Oh do give it a fecking rest mate.
Final: Italy vs England
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Aye you can, but to earn that sort of treatment you probably need to make sure your posts don't look like they're pure wummery 99% of the time.
Win or lose tonight i think England's future looks bright. World Cup next year, the only team i think are threat to England (on paper) is France, Germany could be a threat, but these are the only countries i think England should be fearful of on paper.
I don't think any of the South American countries are strong enough right now or will be in the next 17 months, Belgium are on the way down and i think this is Italy's last hurrah.
So think semi-finals and finals could be a regular thing for England in the next 10 years *fingers crossed*
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Get lost. You've been wumming everyone the whole tournament then when called out you disappear.
You don't like England and want them to get beat. Fair enough. Just seems strange, and a bit pathetic, you've invested that much of your time into letting everyone know that. Then again you're not on your own.
See I would completely agree with this, but it's the nagging issue of Southgate's reluctance to actually change things that worries me.
Seen one person..
Here's my two cents. England can't play Italy's game. They need to beat them with quick tempo football and they need to harass every Italian player for the ball giving them little time to think. That's something Italy's team aren't used to. Their defence is tough but slow. Guys like Grealish, Sancho and Sterling can cause some real damage there.
Good point. Italy did seem knackered on the hour mark, much like Denmark.
England seemed pretty fresh and have a good range of options on the bench.
The same England that are usually an afterthought and inconvenience during the season. Would never swap a cl for today
Yeah I think he'll need to snap out of that tonight and use his bench proactively.
it’s a totally silly question to start with really.
but as a United fan, 1999 will likely never be topped. 2008 was great, but nowhere near the same.
tonight feels much bigger than Moscow to me. Perhaps it’s because I went to high semi’s and live in London?
how would it even work - do we all get in a machine and erase memories of 2008?
This is my worry as I said before I think whoever scores the first goal will win it..
I'm predicting a goal in the first 10 minutes.
In a one off game anyone can win.
Lets hope the officiating matches the importance of the event.
Lets hope the officiating matches the importance of the event.
I just can't see it. Against the Danes, it was 1 sub in 90mins in a game where they also heavily tired like many think the Italians will.
Fair fecks to Southgate so far, but this Italian side is a massive step up to what we've faced. I really hope he has the Plan B sorted this time!
May the best team win.
Can see Southgate is going to stack the XI with defensive players once again. It’s going to be extremely cagey and tactical, and Italy will nick a 1-0 victory. All the papers and fans will get on his back for not being more ballsy and utilising the attacking talent at his disposal.
Can see Southgate is going to stack the XI with defensive players once again. It’s going to be extremely cagey and tactical, and Italy will nick a 1-0 victory. All the papers and fans will get on his back for not being more ballsy and utilising the attacking talent at his disposal.
Let's hope so as I think all the tools are there to win tonight. It's just using them properly and at the right time!
Plan B : Bring on Grealish.
Plan C : Take off Grealish.
Plan C : Take off Grealish.
I think Italy will win, I just 'hope' for the spectacle England take them all the way and don't lose meekly
Unless we're going to throw caution to the wind and play all our technical players to try to pass them off the pitch (unlikely!) I can't think of a better plan tbh.
We can't 'Spain' them, certainly not with this manager anyway.
Basically, he's got all the tools, just needs to use them at the right time.
Oh I think so too, but you just never know in international football. It has been 55 years after all!
As for Italy it's just going to depend on whether they've got any decent young CBs that can step in. The rest of the team is fine.
Seeing a lot of confidence- win or lose today- for England at the next World Cup and i'm not sure about that. A lot of question marks remain for me: the manager and the defensive mentality, the 'luck' of the previous two competitions with the route to the final; it won't be at home next year either. The squad quality is very good though.
If Spain get their attack sorted they'll be a really tough team to face. Germany have a new manager too and Belgium might have one last chance to get it right.
If Spain get their attack sorted they'll be a really tough team to face. Germany have a new manager too and Belgium might have one last chance to get it right.
100% agree.
lots of ifs, but’s and maybes.
will be the same in the World Cup as it was in the Euros - England will be in the mix as one of at least half a dozen of teams that could win it. Form and luck play a part.
Jesus, one thing at a time!
Yeah I wonder if Southgate can get away with being so defensive in future tournaments, you could if you wanted to make a case that it being the first tournament for the likes of Grealish that that's why Southgate is being cautious with his team selection, how many more tournaments though are the likes of Grealish going to be content with such a limited role? Having so much attacking potential and not really using it has been weird, continually ignoring that talent isn't going to be sustainable long term
Italy have lost their last 2 Euro finals, so third time lucky? 
Even if Southgate wins tonight everyone in England will die eventually so it’ll probably go down as a low point in English football
Cheers mate. I can see it now…England win….I’m relieved as feck….stroll in tomorrow and the bloke introduces himself….”Hi I’m Dr Mario Gratziolli”
If it's a Mr. O'Brien you're done for!
Cheers. Yeah can somewhat understand that(Although there's no chance Ireland will get to a final). Even as a ''neutral'' it still seems like a massive game.
A lot of ifs and maybes, England have a young team and the world cup is only in 18 months. Germany and Spain haven't improved much from the last world cup.
Unless England get injuries or a really tough draw I think they'll go far in Qatar.
Well, Italy already lost 1 final today. What's another one.
100% agree with this.
Agreed.
Been a while since I saw an Italian and an English team play and not dislike either. Usually one or both are annoying.
Want England. Thinking Italy. Harry Kane to cower. Grealish with the winner
Want England. Thinking Italy. Harry Kane to cower. Grealish with the winner
How is that Italy’s fault. It is the officials fault so blame on them instead of Italy.
Going to love "she cannae take the strain capt" when it ends in tears.
That's what I think, going to be a borefest. England will nullify Italy's football like they did with Germany with United's classic zombie passing. In all honesty, zombie (side to side, backwards, wide, backwards) passing has been working superbly for England thus far.
I fecking hate Tiki-taka but I just saw signs particularly against Italy that they could be a horrible team to face when they get it right. Hope i'm wrong and they're still relying on Morata in 18 months.
Regarding today, it'll be interesting to see how both teams handle the atmosphere. England seemed nervy in the first half against Denmark but dominated the rest of the game. Wonder how Italy will cope.