It still reeks of a contract plot. Highly doubt its happening given that Ramos has left as well.
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it's alleged the contract on the table is asking him to take a pay cut. Whats the contract ploy? To up the current offer back to his current wage?
Once it is reported on ESPN, the odds of the transfer happening is very high.
Maybe you're right. However does Real afford giving him that salary? Don't forget that this would cause a chain reaction were everyone will be asking for silly salaries in reaction to it. We've seen that happening with Sanchez. Can Real tank that?
Hirst:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...after-sealing-73m-jadon-sancho-deal-mzqhpk9nk
So the offer is to take a cut in pay, varane wants more than his current contract. If Real Madrid fold, they open the door to even worse financial pressures....and they want mbappe at some point. Does Madrid blow up their wage bill or cash in on him? only time will tell.
Varane was criticized for those mistakes, and would be criticized if he does something similar with us. What is your point?
Very trepitatious about this transfer. Can't put my finger on why but with ramos going this guy should be their main man in defence, not being asked to take a pay cut.
Is he actually good enough? Does he actually want to come or does he just want the money? Does a man who's won it all have the desire to compete and fight for united? I dunno, but we've been burnt by buying reals cast offs before.
Is he actually good enough? Does he actually want to come or does he just want the money? Does a man who's won it all have the desire to compete and fight for united? I dunno, but we've been burnt by buying reals cast offs before.
If Madrid are offering him a pay cut, it sounds to me like they are trying to engineer a transfer this summer. Maybe not a good sign and doesn’t fit the narrative that “they want to keep him so he must be good” but it’s Varane, he’s not an unknown entity and you very much know what you are getting.
Or it's just a sign that madrid's finances are almost as fecked as barca's and if they want big money players in the future, they'll need some sales and wage cuts?
Got to remember, barca and Real were desperate for the ESL because it gave them a new revenue base....Perez essentially said the whole point of the ESL was to stabilise and keep the big team going with their crazy fees and wages.
If we believe Hirst, then why did Madrid bring in Alaba on huge wages (12M Euros Net), unless what is reported as was Alaba wages are not true.
we know also that Modric extended with a pay cut, so it is not unusual for RM to offer new contracts with pay cuts, what is very strange is the huge salary given to Alaba.
This match for Varane was something similar of the Vidic vs Torres at Liverpool, he was horrible, but you just know it's very very rarely happening and what he brings on the table 99% of the time will redeem this 10 times.
Ffs it isnt Hartlepool ...he is leaving one of the great clubs for another. Besides people do like a change from time to time. Also apparently Rio was his idol so theres that.
Hirst is right up there with the top sources, if he's hearing about wage cuts, it's likely because that's what the club has been told in terms of why they think they can get him.
Regarding Alaba, because he was a free transfer? That always comes with inflated wages to entice the player.
I only watch Madrid in the CL but from what I've seen there they leave their CBs very exposed. He would get a lot more cover at Utd.
Don't want to sound too negative but the same could be said about Sanchez before we signed him I think. Still remember the caf was over the moon back then.
Or stopping your fart while pissing.
True. Regardless of their motive I want him here and I think we will get him too. Madrid will get £50m for him and will invest it where they feel they need to.
Sure but why not do that about any transfer. Every transfer is a risk, who do you see as less risky than Varane @ £50m?
Spanish clubs are skint, they want players to take pay cuts to counter the money the money they've lost during covid. Plus, Real are trying their best to get themselves in the right position to get Mbappe either this or next summer, he's going to want obscene wages and signing on fee too.
Perhaps the free transfer played a role in him getting that wage, I am not sure, Alaba is not a player that needs enticing to come to Madrid, He is good LB/CB, who can also play in midfield also, but he is no VVD level defender that you pay such a huge salary for.
I'm talking about the similarities between Sanchez and this deal. Both are quality for their current clubs, both looking for a last big contract.
This deal sounds even worse to me since Varane had won everything. Of course he would be great for us, who knows but truth is we should definitely worry about this deal if reports about the £400k wage are true.
Motivation and the characters of a player is very important, even more important than his talent imo. Someone has said in another thread that we've become the spice boys post Fergie once we stop checking the characters and motivation of the players we signed. And that's bang on imo.
Not really sure this is happening. We're obviously interested but I guess he'll stay at Madrid and just waits for an improved offer
Feels very like the Ramos thing all over again. I guess the one difference is that Real are so strapped for cash right now that they genuinely might not be able to offer him a pay increase, while also turning down a transfer fee. But I think a new contract at Real or him seeing out his contract altogether feel just as likely as a move to us.
Show me a player who hasn't had a shit game in their life.
They're trying to get multiple players to take pay cuts so they can sign Mbappe. Did you not see the story of Ramos calling everyone in the squad and telling them not to take a pay cut for that reason? They've gone mad.
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Surprised Perez doesn't expect them to work at Real for free, as it's an "honour to play for the white shirt of Madrid"
Longer contract with higher wages than he is currently on, given that this might be his last big contract extension.
Besides, I thought the Spanish duo were backed by government indirectly. How did they manage to go this skint.
Did they offer a pay cut the previous years too? The surprising thing is that the wage cut talks only come from England, I skeptical about these reports because they don't actually match with previous reports about contract offers.
Well that part isn't true.
If we can get him for about 40m then it's a good deal
https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/28/60b0b4d8268e3e9f528b4641.html
So as a group they rejected a cut, seemingly new contracts are being offered with one.
It doesn't answer the point about the contract offer made to Varane earlier that he also rejected. It's also not about future contracts but about current deals.
Why does length of contracts affect transfer fees except when we’re the interested party? If he does not sign an extension then anything more than 20mil is a reasonable.
If Varane is worth £50mil then how much is Pogba worth ? £100m?
If Varane is worth £50mil then how much is Pogba worth ? £100m?
He didnt reject it. The offer is still on the table and /varane can still sign it.
Its like the De Gea contract. The offer was given to De gea in July and he signed it in Sept. Otherwise, De Gea goes away on a free transfer.
Hope we are not being used again to get a Madrid player a better contract…..certainly wouldn’t be the first time….
I'm talking about offers made in 2019 and 2020.
Also wouldn't be the first time it would be mentioned in this thread either. It's very clearly not the case here. Could he stay at Madrid? He may well do so, but by all accounts, he's already rejected previous contract offers and Madrid may not be able to offer an improved contract given current circumstances.
All the power is in our hands.
Varane refusing to sign a new deal, Madrid desperate for cash and don't want to let another player walk for free.
They're obviously going to demand as much as possible, but i'm sure it'll eventually be settled closer to what we want than them.
I expect about £40m with 1 year left? thats more than fair.
Varane refusing to sign a new deal, Madrid desperate for cash and don't want to let another player walk for free.
They're obviously going to demand as much as possible, but i'm sure it'll eventually be settled closer to what we want than them.
I expect about £40m with 1 year left? thats more than fair.
Also I forgot to mention the article saying that he changed agent is wrong. His agent Bruno Satin is affiliated with CAA Base since 2018, I think.
Probably you're right. He might get tired living in Spain and playing for Madrid, while winning so many trophies. Playing for a struggling United and living in Manchester might appeal this 28 y.o. player.
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