Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber
Thus says Kemo
They don't understand the concept of pre seasonDon’t get why people are crying, the team won’t even look like this against Everton in a couple of weeks, we’ll have the first team back for Leeds.
They don't understand the concept of pre seasonDon’t get why people are crying, the team won’t even look like this against Everton in a couple of weeks, we’ll have the first team back for Leeds.
Ah, this myth again.Nope. All would play above that level with clarity and coaching, which every player we sell shows time and time again: Lingard for West Ham, Sanchez, Darmian, and Young for Inter, Smalling for Roma, and so on. They don't play well because they don't know what to do when on the pitch.
Yep our first XI will play to the death again I think.It's clear we lack squad depth. The current backup squad can't beat a championship side. Yet we will need to rely on them over a 60+ game season?
We aren't ready to challenge on all fronts. That's obvious now.
https://www.sportekz.com/football/manchester-united-players-salaries/amp/Williams isn't on that much. Pereira probably is considering his squad status when he signed his last contract.
Our squad is not that good to finish second in the toughest league in the world if they were not to know what to do on the pitch. It's down to less pressure, playing for a team which suit their style more and easier league imo. It works for some and doesn't for some, like Schneiderlin, Pereira, Fosu Mensah etc.Nope. All would play above that level with clarity and coaching, which every player we sell shows time and time again: Lingard for West Ham, Sanchez, Darmian, and Young for Inter, Smalling for Roma, and so on. They don't play well because they don't know what to do when on the pitch.
Was talking about the previous game. The 2 misses I mentioned were in today's game(including the one you mentioned).No he wasn't? Hugill was played in by Elanga in the 90th min in the last play of the game...
Ehh, lets see. I wouldnt hold my breath.He is 17. He has no business 'having a place' in our squad for at least 3 seasons
Only? If all four end up having a career here that would be an amazing success rate.I really don't think many of our young players have a future here. Probably only Amad, Elanga, Pellistri and Mejbri to be honest.
Also what an absolute joke that we still have Peireira here stinking up the place.
thought I read they were underway in training a bit earlier somewhere.This was QPR's second game.
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/catch-all-the-pre-season-action-090721/
I would say this is our backup 11 :It's clear we lack squad depth. The current backup squad can't beat a championship side. Yet we will need to rely on them over a 60+ game season?
We aren't ready to challenge on all fronts. That's obvious now.
@Amadaeus?Where is the pochetino guy that says we have a better squad than man city
It feels like most of what you contribute on here is slightly snidy remarks about posters and posts that seemingly work against your own perception of reality. That doesn't really add much to the debate, actually it only triggers other responses on the same kindergarden-level.Ah, this myth again.
Moyes is better than Ole and that's why Lingard is doing better? Is that what you are saying?Nope. All would play above that level with clarity and coaching, which every player we sell shows time and time again: Lingard for West Ham, Sanchez, Darmian, and Young for Inter, Smalling for Roma, and so on. They don't play well because they don't know what to do when on the pitch.
It's a bullshit claim, debunked numerous times, posted by a chronic moaner. I'm giving it the only response it deserves.It feels like most of what you contribute on here is slightly snidey remarks about posters and posts that seemingly work against your own perception of reality. That doesn't really add much, actually it only triggers other responses on the same kindergarden-level.
Where is the pochetino guy that says we have a better squad than man city
Our squad is not far of from City. City has a strong first 11 and so do we, but their bench and reserve isn’t much better than ours. I rather have the likes of Diallo, Pellestri, mejbri, Elanga, Tuanzebe, shoretire, garner, williams, laird, mengi, and levitt in our squad than what City has. I did not even account for the more experienced fringe player like Lingard, vdb, Henderson, Peirera and so on. So our squad is not worse than city on paper. But, obviously City are much better coached.
A lot of those salaries look out of whack. AWB on 120k when he was earning 10x less than that at Crystal Palace? Telles on 150k when he was on like 3x less than that at his previous club? DVB on 170k?Yep our first XI will play to the death again I think.
https://www.sportekz.com/football/manchester-united-players-salaries/amp/
Our squad is not that good to finish second in the toughest league in the world if they were not to know what to do on the pitch. It's down to less pressure, playing for a team which suit their style more and easier league imo. It works for some and doesn't for some, like Schneiderlin, Pereira, Fosu Mensah etc.
He only played 15 minutes not because he was horrible but because we also wanted to give minutes to Hannibal. And Hugill is the furthest from the first team so he was swapped out.Was talking about the previous game. The 2 misses I mentioned were in today's game(including the one you mentioned).
Ehh, lets see. I wouldnt hold my breath.
Delusonal.You would think that some of our fringe players will use this opportunity to make a push into the first team. or perhaps we are truly over reliant on individual talent.
Our squad is not far of from City. City has a strong first 11 and so do we, but their bench and reserve isn’t much better than ours. I rather have the likes of Diallo, Pellestri, mejbri, Elanga, Tuanzebe, shoretire, garner, williams, laird, mengi, and levitt in our squad than what City has. I did not even account for the more experienced fringe player like Lingard, vdb, Henderson, Peirera and so on. So our squad is not worse than city on paper. But, obviously City are much better coached.
If United don't win 5-0 without the other side having a single chance then it's basically the end of the world.preseason friendly meltdown
Agreed, we only finished 8 points from Leicester City. That's not too far offOur squad is not far of from City.
Feels so assuring, that we have people guarding law and order at this place.It's a bullshit claim, debunked numerous times, posted by a chronic moaner. I'm giving it the only response it deserves.
Absolutely. I don't understand all this negativity now. This is a pre season match. The transfer window is still open. He needs to get them to play.Granted the result wasn't great but Ole needs to have a look at all these fringe players and youth players to know which ones he needs to send out on loan or sell, will be more interesting when a few more senior players are back.
Over DDG or Henderson?-Heaton
Yea, I bet you are the same fan that taught Lingard, Depay, adm, Lukaku and so on was shite, until they went to other club and prove you wrong. we have a lot of talent in our squad, and with a better manager they will see significant improvement. A good manager can make these players we have play beyond their level, not just the established stars we have already.Delusonal.
Get over to Paris, you'll be much happier there.
Have at em. Fecking idiots.It's a pre-season friendly and you barely had any first teamers, results are irrelevant.
That being said, I am asking for permission from the sensible Man United fans to wind up the idiots who are moaning about the result. You know they deserve it!
Agreed the VDB 170k Telles 150k seem not true. Most sources say VDB 120k, Telles 80-100k.A lot of those salaries look out of whack. AWB on 120k when he was earning 10x less than that at Crystal Palace? Telles on 150k when he was on like 3x less than that at his previous club? DVB on 170k?
Additionally, a lot of those wages include bonuses which is why I'm confident Williams doesn't earn that full amount.
I think one of them will be sold. Atleast one of them should be considering the wages they are on and I dont think either one wants to be #2 next season.Over DDG or Henderson?
Because some folk are too dumb and don’t understand the concept of what pre-season is supposed to be about.I saw PNE of the championship beat Stoke of the PL in a pre season friendly once, PNE were relegated to league one that season.
Why are people losing their shit? It means nothing.
He’s on just over £20k a week. No idea where you’re getting north of 60k.Agreed the VDB 170k Telles 150k seem not true. Most sources say VDB 120k, Telles 80-100k.
Anyway do a google search on Williams weekly wage and you'd see. I also found an article:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brandon-williams-sees-wages-rocket-22467794
Last year Williams was reportedly on 40-43k a week so imo it's true that this year he's on ~60k.
Eh?It's clear we lack squad depth. The current backup squad can't beat a championship side. Yet we will need to rely on them over a 60+ game season?
We aren't ready to challenge on all fronts. That's obvious now.
OK, but that said we can still see that Tuanzebe and Mengi are nowhere good for being our CB backups. We need to sign Varane ASAP, making Lindelof our backup.Because some folk are too dumb and don’t understand the concept of what pre-season is supposed to be about.
Hang on. hang on, hang on.Nope. All would play above that level with clarity and coaching, which every player we sell shows time and time again: Lingard for West Ham, Sanchez, Darmian, and Young for Inter, Smalling for Roma, and so on. They don't play well because they don't know what to do when on the pitch.