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Think it may be time for Federer to call it a day I know Hurkacz is playing well (from my inexpert opinion) but peak Federer would be usually putting up a far stiffer challenge at least

I know he's done all that rehab but maybe his body can't cope any more

Announce it in front of the fans

I don't play tennis and only usually watch some of the men's matches at Wimbledon but would doubles be a bit easier for him?
 

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Think it may be time for Federer to call it a day I know Hurkacz is playing well (from my inexpert opinion) but peak Federer would be usually putting up a far stiffer challenge at least

I know he's done all that rehab but maybe his body can't cope any more

Announce it in front of the fans

I don't play tennis and only usually watch some of the men's matches at Wimbledon but would doubles be a bit easier for him?
It would be but I doubt Federer would entertain that idea. The pay is way less and the skill set is different than singles( though Federer has that skill set ) .
 

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It would be but I doubt Federer would entertain that idea. The pay is way less and the skill set is different than singles( though Federer has that skill set ) .
Ah that makes sense, thought it would mean a bit less extreme stretching/ running. Maybe he could just do a couple of games, go out on a high given he's got such a high skill set. Wonder if this problem he's been having all the rehab for was troubling him at the end
 

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I disagree. This is still early in his comeback and more tournaments and more tennis will get him back into rhythm. Physically I don't think there will be much difference between this year and next year. He lost because of some incredible unforced errors today. Play this match over tomorrow and he will still be favorite. Novak is of course a problem but he is not unbeatable no matter how good he is.
He's going to be a year older and accordingly, a year less effective. Combine that with the reality of Djokovic's dominance and a new crop of young players just hitting their prime, and the cost/benefit of Fed continuing to actually win Wimbledon will be a bit daunting. I say to actually win since I doubt he would stay on just to bow out in the fourth round next year.
 
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Credit to Hurkacz there. Applauding Federer off and realising that the crowd would want to show their appreciation to Federer rather than focus on him was mature.

He couldn't stop smiling about what he had done either :lol:
 

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Credit to Hurkacz there. Applauding Federer off and realising that the crowd would want to show their appreciation to Federer rather than focus on him was mature.

He couldn't stop smiling about what he had done either :lol:
I only really watch the Wimbledons mens games, so wasn't aware of him prior to this but he came across really well.
Unfortunately with all sportsmen and women re Roger, it's knowing when it's time to call it a day
 

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I genuinely believe he'll want to do it once actually in his 40's. But his timing is well off and a lot of that could be down to his fitness to get to the shot, if that's the case, there's logically no upside, if he just needs more game time, then maybe he can another few decent QF runs. But his win at the Aussie in 17' suggests he doesn't need this much game time to find his rhythm... if he'd played the Aussie this year, I'd say there's a big chance he'd retire after the US, but he didn't and I'm sure he'd like to play there just one more time.... which suggest he'd be on tour next year.
 

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Federer should play one more Wimbledon next year and announce he's retiring there. He's not winning any more Grand Slams that much is obvious but one last year on the tour to retire at 40 would be fitting.

His last set at Wimbledon can't be getting bageled by Hurkacz
 

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Hurkach is a such a gentle giant :)

Never thought he'd come back in form like this. I watched him in the Miami final which he won, and then he just dropped off. So these performances at Wimbledon are surprising, but great for him.

As for Rogie.... he needs a short rest and then if he still wants to play on, get out there and get his match fitness up.
 

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Federer should play one more Wimbledon next year and announce he's retiring there. He's not winning any more Grand Slams that much is obvious but one last year on the tour to retire at 40 would be fitting.

His last set at Wimbledon can't be getting bageled by Hurkacz
Good point.
 

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I genuinely believe he'll want to do it once actually in his 40's. But his timing is well off and a lot of that could be down to his fitness to get to the shot, if that's the case, there's logically no upside, if he just needs more game time, then maybe he can another few decent QF runs. But his win at the Aussie in 17' suggests he doesn't need this much game time to find his rhythm... if he'd played the Aussie this year, I'd say there's a big chance he'd retire after the US, but he didn't and I'm sure he'd like to play there just one more time.... which suggest he'd be on tour next year.
The difference is he didn't have two knee surgeries in 2017.

Boris Becker is correct, Roger should just continue for the rest of the year and if he's still not playing well, then call it a day.

He can't retire with a defeat in the set bagel defeat! :lol: Come on Roger!
 

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Federer should play one more Wimbledon next year and announce he's retiring there. He's not winning any more Grand Slams that much is obvious but one last year on the tour to retire at 40 would be fitting.

His last set at Wimbledon can't be getting bageled by Hurkacz
Agreed, especially the bolded.
 

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BBC can’t wait to retire Federer, he wasn’t good but he is still a good player..
 

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He's going to be a year older and accordingly, a year less effective. Combine that with the reality of Djokovic's dominance and a new crop of young players just hitting their prime, and the cost/benefit of Fed continuing to actually win Wimbledon will be a bit daunting. I say to actually win since I doubt he would stay on just to bow out in the fourth round next year.
It's not as linear as you make it out to be. Yes he will be older but if he stays injury free from now till then, I'd argue it's very likely he comes into next year's Wimbledon in better physical condition. He can easily make the quarters at such a specialist surface and he will back himself. If I was advising him I'd say take the Olympics off, play a couple tournaments before the US open and try to have a good run there. Next year announce its his final year and it can be his farewell tour in front of full crowds chanting his name. Yes its looking like he won't win another major but he will still back himself especially on grass.
 

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It's not as linear as you make it out to be. Yes he will be older but if he stays injury free from now till then, I'd argue it's very likely he comes into next year's Wimbledon in better physical condition. He can easily make the quarters at such a specialist surface and he will back himself. If I was advising him I'd say take the Olympics off, play a couple tournaments before the US open and try to have a good run there. Next year announce its his final year and it can be his farewell tour in front of full crowds chanting his name. Yes its looking like he won't win another major but he will still back himself especially on grass.
I think the only reason he would come back is (as another poster above mentioned) to not bow out in a 6-0 set at Wimbledon. He's clearly good enough to make the quarters and may do so again, but I doubt he's under any illusion that he could win at 40.
 

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Janowicz is number 514 atm, if anyone was wondering where's the last Polish player that reached Wimbledon SF before Hurkacz.
 

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Janowicz is number 514 atm, if anyone was wondering where's the last Polish player that reached Wimbledon SF before Hurkacz.
Oh wow, Jerzy Janowicz, what ever happened to him. Think he was one of the first generations who were gonna take over from the big 3.

Together with the likes of Raonic.
 

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Oh wow, Jerzy Janowicz, what ever happened to him. Think he was one of the first generations who were gonna take over from the big 3.
even after that Wimbledon semifinal, he simply couldn't beat anyone in GS for the next 2 years. he had plenty of injuries since 2015 but he was never really that good in the first place. when you're 2.04m tall and with good draw, there's always a chance to fluke it at Wimbledon somehow, which is what happened with him.

Gulbis was far more interesting case to me. his RG 2014 run was ridiculous, in particular matches with Fed and Berdych. he never really had dedication and that was obvious from the start but reminded me of Safin in those rare matches he turned up.
 

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even after that Wimbledon semifinal, he simply couldn't beat anyone in GS for the next 2 years. he had plenty of injuries since 2015 but he was never really that good in the first place. when you're 2.04m tall and with good draw, there's always a chance to fluke it at Wimbledon somehow, which is what happened with him.

Gulbis was far more interesting case to me. his RG 2014 run was ridiculous, in particular matches with Fed and Berdych. he never really had dedication and that was obvious from the start but reminded me of Safin in those rare matches he turned up.
Yeah Gulbis was insanely talented,but simply didn't give a feck. Doesnt he also have extremely rich parents or something?
 

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Hoping Shapo can make things competitive today and show a bit more composure on big points. Heart says a four or five setter but head says comfortable win for Djokovic. If he can just stay a little more patient he can cause problems for Novak.
 

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Hoping Shapo can make things competitive today and show a bit more composure on big points. Heart says a four or five setter but head says comfortable win for Djokovic. If he can just stay a little more patient he can cause problems for Novak.
Bookies offering pretty good odds on Shapo, having seen Novak so far in this wimby I’m not convinced that he can beat the Canadian, who has been showing great tennis so far and cut back on his errors greatly.
 

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As predicted before the tournament Berrettini was a lock for the final given his form and powerful serving. Shows why Novak was screaming his mouth off during that French quarter against him when he finally managed to break the Italian in that 4th set.
 

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Seems like this going to be a rather short run out for the Italian which is good as the following semi won’t be delayed and I’ll be able to catch most of it.
 

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Yes Berrettini threatening to run away with this.

Not the same Hurkacz that turned up the other day, but not been given the chance really.

I do think Berrettini getting through is the only chance of Djokovic getting a match in the final - assuming he beats Shapovalov.
 

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Whilst beating Federer at Wimbledon is impressive in amy circumstance, I think this isnt that surprising. Old man Federer is not near the level what Berretini has shown here.
 

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I think Shapo gets a set off Djokovic but will be surprised if he gets more than that.
 

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Have to give credit to some of the younger players even if they lose to Novak in the final. Medvedev was the form player from the next gen going into the AO and he reached the final. Tsitsipas was the best youngster on clay going into RG and he made the final and now Berrettini is the best grass court player of the younger players and he's in the Wimbledon final.
 

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Hope Shapovalov shows up. A new champion would be great, though I guess the new champion beating Djokovic in the final would be more special..