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He's won 4 UCLs, including a hatrick. So the France team gave him the nickname.I'm out of the loop on this one, what does this CL Varane mean?
He's won 4 UCLs, including a hatrick. So the France team gave him the nickname.I'm out of the loop on this one, what does this CL Varane mean?
In the full clip, during the 2018 world cup, Pogba is doing this chant for all of the players in the france team.I'm out of the loop on this one, what does this CL Varane mean?
Quite the lengthy statement that one.Tweet
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Varane hugged Odriozola yesterday
The Press said he will fly TomorrowHas he flown into Manchester yet?
Nothing. Just his nickname in the French squad because he has won 4 champions leagues.I'm out of the loop on this one, what does this CL Varane mean?
Pretty sure Fergie would've snapped up Varane without any hesitation if such an opportunity presented itself. It's a different era, players in the last year of the contract, running their contracts down, are a new kind of a value in the market signings that top clubs will continue to exploit. Next, Mbappe/Pogba.Previously these type of signings are everything I was opposed to. Sighing older players from other top clubs, where they've already won everything and become synonymous with their previous club. Fergie rarely, if ever, made these signings, because he wanted hungry players that could make a name for themselves with us by winning trophies. I loved that and was always vocal about it when linked with these signings post Fergie. City and Liverpool now take that approach even if they do pay big fees.
These days I feel like we're so far gone down the road, Fergie's instilled principles have long gone. But I only just thought about this now which shows how the last few years have brought on this indifference towards what we do. There have always been the opposite camp who salivate over blockbuster names and Real Madrid/Barcelona legends coming here. Personally I've never been a fan. Give me a Vidic type sighing any day of the week.
This.Pretty sure Fergie would've snapped up Varane without any hesitation if such an opportunity presented itself. It's a different era, players in the last year of the contract, running their contracts down, are a new kind of a value in the market signings that top clubs will continue to exploit. Next, Mbappe/Pogba.
Varane isn't leaving because he's burnt out, but Madrid is not looking like a great place to be at the moment, on the other hand PL is very attractive and he seemingly genuinely wanted to join United.
I'm surprised. Thats just not true. Fergie did both, buy talent and go for world class players. Fergie bought Cantona, Sheringham, Stam, Veron, Van Der Saar, Blanc (who turned out to be a failure), Barthez, Van Persie, Henrik Larsson (loan) etc. He also tried to get a fair few in which failed. These players had all made a big name for themselves before coming to United.Previously these type of signings are everything I was opposed to. Sighing older players from other top clubs, where they've already won everything and become synonymous with their previous club. Fergie rarely, if ever, made these signings, because he wanted hungry players that could make a name for themselves with us by winning trophies. I loved that and was always vocal about it when linked with these signings post Fergie. City and Liverpool now take that approach even if they do pay big fees.
These days I feel like we're so far gone down the road, Fergie's instilled principles have long gone. But I only just thought about this now which shows how the last few years have brought on this indifference towards what we do. There have always been the opposite camp who salivate over blockbuster names and Real Madrid/Barcelona legends coming here. Personally I've never been a fan. Give me a Vidic type sighing any day of the week.
The two posters below have nailed it;Previously these type of signings are everything I was opposed to. Sighing older players from other top clubs, where they've already won everything and become synonymous with their previous club. Fergie rarely, if ever, made these signings, because he wanted hungry players that could make a name for themselves with us by winning trophies. I loved that and was always vocal about it when linked with these signings post Fergie. City and Liverpool now take that approach even if they do pay big fees.
These days I feel like we're so far gone down the road, Fergie's instilled principles have long gone. But I only just thought about this now which shows how the last few years have brought on this indifference towards what we do. There have always been the opposite camp who salivate over blockbuster names and Real Madrid/Barcelona legends coming here. Personally I've never been a fan. Give me a Vidic type sighing any day of the week.
Pretty sure Fergie would've snapped up Varane without any hesitation if such an opportunity presented itself. It's a different era, players in the last year of the contract, running their contracts down, are a new kind of a value in the market signings that top clubs will continue to exploit. Next, Mbappe/Pogba.
Varane isn't leaving because he's burnt out, but Madrid is not looking like a great place to be at the moment, on the other hand PL is very attractive and he seemingly genuinely wanted to join United.
I'm surprised. Thats just not true. Fergie did both, buy talent and go for world class players. Fergie bought Cantona, Sheringham, Stam, Veron, Van Der Saar, Blanc (who turned out to be a failure), Barthez, Van Persie, Henrik Larsson (loan) etc. He also tried to get a fair few in which failed. These players had all made a big name for themselves before coming to United.
If anything, Ole's tenure has been the closest to the Fergie principles as we ever had. Sometimes I get the impression that he is trying to be Fergie Lite!
Well said.I'm surprised. Thats just not true. Fergie did both, buy talent and go for world class players. Fergie bought Cantona, Sheringham, Stam, Veron, Van Der Saar, Blanc (who turned out to be a failure), Barthez, Van Persie, Henrik Larsson (loan) etc. He also tried to get a fair few in which failed. These players had all made a big name for themselves before coming to United.
If anything, Ole's tenure has been the closest to the Fergie principles as we ever had. Sometimes I get the impression that he is trying to be Fergie Lite!
Bonucci and Chiellini, Marquinhos and Sergio Ramos, Dias and Stones, VVD and Konate (depending on fitness) those I think are the debatable options. Dont know if we have the best CB pairing but we're definitely in the conversation.Alright, name me a better CB paring then Varane and Maguire? I genuinely don't think the world has a better pairing in the center.
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There is no way Varane would make such a big move without lot of careful thought including speaking to someone he has played with in the national team for so long. This is the reason its doubly exciting - it also tells us Varane feels this team is going to have some significant achievement.Tweet
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It's fair to say that Fergie rarely signed older players. A lot of the big names mentioned in the post you quoted (Cantona, Stam etc) were 26 or under when they signed.The two posters below have nailed it;
I read Sid Lowe's latest piece on him, and I'm even more pumped to have to him here. Seems like he'd complement Maguire perfectly, unlike Cardboard Cutout Lindelof or Calamity Bailly.There is no way Varane would make such a big move without lot of careful thought including speaking to someone he has played with in the national team for so long. This is the reason its doubly exciting - it also tells us Varane feels this team is going to have some significant achievement.
Same, but there aren't many around are there. It's a terrible era for CBs!!Previously these type of signings are everything I was opposed to. Sighing older players from other top clubs, where they've already won everything and become synonymous with their previous club. Fergie rarely, if ever, made these signings, because he wanted hungry players that could make a name for themselves with us by winning trophies. I loved that and was always vocal about it when linked with these signings post Fergie. City and Liverpool now take that approach even if they do pay big fees.
These days I feel like we're so far gone down the road, Fergie's instilled principles have long gone. But I only just thought about this now which shows how the last few years have brought on this indifference towards what we do. There have always been the opposite camp who salivate over blockbuster names and Real Madrid/Barcelona legends coming here. Personally I've never been a fan. Give me a Vidic type sighing any day of the week.
So toxic!!1!Tweet
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Van Persie?It's fair to say that Fergie rarely signed older players. A lot of the big names mentioned in the post you quoted (Cantona, Stam etc) were 26 or under when they signed.
If Fergie ever signed anyone over the age of 26 they generally fell into one of two categories:
Short-term additions - Larsson, Blanc
Didn't need pace for their role - Goalkeepers (and Sheringham!!)
Not sure Varane would have fallen into either category. But then there aren't many other CB options out there so maybe Fergie would have done it anyway!!
Berbatov ?It's fair to say that Fergie rarely signed older players. A lot of the big names mentioned in the post you quoted (Cantona, Stam etc) were 26 or under when they signed.
If Fergie ever signed anyone over the age of 26 they generally fell into one of two categories:
Short-term additions - Larsson, Blanc
Didn't need pace for their role - Goalkeepers (and Sheringham!!)
Not sure Varane would have fallen into either category. But then there aren't many other CB options out there so maybe Fergie would have done it anyway!!
RVP?It's fair to say that Fergie rarely signed older players. A lot of the big names mentioned in the post you quoted (Cantona, Stam etc) were 26 or under when they signed.
If Fergie ever signed anyone over the age of 26 they generally fell into one of two categories:
Short-term additions - Larsson, Blanc
Didn't need pace for their role - Goalkeepers (and Sheringham!!)
Not sure Varane would have fallen into either category. But then there aren't many other CB options out there so maybe Fergie would have done it anyway!!
Oh gawd! The toxic vermin is probably poisoning Varane against us and luring him to PSG before he’s even touched down in Manchester!Tweet
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I feel like all of those names still had something to prove at OT. Blanc was obviously a legend but he was right at the end of his career and was super cheap. Did he ever win the league at Barca? I don't think he won the CL in his career.I'm surprised. Thats just not true. Fergie did both, buy talent and go for world class players. Fergie bought Cantona, Sheringham, Stam, Veron, Van Der Saar, Blanc (who turned out to be a failure), Barthez, Van Persie, Henrik Larsson (loan) etc. He also tried to get a fair few in which failed. These players had all made a big name for themselves before coming to United.
If anything, Ole's tenure has been the closest to the Fergie principles as we ever had. Sometimes I get the impression that he is trying to be Fergie Lite!
Classic misdirectionThe Press said he will fly Tomorrow
All I see is red flagsClassic misdirection