Mainoldo
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Name them. Basically name 5 to replace him.On talent, probably not. But I don’t think it’s difficult to name 5 midfielders in the league that would be better for our team than him.
Name them. Basically name 5 to replace him.On talent, probably not. But I don’t think it’s difficult to name 5 midfielders in the league that would be better for our team than him.
McTominay scored 5 goals all comps. Pogba 7.He did though. Mctomminay scored 8 in all comps. Pogba scored 6.
Just read the previous posts then...Not sure where you’re coming from
Pogba got 6.McTominay scored 5 goals all comps. Pogba 7.
I mean did he score in Europe last year?
*Mctominay had 7
That’s not what you said, you said you can’t name 5 midfielders in the league better than him which I said may well be true in terms of talent.Name them. Basically name 5 to replace him.
One game. You could make a case for Tom Cleverley in his games against Arsenal just as easily that way. The statistics show he made a lot less passes than others. His passing statistics were very like Scott McTominays except of course he was playing at a much lower level. We got taken to the cleaners over van de Beek.Did you see him against Wolves and his last season at Ajax?
Good. That we're still throwing around wages like that for a player who cant consistently get in the team shows we're still run by clowns.One of the tabloids is running with a story that Pogba and Riola have rejected a £350,000 a week contract offer and they are determined to join PSG this summer.
What, from any team? Easy. Pick any of a few names from City, Liverpool and Chelsea and plenty from other sides as well. Hes nowhere near one of the top midfielders in the league. McTominay starts ahead of him on a regular basis.Name them. Basically name 5 to replace him.
He scored against LeipzigPogba got 6.
Well there you go. I only changed it because you said you couldn’t answer it. Using that famous talent word.That’s not what you said, you said you can’t name 5 midfielders in the league better than him which I said may well be true in terms of talent.
In terms of 5 midfielders in the league that would be better for our team; Kante, De Bruyne, Ndidi, Fabinho, Gundogan.
More than his worth. Behave yourself. We ain’t getting no midfielder better than him for years.
Bruno?Spot on.
Okay. You know your stuff.What, from any team? Easy. Pick any of a few names from City, Liverpool and Chelsea and plenty from other sides as well. Hes nowhere near one of the top midfielders in the league. McTominay starts ahead of him on a regular basis.
The less said the better.Bruno?
That’s not what you said, you said you can’t name 5 midfielders in the league better than him which I said may well be true in terms of talent.
In terms of 5 midfielders in the league that would be better for our team; Kante, De Bruyne, Ndidi, Fabinho, Gundogan.
Come on now. No way you can say Pogba is better than Kante and was better than him in the euros.Well there you go. I only changed it because you said you couldn’t answer it. Using that famous talent word.
Kante isn’t better than Pogba and we seen that in the Euros. Only De Bruyne.
Well Said, Under Ed our main motive was earning lot from sonsership deals and Pogba is 4th most marketabl;e player in the world, so no wonder we are tolerating so much in his caseIf you are a kid and an experienced manager like SAF tells you "have patience", the wise thing to do is to listen to him. If you don't listen to him and you go away, this is a clear indication of future problems. This was such a huge red flag, I still cannot understand why the club paid so much to bring him back. Blunder number one.
If you own an expensive player, you simply don't let him run into his last year of contract. You either sell him or extend long before that. Blunder number two.
Now we got ourselves in such a situation where the player holds all the cards. We can't blame him, it is gross mismanagement on our part. But it is certainly not a surprise that we constantly run into problems with this player, it was evident long time ago.
So Pogba is better than Bruno? You'd sell Bruno if it meant keeping Pogba?The less said the better.
You changed it because your original post was nonsense.Well there you go. I only changed it because you said you couldn’t answer it. Using that famous talent word.
Kante isn’t better than Pogba and we seen that in the Euros. Only De Bruyne.
Who offers more to their team? When Pogba was missing from the team, we actually missed nothing. In the 5 years, he has been with the club, he never had a season where he was performing like a top talent on a consistent basis. There are many players who offer much more to their teamWell there you go. I only changed it because you said you couldn’t answer it. Using that famous talent word.
Kante isn’t better than Pogba and we seen that in the Euros. Only De Bruyne.
Pogba's been available for buyers for at least 2 summers now if not 3. He hasn't done nearly enough at United to warrant the transfer fee we wanted or the wages he wanted. You do realise it's not a simple as you've made it sound don't you?Once again we’ve been done over by a player running down he’s contract and holding the club to ransom. How hard can it be to offer new deal at 3 years left and if rejected start looking for a replacement and buy at year 2 and sell the player who wants to feck us about. Now he’s just gonna ask for a stupid amount and if he gets it he wins, if he don’t then some club gets him cheap and gives him what he wants and he wins. He ain’t done feck all at United apart from show glimpse of world class but then so has Greenwood!
Our wage structure is a massive cause of all this. We’ve gave in far to many times and now paying the price. I think we should have let him gone and counted our losses as he’s been nothing but trouble and with he’s agent being a prat!Pogba's been available for buyers for at least 2 summers now if not 3. He hasn't done nearly enough at United to warrant the transfer fee we wanted or the wages he wanted. You do realise it's not a simple as you've made it sound don't you?
You're wrong again, Pogba by recent reports is currently on 250k a week, those aren't wages that potential suitors of Pogba couldn't match, the issue is the bump he wants, that's something quite obviously out of the clubs hands . Now if we were talking about De Gea or Sanchez then you'd have a point but not with PogbaOur wage structure is a massive cause of all this. We’ve gave in far to many times and now paying the price. I think we should have let him gone and counted our losses as he’s been nothing but trouble and with he’s agent being a prat!
Jorginho too.That’s not what you said, you said you can’t name 5 midfielders in the league better than him which I said may well be true in terms of talent.
In terms of 5 midfielders in the league that would be better for our team; Kante, De Bruyne, Ndidi, Fabinho, Gundogan.
What the feck is that supposed to mean?The less said the better.
You are taking that guy too seriously.What the feck is that supposed to mean?
Its an absolute stone cold hard fact that our results have been better since Bruno arrived and he's had the consistent impact that many thought Pogba would have had for the 4 years prior
In 5 seasons Pogba has 38 goals for the club
In 1 and a half seasons Bruno has 40
Im sure someone who knows how to get the all comps stats can elaborate on this but in 1 and a half PL seasons Bruno has 19 assists, Pogba's only got 29 in 5
Pogba whether it's because he's been poorly coached or simply isn't clever enough cant dictate play from deep because he's never the one picking it up off of the CB's because he's too busy stood in space behind in the opposition attack and in front of their midfield and for the same reason can't play as a 10 because he doesn't know how to find the space behind the opposition midfield and in front of their defence. That equates to him being a massive luxury player
On his day Pogba's capable of the sublime and that's why it'll be tough to see him leave but the odd long range match winning goal against a West Ham/Burnley or Fulham really overshadow the much larger pool of games where he struggles to make an impact. Because of his capabilities of the sublime my heart says I want to see him for one more year this time with hopefully Varane behind him and Sancho ahead of him but my head tells me that actually won't make the difference I think it could
Well I do have him on ignore so there must have been a reason even before that postYou are taking that guy too seriously.
French and a massive name, an absolute wet dream for their marketing, not to mention he's not a half bad baller eitherWhy do PSG even want him anyway?
If they play 3 at the back then he's not needed which is what I presumed Poch was going for with Hakimi.Why do PSG even want him anyway? Seems like they're stacked with so many CMs / #8 types. I assume they signed Wijnaldum to play the same role Pogba would play.
Verratti, Draxler, Paredes, Gueye, Danilo, Herrera, Wijnaldum, Pogba now. Marquinhos too if you count him as a DM.
If I were Poch I'd play this in the big games:
---------------------------- Donnarumma --------------------------
------------ Ramos -- Marquinhos -- Kimpembe ---------
--- Hakimi ------------------------------------------- Kurzawa ---
----------------------- Veratti --- Danilo ----------------------------
------ AdM ------------------------------------------ Neymar -------
---------------------------- Mbappe ------------------------------------
with Marquinhos stepping into the midfield as needed. There's no place for either Pogba or Wijnaldum in that line up. Veratti has to play and he needs legs next to him or the midfield gets overrun. You can't have a player like Pogba warm the bench in your most important games, so it's not clear where they're going with this.
Other choice seems suboptimal. Hakimi is best as WB. Both Ramos and Marquinhos like the RCB position. They can possibly pull it off against the weaker sides.
----------------------------- Donnarumma --------------------------
------- Hakimi -- Ramos --- Marquinhos -- Diallo ------
------------------------------- Danilo ------------------------------------
----------------------- Veratti --- Pogba ----------------------------
------ AdM ------------------------------------------ Neymar -------
---------------------------- Mbappe ------------------------------------