Bebestation
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Same....could you envision a summer/winter transfer period that wasn't dominated by the Mino/Pogba storyline? If he truly wanted to be here I'd be the first to be saying that we needed to make it happen, but sadly, that isn't the case. Give him his move now and start working on a replacement...everyone will be better off and we could get someone who is chomping at the bit to be a Red Devil.Lump it in with the rest of the stuff. Just wish this saga comes to a close, either way, I'm tired of it.
He should indeed go to PSG with the other show ponies. Time to move on. You can’t build your team around a midfielder who doesn’t consistently score or create. Bruno’s impact gives the lie to everything that was said about it being impossible to make an impact on a squad like United’s. Pogba’s fun to watch sometimes but he ain’t a great midfielder. If he’s making the club a tonne of money commercially then I guess he can stay, like Beckham wasn’t sold at Real Madrid, but we all know that era was very unsuccessful on the pitch precisely because of those kinds of decisions.At this point I think the wisest option is to take the 50M and let him go, if reports are true we have offered him 350k a week and he didnt accept. Anything above that I think its too much. Also the fact that we havent been able to build a team around him for 5 seasons is concerning and now the team is build around Bruno.
We earn lot from our sponsers by keeping Pogba with us hence we are doing it, thats the reason we are really being tolerant to this guy and Ed supported him against JoseGood. That we're still throwing around wages like that for a player who cant consistently get in the team shows we're still run by clowns.
I think VDB/Bruno can play well with someone like Bissouma / Touchameni kind of player, Hope we get one of them if Carmaviunga is not coming to usI'd play Rice and VDB instead of MCT and Fred.
Sell Bruno?What about Mctominay / Fed / Pogba in 3-man modfield, can it be a success ?
Yes it could, and it would probably be the best midfield that Pogba has played in since getting here other than the brief Matic/Herrera/Pogba combo that had great success. Which is a sad indictment on the midfield during his time, as Fred-McTominay really isn't very good either. But they provide a solid base and Fred, despite what some say, does a half-decent job at building play out from deep which would mean Pogba wouldn't have to always drop deep to do it himself.What about Mctominay / Fed / Pogba in 3-man modfield, can it be a success ?
Nope, still got me. Are you saying Raiola has bummed us 7-8 times or just various agents have bummed us, lined up in front of Woody with their cocktract demands in their hands?Just read the previous posts then...
I’m not convinced Madrid can afford Pogbas salary. But I agree a straight swap is the best and fairest deal.PSG will try a final push for the CL trophy, while they still have Mbappe and Neymar. Adding Pogba, they are the most deadly offensive team ever.
RM has an golden opportunity to do a swap deal including Pogba. I think that what’s dragging out the Varane deal right now. RM has to agree personal terms with Pogba, and that’s difficult these days when RM try to cut wages.
Pretty sure Pogba leaves for RM or PSG; either swap with Varane or €50-60m. I’m happy if we get Varane or €50m for Pogba.
Best to sell him while we still get descent money for him. Not very fan of keeping him 3 more years on a very expensive contract.
How on earth is he holding the club to ransom?Once again we’ve been done over by a player running down he’s contract and holding the club to ransom. How hard can it be to offer new deal at 3 years left and if rejected start looking for a replacement and buy at year 2 and sell the player who wants to feck us about. Now he’s just gonna ask for a stupid amount and if he gets it he wins, if he don’t then some club gets him cheap and gives him what he wants and he wins. He ain’t done feck all at United apart from show glimpse of world class but then so has Greenwood!
No, quite the opposite. It was sarcasm. This notion that Pogba/Raiola keeps fecking us over is pure fantasy created to further push the narrative that Pogba is the bogeyman.Nope, still got me. Are you saying Raiola has bummed us 7-8 times or just various agents have bummed us, lined up in front of Woody with their cocktract demands in their hands?
Just like people overrate him because he looks good for France.People still underestimate him because they don't like him. He will be missed, no doubt. However, if we invest wisely, we can make up for that and, potentially, as a team be stronger.
PSG seems to be the only club who can afford him, and I would prefer we sell him then lose him for nothing.
You are probably fairly right on this, it makes the most sense.PSG will try a final push for the CL trophy, while they still have Mbappe and Neymar. Adding Pogba, they are the most deadly offensive team ever.
RM has an golden opportunity to do a swap deal including Pogba. I think that what’s dragging out the Varane deal right now. RM has to agree personal terms with Pogba, and that’s difficult these days when RM try to cut wages.
Pretty sure Pogba leaves for RM or PSG; either swap with Varane or €50-60m. I’m happy if we get Varane or €50m for Pogba.
Best to sell him while we still get descent money for him. Not very fan of keeping him 3 more years on a very expensive contract.
Pogba is better than Bruno and it’s not even a debate. There’s about 10 midfielders in Europe that could replace Bruno as many probably would say for Pogba. We aren’t talking about CR7 in both cases.So Pogba is better than Bruno? You'd sell Bruno if it meant keeping Pogba?
Well we will see if our results improve with Bruno that doesn’t have a Pogba in the team too.What the feck is that supposed to mean?
Its an absolute stone cold hard fact that our results have been better since Bruno arrived and he's had the consistent impact that many thought Pogba would have had for the 4 years prior
In 5 seasons Pogba has 38 goals for the club
In 1 and a half seasons Bruno has 40
Im sure someone who knows how to get the all comps stats can elaborate on this but in 1 and a half PL seasons Bruno has 19 assists, Pogba's only got 29 in 5
Pogba whether it's because he's been poorly coached or simply isn't clever enough cant dictate play from deep because he's never the one picking it up off of the CB's because he's too busy stood in space behind in the opposition attack and in front of their midfield and for the same reason can't play as a 10 because he doesn't know how to find the space behind the opposition midfield and in front of their defence. That equates to him being a massive luxury player
On his day Pogba's capable of the sublime and that's why it'll be tough to see him leave but the odd long range match winning goal against a West Ham/Burnley or Fulham really overshadow the much larger pool of games where he struggles to make an impact. Because of his capabilities of the sublime my heart says I want to see him for one more year this time with hopefully Varane behind him and Sancho ahead of him but my head tells me that actually won't make the difference I think it could
I changed it because you didn’t give me an answer. Stop trying to give the big balls. The evidence is thereYou changed it because your original post was nonsense.
Regards Kante or Pogba, I reckon if you did a survey of fans of the 18 PL clubs they don’t play for as to which player they’d rather have I’d be amazed if Pogba won 5 votes. He may not technically be a better player but having Kante in our team would improve us a hell of a lot more than Pogba does - same goes for every player I mentioned.
Has Bruno? I mean he consistently is nowhere to be seen in a big game. I can’t recall one Man City like performance that Pogba had, there’s also zero trophies to show for it whilst also arguably playing in a better team.Who offers more to their team? When Pogba was missing from the team, we actually missed nothing. In the 5 years, he has been with the club, he never had a season where he was performing like a top talent on a consistent basis. There are many players who offer much more to their team
It's only your subjective opinion which is not supported by any evidence, so I guess there is no point in debating indeed.Pogba is better than Bruno and it’s not even a debate. There’s about 10 midfielders in Europe that could replace Bruno as many probably would say for Pogba. We aren’t talking about CR7 in both cases.
We’ve got numbers, but hardly the quality. The central midfield was hardly good enough this season to mount a serious title challenge. How would losing one of the best players and replacing him internally fix anything?Isn’t VDB his replacement then? We got Bruno, Sancho Cavani Greenwood with Rashford, James, martial and amad as cover. Midfield is 2 of McT Fred garner matic mata VDB - 14 players for 6 positions and then there’s shoretire Hannibal etc.
Bruno Fernandes will never get a club as big as United ever in his life. He’s not good enough as a player.It's only your subjective opinion which is not supported by any evidence, so I guess there is no point in debating indeed.
That would be just perfect. Wonder if some fans will still adore him after that if it happens.He should hold out for Man City IMO. Whether that's this season or just walk out on a free next season.