He can’t do it in the Prem? But you can’t name 5 CM’s in this league better than him.Pogba is lazy. He gives away cheap pens and free kicks. He can't mark a player. He loses concentration all the time.
No player is perfect.
Neves isn't someone I'm that bothered Bout signing but I don't see how we can possibly keep Pogba. If we give that guy 400k a week and his agent a big fat cheque too we need our heads checking.
Get rid. He can't do it in the PL. He hasn't got it in him.
Neither do I see Rodgers letting Tielemans go.Well if we are going to do that let’s get a best in class like a Tielemans. Neves can’t even get a game for his country. Bruno got dropped and they went for 34 years old Moutinho.
I don’t think we need another rotation player either. Hojbjerb would also be a better option. Just don’t see Nuno letting him go.
Exactly this. Fred for sure isn't top tier, but we won't change a whole team overnight. If the rumors are true, and we can get Sancho, Varane and DM, it already is a brilliant summer. If Pogba is the required sacrifice then so be it.Perhaps. Perhaps not. In theory we'd want the DM to be providing most of that, while Fred plays more the Kante/Gattuso style of harrier and destroyer. We may still be able to improve on him further in 12 months time, but in the meantime we 'should' have a better midfield than the McFred combo that mostly got us to 2nd last season or any of the inconsistent midfields we've had with Pogba.
Of course it relies on signing the right player.
I think he would build and boat and try and travel her himself for that wage. He ain’t ever getting that in his life.Hey Goretzka , fancy 350 week ?
Well either way we shall see. I hope he moves. I just hope it’s Arsenal and not us (Just my personal view) But will be interesting to watch.Neither do I see Rodgers letting Tielemans go.
Obviously we’re not even sure how credible these Neves reports are but if we do sign him it will definitely be because it’s a risk worth taking at his quoted price.
There was a time when Tielemans wasn’t getting into the Belgium starting 11 either. He was on the fringes how Neves is. And even he was bought at a similar price by Leicester if I’m not wrong and there wasn’t much competition for him either.
So you never know my friend. Neves may turn out to be a good investment if he fits in well. I think his general play dropped a couple levels in correlation with Wolves’ perform levels this past season or so. In a more progressive team like ours, he may perform better.
I'd play Rice and VDB instead of MCT and Fred.Where’s our central creativity coming from? VBD don’t play.
Yeah don’t get me wrong I’m not his biggest fan or saying we choose him over others but at his price he may only be the type of player we can afford this summer. In this particular scenario I’m all for it.Well either way we shall see. I hope he moves. I just hope it’s Arsenal and not us (Just my personal view) But will be interesting to watch.
Tielemans failed at Monaco but he was very young. He’s been continuing to improve ever since but he did have a very poor Euros.
Im all for that. Very good midfield! Not many on here rate Rice though for some reason.I'd play Rice and VDB instead of MCT and Fred.
The problem you have though is you can't differentiate between the player he should be and the player he actually is for us. On paper he's one of the best players in the world. On the pitch he rarely is. How can a player with his ability not have even been named Utd player of the season once in 5 years?He can’t do it in the Prem? But you can’t name 5 CM’s in this league better than him.
I don’t care if he stay or goes or what he gets. Not my money.
I’m concerned about how we replace him. We still don’t seem to see the glaring wholes in our midfield. We are looking to replace him with sh*ter versions of himself.
But what you say isn’t true is it. It’s just a running annoying narrative. I mean McTominay didn’t even outscore him. But I get the running theme. I just tend not to agree.The problem you have though is you can't differentiate between the player he should be and the player he actually is for us. On paper he's one of the best players in the world. On the pitch he rarely is. How can a player with his ability not have even been named Utd player of the season once in 5 years?
You talk about him being this incredible player who we will struggle to replace. I don't see it that way at all.
Scott Mctomminay outscored him last season ffs despite Pogba playing a fair bit off the left.
Pogba hasn't done it consistently in a Utd shirt and you find it incredibly hard to admit it.
Interesting take. Wonder what @JPRouve thinksIMO he does all these brilliant moments for us too.
People just notice it more with France than with us.
And similarly, they notice his problems off the ball with United while tend to ignore it when it happens to France.
Pogba is the same player regardless. A great player on the ball but once you lose it you might as well be playing with 10 men.
Why, cos they’re a plastic club?If he's gonna go, PSG are probably the only place that I could come to terms with very quickly.
He would if it meant keeping his place in the French team. Deschamps may rate him but he isn’t going to play him if he’s not giving 100% at club level. No one can turn in on and offNot sure who United would be selling if they did sell Pogba, but it's definitely not the version that plays for France.
£50m goes a long way right now - and if he's set on running his contract down, I can't see him giving £50m worth of effort in the last season.
He is pretty much the same player for France and United. The roles are slightly different but his strength and weaknesses are the same and as visible.Interesting take. Wonder what @JPRouve thinks
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Do the French supporters also feel that he could or should be replaced and a midfield be built differentlyHe is pretty much the same player for France and United. The roles are slightly different but his strength and weaknesses are the same and as visible.
Is he a Utd fan? fecking hell
For years people did but the addition of talent made it obvious that focusing on Pogba was silly.Do the French supporters also feel that he could or should be replaced and a midfield be built differently
Kimmich's best attribute is him being all round midfielder that he can do both attack and defense equally good with incredible work rate and stamina, he's pretty much Goretzka but better in taking corner, crossing and passing than Goretzka but Goretzka is better in scoring goals and physically than him but both are all rounder midfielder with incredible stamina and work rate, more like hybrid midfield. Kimmich doesn't win lot of tackles like Kante or Ndidi and he is not a sitter who relies on his positioning like Matic either. In fact, his positioning is not his best attribute because he doesn't sit. Kimmich is not a DM.What’s his attributes? You say all round midfielder but what is he best at? (Kimmich)
Matic and Kante interchanged. The point I’m getting at his what they offer to the team.
He did though. Mctomminay scored 8 in all comps. Pogba scored 6.But what you say isn’t true is it. It’s just a running annoying narrative. I mean McTominay didn’t even outscore him. But I get the running theme. I just tend not to agree.
KDB is a better player than Pogba, I'm one of Paul's supporters but I wouldn't say any different.KDB in the PL has been a far better player. I think we tend to be in denial because he plays for City. He runs at a defence far better and more consistently than Pogba which is why he's consistently in the PL teams of the season over the last few years.
I'd be sorry to lose Pogba but we can't sit here and cry about it anymore.
Oh thank Lord. Make it happen.One of the tabloids is running with a story that Pogba and Riola have rejected a £350,000 a week contract offer and they are determined to join PSG this summer.
Not sure where you’re coming fromPretty weird to lie about it happening another half dozen times then.
On talent, probably not. But I don’t think it’s difficult to name 5 midfielders in the league that would be better for our team than him.He can’t do it in the Prem? But you can’t name 5 CM’s in this league better than him.
