Have to say you're managing to quite well.how is it so hard to understand a simple post.
Has the cult of Rashford become more important than the player?
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Of all the dumb shit spouted on this thread, this is the dumbest, thickest Tory faced shit of all.
Congratulations, you should be proud.
Edit, utter bewilderment at the Bollox I'm reading.
This lad is absolute cringe “I don’t post in here because other posters lie about Rashford” you are totally full of it. You post in here all the time. I bet you have the thread watched and all. 129 and counting. The absolute hypocrisy of you talking about telling lies.
2600 posts and still not promoted!? I can totally see why. Is that a record on here? It must be up there. In the spirit of your hero loonster :
And this? Holy shit. Where to begin? For one how can you tell someone’s political leanings through their dislike of a footballers game? I’m pretty politically left and I really admire MR for what he’s done off the pitch but his game also really frustrates me.
2600 posts and still not promoted!? I can totally see why. Is that a record on here? It must be up there. In the spirit of your hero loonster :
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No that’s not what I said. I mean the idea that he only plays out wide because he’s a rubbish striker is just another way of being nasty about him for the sake of it. He’s a great left winger in his own right. He didn’t even play mainly as a striker as a youth player and has even said himself he doesn’t see himself as a striker. Honestly, why do people actively look for reasons to put down our own players? It’s bizarre and puts me off this forum sometimes.
I’m sure someone will tell me in a minute that Rashford is some kind of protected species that we aren’t allowed to criticise, which once again, is not what I’m saying.
I don't think he's a great left-winger at all. On his day he's good but all too often he's the full-stop to any attacking movement when he gets the ball and runs, head down, into the nearest defender. To be the kind of winger/wide-forward he's trying to be it requires someone much better at taking defenders on, it requires someone who can beat a defender regularly not just occasionally. Of all the players to play in that position who for us over the last 20 who were similarly attack minded and accumulated a similar level of games or more for us, I struggle to think of many I'd put Rashford ahead of. Even when we had Young and Valencia before their conversion to full-backs they rarely seemed to slow everything down as much as he does. Nani was a tremendously frustrating player with erratic form but I'd take him.
It’s fine if you don’t rate him. We all see things different. But to say he only plays on the left because he’s a rubbish striker is just making up reasons to have a go. Can we agree on that?
He isn't a rubbish striker but he's not a great one all the same. I'm not a fan of forward players in wide positions in lieu of specialist wide-men anyway unless exceptionally talented.
That’s not what I meant. Rashford is not a failed striker. His best position is left forward. That shouldn’t be manufactured into some kind of unnecessary childish criticism.
Probably, but often they're not instead of left/right-sided midfield players, in our set up he seems to be and that's not what I'm a fan of. It's a criticism of the manager not Rashford.
Christ, another one. Did you come up with yourself or just borrow it from one of the other dumb fecks who've said it.This lad is absolute cringe “I don’t post in here because other posters lie about Rashford” you are totally full of it. You post in here all the time. I bet you have the thread watched and all. 129 and counting. The absolute hypocrisy of you talking about telling lies.
And this? Holy shit. Where to begin? For one how can you tell someone’s political leanings through their dislike of a footballers game? I’m pretty politically left and I really admire MR for what he’s done off the pitch but his game also really frustrates me.
2600 posts and still not promoted!? I can totally see why. Is that a record on here? It must be up there. In the spirit of your hero loonster :
What's with the obsession of wanking yourself frothy over promotion on an internet forum, is your life that fecking empty that it's all you've got?
As for political leanings, it's pointless even answering that.
Another one in desperate need of the wanker emoji.
Another posting the same mindless bullshit on every thread, the only thing that changes are the names of the threads.
Have you noticed how the quality of threads has gone down the toilet this last 6 months or so? How so many posters don't even bother posting on the mains anymore, there's even a thread about the shocking state of things.
Of course not, you're too busy keeping count of posts and membership.
Don't drag me into your petty squabble with the other guy.
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what an absolute arsehole! At least Roonster is funny with it. You just sound like an aggressive contrary prat. I’d say you’re great fun at parties.
2698 posts and not promoted. I’m clearly not the only one who thinks your posts are totally shit.
Another one dishing out then getting bent when it comes back.
Still counting posts. Is it a hobby? I see you're doing the same thing with the other guy too.
Perhaps I should report you for the insult? Truth be told I've been reported for less.
See, I couldn't give a toss who likes what I'm saying, it's really not important. Chances are I've been marked for arguing with the likes of yourself.
Oh well, I'll live.
Well hard!Are you? I guess you've completed pornhub then.
Ok then tough guy
Cheers for the laughs. Nearly 3000 posts on here over 5 years but he doesn’t care about promotion… don’t kid yourself!
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You need to grow up mate.Ok then tough guy
Cheers for the laughs.
Oh the irony dripping off this post!
I thought the Ronaldo thread was a laugh when I seen that earlier, this beats it
Exactly and somehow these guys think they are reasonable with their criticism when they lie about the goals he scored, assists he made and then nonsense about him playing as a left winger as he is a failed striker
And then that Ali Dia posts, at least he justifies the name, lie, fake stats and then mental gymnastics.
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If United are to compete at the highest level, they need to provide Rashford one more year, if he shows consistency, fine, otherwise sell him off. Martial can be sold this year or next too.
How can’t people enjoy him I have no idea. The guy is 23 years old and can be viewed as high as our 2nd most important player or at the very least down to our 5th or 6th.
Thank god some of these fans including me are not managers. Salivating over average players or overrated players like crying out for Thiago alacantrA who did absolutely nothing in comparison to Rashford.
How many people were talking high of Odegaard before he came to the PL and suddenly you don’t get a single highlight of his name anymore. These fans make just as much mistakes as the people controlling the club - yet they luckily don’t get any blame.
People enjoy the good stuff but aren’t so blind to realise that he could be much better even if he was scoring and assisting less. Some people maybe don’t believe he is irreplaceable or the 2nd or best player because again it’s about how the team functions and that persons role in the team.
What makes it seem like he is hated is the ever growing strong reaction of each side to one another which seems to have gone past just Rashford.
Person 1: I’m not sure he’s an elite level player
Person 2: OMG you want kids to starve and are a Tory mental gymnastics mental gymnastics
Person 3: This thread is full of hatred!!
Person 2: OMG you want kids to starve and are a Tory
mental gymnastics mental gymnasticsPerson 3: This thread is full of hatred!!
Sad but true. I am siding with Person 1 only.Person 1: I’m not sure he’s an elite level player
Person 2: OMG you want kids to starve and are a Tory
Person 3: This thread is full of hatred!!
Again I didn’t mention anything about hatred.
I said I don’t understand how people don’t enjoy him.
The only way I could understand is that the lack of success as a club has gotten to some of our fans and are looking for changes that are not needed. You hear how a player like Rashford won’t make you win anything big - arguably coming in a season when players worse than him won the biggest titles.
The guy has weaknesses and has plenty of years to sort them out.
One minute people are blaming a lack of coaching at our club - then a couple weeks after starts questioning a young players decision making ability and saying that he isn’t good enough.
It’s just very confusing to me as I simply don’t get it.
Anyway, I personally don’t want to speak to a fan who doesn’t see Rashford as a useful player to United at the age of 23. I just don’t believe I see football in the same manner as them and will only end up getting a bit uneasy.
Blame Blame Blame because there is no Gain Gain Gain.
That's not true at allPerson 1: I’m not sure he’s an elite level player
Person 2: OMG you want kids to starve and are a Tory
Person 3: This thread is full of hatred!!
Person 1. He should stop feeding kids and concentrate of football, blah blah...Person 1: I’m not sure he’s an elite level player
Person 2: OMG you want kids to starve and are a Tory
Person 3: This thread is full of hatred!!
Person 2. So you think football is more important than children?
Person 1. Waah, starts hurling insults and sentences interspersed with laughter imojis.
Person 2.sigh, here we go again.
Person 1. Look at how bad this poster is,
I'm such a wind up.Btw, rashford is shit.
One thing I am so happy about is that the chances of Rashford leaving is very low - he will have to wind up the managers to get chucked out.
Hopefully that continues the irritating games and poor performances that I don’t see as much - hope it feels like an itch on the back that you just can’t reach whilst you watch every United game he plays for.
Werner wins a CL at the age of 25 whilst contributing to 14 goals in the PL and people question some of his inability.
Yet people say Rashford is shit and useless after scoring 11 and assisting 9 after being younger aswell?
Bloody Havertz won a CL with 4 goals and 3 assists in the PL yet people think Rashford has no bloody chance.
One minute they cry for a better manager - things you arguably see the contributing factors of - the next they are talking down the players instead.
A player that we got free is as good/contributing as much as 2 players worth over 120 million average together.
LOW IQ.
Hopefully that continues the irritating games and poor performances that I don’t see as much - hope it feels like an itch on the back that you just can’t reach whilst you watch every United game he plays for.
Werner wins a CL at the age of 25 whilst contributing to 14 goals in the PL and people question some of his inability.
Yet people say Rashford is shit and useless after scoring 11 and assisting 9 after being younger aswell?
Bloody Havertz won a CL with 4 goals and 3 assists in the PL
yet people think Rashford has no bloody chance.One minute they cry for a better manager - things you arguably see the contributing factors of - the next they are talking down the players instead.
A player that we got free is as good/contributing as much as 2 players worth over 120 million average together.
LOW IQ.
One thing I am so happy about is that the chances of Rashford leaving is very low - he will have to wind up the managers to get chucked out.
Hopefully that continues the irritating games and poor performances that I don’t see as much - hope it feels like an itch on the back that you just can’t reach whilst you watch every United game he plays for.
Werner wins a CL at the age of 25 whilst contributing to 14 goals in the PL and people question some of his inability.
Yet people say Rashford is shit and useless after scoring 11 and assisting 9 after being younger aswell?
Bloody Havertz won a CL with 4 goals and 3 assists in the PL
One minute they cry for a better manager - things you arguably see the contributing factors of - the next they are talking down the players instead.
A player that we got free is as good/contributing as much as 2 players worth over 120 million average together.
LOW IQ.
The level of vitriol and aggression from those "defending " Rashford is far far greater than those criticising. I dont really understand why that is. Theres obviously the odd nutter who says "he's rubbish" but thats not the majority by any means. Most see him as a useful - good player at the very worst but aren't convinced about him as an elite level footballer.
Yes Werner and Havertz have won trophies while being disappointing just as Djimi Traore has won a Champions League and Stephae Guivarc'h a World Cup. Its a perfectly valid discussion to have about him without people losing the rag altogether.
This obviously is not correct, having read this entire thread. It’s quite clear that most “defending” Rashford take the view that he is a good/very good player, who had a relatively poor end to the season and can improve.
The extreme views are nearly all on the side criticising him - when someone disagrees with them, usually swiftly followed by comments about how no one is allowed to be critical, references to one comment about tories etc. It’s classic misdirection.
The problem is that the people who criticize Rashford don’t do it in the best of ways. They do so under rubbish threads, or they maybe perfectly criticizing the player one post - 2 seconds later they are grouping up and saying ‘exactly’ to a person who calls Rashford shit or Rashbeck or a player that won’t get in to a top 6.
I can criticize Rashford to anyone - but I completely try to avoid myself from the bunch of people who think of him as useless - or even worse loving players who are a next level of average when playing for other teams but our players always seem shit to them.
As I said before - you can say whatever you want about his performances; but ultimately this thread was asking if he was an important player to United. The fact that he contributed to 20 goals to a team that scored 76 goals in the PL shows that he was more important to us than he is useless.
Again, plenty of ways to talk about him needing to improve - hell I don’t even mind people saying he may not be an elite level player because he may not be (perfectly fine with it because he can be a useful player) - yet watch out who you are grouped up with because they say some questionable stuff when putting our players down.
Literally not true at all but this thread has devolved into nothing but hyperbole and hysterics so it's par for the course I suppose
Stick to your own opinion. I will stick to mine. It is absolutely true. Now bye.
That's more than fine by me and you won't be branded a cultist or anything because opinions are by definition subjective and not objective 'truths'...
Sure mate. Apologies, if my reply seemed to be rude. We agree to disagree and roll on.That's more than fine by me and you won't be branded a cultist or anything because opinions are by definition subjective and not objective 'truths'...
Well I only have this thread and I haven't been posting for long so while the title may be OTT I was under the impression that it had sort of evolved into discussing the player and his effectiveness to the team.
I actually think theres an interesting topic here but its lost in the hyperbole.
For me we have a contradiction in the fan base, maybe even from the same fans actually, whereby 4 years without a trophy is deemed not good enough and by association the manager is deemed possibly not good enough either yet at the same time we need to be giving Rashford and the likes "time" to develop as players. Thats a big ask because unless you have absolute top quality surrounding the young players you want to develop you probably aren't going to be challenging for the biggest prizes until they do.
Personally as Ive said, despite being critical, I think a Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho front line could be immense for us. I also would take far greater pleasure out of winning something with younger players, home grown players and bought in young players along side the big signings.
This thread is a joke. Rashford is not going to be world class at the level of Ronaldo, Messi and Neymar etc but he has a hell of a lot to offer United. The boy is only 23 years old and already is a vital player for us and one that has contributed so much to the team on the field and the club as a image. Last season alone he had 20 goal contributions, all whilst clearly not being fit. He has not started for England because of these injuries yet he was so important to us, he played through the pain barrier last year. That tells me this kid loves playing for us and he gives 110% all the time. Before Rashford got injured in Feb 2020, he was developing beautifully, and was smashing teams away. He lost a lot of confidence with that injury and has clearly not improved since. I too get frustrated with him, he tries too hard, make the wrong decision but this guy lives and breathes our badge and you need players like that in the team. I hope thag after the Euros he gets an extended break to recover frok his injury. At just 23 he has played 200 plus games for us already and almost on 100 goals. You have to be foolish to even think he is just a cult, he is a boy wonder, a united fan and hopefully one day, a united legend. He did all of that without a real role model at the club which shows his level of maturity. Look at some of the greats like Ronaldo who had Giggs and Scholes with him, Messi who had Ronaldinho, Xavi, Puguol with him. United did not really have that stability during his younger years except Ibra who popped over for a season but Rashy was already established then. Maybe Rooney helped him a bit but i really believe that what he has accomplished and produced for us so far is exceptional and by no means a cult status. You should be embarrassed for thinking that and if you concluded that on last season alone, you have not watched him in the last 5 years. A great guy and player who I hope gets 500 plus games for us one day. Oh, he is also not even near his prime yet, what was Salah doing at 23, ask yourself that.
One of the main reasons why United is where it is, not being able to win anything in 4 years is because we have relied so much on limited young players like Rashford and Martial, thinking year after year that they will transform into young Rooney and Ronaldo for us. They might put their heart and soul for United, which they clearly don't, they are limited players with limited ability and can never win us anything on their own unlike Rooney and Ronaldo at their age.
I hope United sign Sancho and deploy him as left forward/winger and put Rashford on the bench and Martial on the plane.
https://www.goal.com/en/news/im-not...o-injury-struggles-/2k5usyz3rvra1j1xjrb3dnqr5
Bunch of poor fans questioning his injury problems - acting like he was physically at his best.
Bunch of poor fans questioning his injury problems - acting like he was physically at his best.