balanced and unreliable. Put Sancho and Mbappe there instead of Rashford, Martial etc and do not change a single player in this team... we will start winning I can guarentee that.
Saw the comments by Rashford about his shoulder injury. I must say given how unfit he has appeared, he probably should have got the surgery done at the start of the season only. His gradual worsening of performance while playing through injury has helped no one in the short run as well as robbed some crucial time for development of his game.
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I don’t get it - you are happy to have him in the squad so what is there to complain about?
People act like we had Sancho last year and he was never being picked because Rashford was some sort of favorite.
Last season Martial was at his worse of all seasons and to top that off he was injured for most of the season aswell. Rashford has to start over him and did start over him.
Daniel James won’t come up with the numbers Rashford did and arguably has the same weaknesses as him but possibly even worse - like his decision making or even dribbling in to people.
So Rashford got picked most of last season whilst his competition was much much worse. Yet people act like there is some sort of Cult for him? I just don’t get that.
The only competition Rashford had last season was Pogba who was good and creative on the left to the point that Rashford was playing on the right.
How is there a cult
You and all of your friends seems to value him as a squad player - then blame him or whoever for not being a squad player. How is that Rashford’s faults.
Hell, we are buying Sancho & if he manages to drop the current version of Rashford then we will simply be better than the team that utelised Rashford and managed to get 36 goals or something from him in a year or season. If Sancho ends up doing better than Greenwood after competition then we will be better off than when we only had to rely on Greenwood who scored like 7 goals last season.
Yet why doesn’t Greenwood have a cult? Because he is deemed a useful player already for our squad and should be given direct competition for his position Plus he should improve. I see absolutely no difference in Rashford- no cult, good enough for our squad and should be given direct competition and has the age and time to improve.
Yet for some reason some believe he has a damn cult when all his competition were worse than him or out injured, to top it all off the club (and not fans) are buying a player that may well compete with him at LW and RW - how is there a bloody cult I just don’t see it.
A player far from perfect but has numbers that are absolutely jaw dropping especially when you find out who he beats. Absolutely nothing really to complain about - unless complaining is something that some people have to do when criticizing a player whilst hardly looking at the positives.
I don’t get it - you are happy to have him in the squad so what is there to complain about?
People act like we had Sancho last year and he was never being picked because Rashford was some sort of favorite.
Last season Martial was at his worse of all seasons and to top that off he was injured for most of the season aswell. Rashford has to start over him and did start over him.
Daniel James won’t come up with the numbers Rashford did and arguably has the same weaknesses as him but possibly even worse - like his decision making or even dribbling in to people.
So Rashford got picked most of last season whilst his competition was much much worse. Yet people act like there is some sort of Cult for him? I just don’t get that.
The only competition Rashford had last season was Pogba who was good and creative on the left to the point that Rashford was playing on the right.
How is there a cult
You and all of your friends seems to value him as a squad player - then blame him or whoever for not being a squad player. How is that Rashford’s faults.
Hell, we are buying Sancho & if he manages to drop the current version of Rashford then we will simply be better than the team that utelised Rashford and managed to get 36 goals or something from him in a year or season. If Sancho ends up doing better than Greenwood after competition then we will be better off than when we only had to rely on Greenwood who scored like 7 goals last season.
Yet why doesn’t Greenwood have a cult? Because he is deemed a useful player already for our squad and should be given direct competition for his position Plus he should improve. I see absolutely no difference in Rashford- no cult, good enough for our squad and should be given direct competition and has the age and time to improve.
Yet for some reason some believe he has a damn cult when all his competition were worse than him or out injured, to top it all off the club (and not fans) are buying a player that may well compete with him at LW and RW - how is there a bloody cult
I just don’t see it.A player far from perfect but has numbers that are absolutely jaw dropping especially when you find out who he beats. Absolutely nothing really to complain about - unless complaining is something that some people have to do when criticizing a player whilst hardly looking at the positives.
I don't think that's unpopular opinion at all. If we sign a player who can bench Rashford then that means we have great player in the 11, which also improves the squad.
Rotational player for team winning trophies isn't bad for him I guess, again which also means we have very good squad which is what we need to win trophies.
When people start coming up with "no top 7 team in top leagues will sign him" or lie about his stats, that's when the arguments startes (well then can act all innocent after that btw, which us hilarious)
I don't think anyone would even disagree with the point that he would be rotational team for the team that is winning leagues, what people would disagree people blatantly posting fake goal stats or playing down him completely.
Btw re your other post, I wouldn't say with Ronaldo or Rooney we will win the league. Add both with SAF then we will for sure.