Manchester United sign Raphael Varane! (not in time for Leeds)

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I feel CBs peak later. We got Vidic at 25, and say his best from about 26-32. Rio was high-end until about 35, and had multiple great years past the age of 28 despite playing an insane amount of games from the age of 18 on.
Probably explains why Ole is hopeful regarding Phil Jones then.
 

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How is that the best weak consensus when Real asked players to take paycut? l'equipe is not spanish mate, you told me the 10m is from spanish media.

Weak was an autocorrect misspelling. I meant general.

I never said l'equipe was Spanish. Those were two different sources giving similar figures.
 

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Weak was an autocorrect misspelling. I meant general.

I never said l'equipe was Spanish. Those were two different sources giving similar figures.
You said the spanish media was the one reported 10m p/y.
I really don’t need anything to suit arguments. I’ve never seen this mentioned beforehand d the same source you used has also written he doubled his wages at United. Almost all Spanish media has reported similar, about £10 mill per year after taxes.
And then you said l'equipe is the one reported it. But they are not spanish media. So which one?
The general consensus seems to be that he doubled his salary and it is now somewhere around 10 millions after taxes. This was also reported by l'equipe

Like I said before, if you are neutral, you don't choose. You wait until it's official confirmed. But you are being picky on the number that suits your argument.
 

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You said the spanish media was the one reported 10m p/y.


And then you said l'equipe is the one reported it. But they are not spanish media. So which one?



Like I said before, if you are neutral, you don't choose. You wait until it's official confirmed. But you are being picky on the number that suits your argument.
I said l'equipe (from France) reported that he doubled his salary and that similar was reported from Spanish media.
 

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I said l'equipe (from France) reported that he doubled his salary and that similar was reported from Spanish media.
They didn't. See below to see who is reporting the double salary. It's your choice to choose.

 

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Are you seriously suggesting Varane signed for you for 190k per week (gross)? :lol:
Or are you confusing before and after tax as is regularly done when juggling with reports between Spanish and English media.
 

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They didn't. See below to see who is reporting the double salary.

Not in this tweet but they have reported it before. Would also not be surprised if they also forgot that Spanish media always report salaries after taxes.
Are you seriously suggesting Varane signed for you for 190k per week (gross)? :lol:
Or are you confusing before and after tax as is regularly done when juggling with reports between Spanish and English media.
This is most likely the case. I’ve seen many English media use Spanish media as source but forgot the after tax thing.
 

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Not in this tweet but they have reported it before. Would also not be surprised if they also forgot that Spanish media always report salaries after taxes.
If I don't see it then I can only say you just made it up to suits your argument. Can't blame me for saying this.
 

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Are you seriously suggesting Varane signed for you for 190k per week (gross)? :lol:
Or are you confusing before and after tax as is regularly done when juggling with reports between Spanish and English media.
His wages at Real Madrid was 150k p/w. Onda Cero said Real wanted players to take pay cut. Again, we can't really trust any numbers that appear but if someone chose to believe with 350k-370k/w then why can't they/we believe 190k/w if Real wanted their players to take paycut. This 190k/w could just be without bonus which means same one as Maguire. The bonus could be by winning UCL or PL.

https://realmadridlatestnews.com/real-madrid-players-wages/
 

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His wages at Real Madrid was 150k p/w. Onda Cero said Real wanted players to take pay cut. Again, we can't really trust any numbers that appear but if someone chose to believe with 350k-370k/w then why can't we believe 190k/w if Real wanted their players to take paycut.

https://realmadridlatestnews.com/real-madrid-players-wages/
What metric are you using? If you write 150k per week, that implies pounds and before tax. And then surely you realize that's nonsense. Spanish reports always deal in net wages.
 

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If I don't see it then I can only say you just made it up to suits your argument. Can't blame me for saying this.
You just posted a tweet saying he would double his salary from 5.5 to around 10 millions. That corresponds to roughly £300 000 p week before tax.
 

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What metric are you using? If you write 150k per week, that implies pounds and before tax. And then surely you realize that's nonsense. Spanish reports always deal in net wages.
If you actually look at the website, it shows Hazard on 416k p/w. I think it speaks enough what is that 150k p/w means.
 

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You just posted a tweet saying he would double his salary from 5.5 to around 10 millions. That corresponds to roughly £300 000 p week before tax.
But the one who reported double salary is not l'equipe. You told me l'equipe reported it too. So why don't you just show it to us where is this report from l'equipe, otherwise I can only say you just made it up to suits your argument. Can't blame me for saying this.
 

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If you actually look at the website, it shows Hazard on 416k p/w. I think it speaks enough what is that 150k p/w means.
I don't care about this trash website, surely you realize these are not realistic or accurately assembled numbers.
 

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I don't care about this trash website, surely you realize these are not realistic or accurately assembled numbers.
I don't trust 190k/w but I also don't trust 350k-370k/w. Why pick the number that suits poster's argument?
 

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Are you seriously suggesting Varane signed for you for 190k per week (gross)? :lol:
Or are you confusing before and after tax as is regularly done when juggling with reports between Spanish and English media.
It was really saying either. What I was saying is that he turned down a more lucrative wage and package from Madrid to come to United.
 

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But the one who reported double salary is not l'equipe. You told me l'equipe reported it too. So why don't you just show it to us otherwise I can only say you just made it up to suits your argument. Can't blame me for saying this.
Yes they have reported it too. I don’t find the original article but a quick google and you have others who use them as source. One example (from Inside Futbal, first hit out of many):

“…according to French sports daily L’Equipe, he will almost double his wages if he joins the Old Trafford outfit “
 

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Yes they have reported it too. I don’t find the original article but a quick google and you have others who use them as source. One example (from Inside Futbal, first hit out of many):

“…according to French sports daily L’Equipe, he will almost double his wages if he joins the Old Trafford outfit “
Link please. I googled it, couldn't find it.

 

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Its quite likely 190k/week (10m/year) in wages and another several million based on loyalty bonus/image rights/CL qualification etc.

Most contracts have that.. who cares what he's on.. its not an unsustainable crazy amount ... that's all I care about
 

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Difficult to believe why the rival fans on here are so salty regarding this deal.
 

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Difficult to believe why the rival fans on here are so salty regarding this deal.
The amount of fans that suddenly think that Varane is crap is staggering. The saltiness towards United at the moment is really a joy to behold.
 

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So if one source reported two different number, why do you still prefer to choose the number instead of being neutral by not mentioning it at all? Is it because one suits your argument more?
Every other source I have seen has also reported much higher salary than 190.
You yourself even posted one that claimed 300 k per week.
 

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What are my arguments?
I mean someone gave you a tier 1 source and your doubt still appeared stronger than that, so I don’t think anything less than Varane’s actual contract would convince you otherwise, but you knew that already before you engaged me.
 

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Difficult to believe why the rival fans on here are so salty regarding this deal.
You should see them on Twitter, especially Gunner fans trying rationalize spending much more on a CB from Brighton than a 4x CL winner to themselves :lol:
 

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I mean someone gave you a tier 1 source and your doubt still appeared stronger than that, so I don’t think anything less than Varane’s actual contract would convince you otherwise, but you knew that already before you engaged me.
The tier 1 source said he doubled his salary.
But you said it doesn’t suit my arguments. What are my arguments? That Varane deserves more than 45% of DDG’s salary?
 

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The tier 1 source said he doubled his salary.
But you said it doesn’t suit my arguments. What are my arguments? That Varane deserves more than 45% of DDG’s salary?
Your thinking seems to be that he only came to United for the money.

That's not correct.
 

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Your thinking seems to be that he only came to United for the money.

That's not correct.
I think he wants a challenge or a change and all that, but money was one very important factor. Unless he’s different compared to everybody else.

But you can’t say what correct or not, as nobody but Varane knows about that.
 
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