Kane goes Awol

[Dirty Schwein]

This is Kane's own fault. Why the hell did he sign that long contract with no release clause? Levy might be being a dick but it's his right to ask for whatever fee he wants. Kane is Levy's player. Sure, they might have had a gentlemen's agreement but Kane should have known Levy isn't a gentleman but a money hungry rat.

Imagine we see next year Man City not get Kane and have no out and out striker apart from Jesus that useless idiot and Spurs are left with Kane, who sulks and walks around the pitch doing feck all

 

[Inigo Montoya]

I seriously hope we do go for him. Sell off our cast-offs for whatever we can to make up for the transfer fee and wages. I know people are holding up hopes for Haaland, but I don't see that happening with him being a client of Raiola.

Yeah, cos that’s so easy in the current climate isn’t it?

Haaland will go where he chooses not where Raiola wishes. He’s leaving next season and we all know it.

PS we don’t need Kane and we certainly don’t need him at that price

 

[Jaqen H'ghar]

this had me rolling laughter:

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feck’s sake

Not personally against you mate, but this joke is getting really tiresome. I don't even understand why he's being compared to Pogba who is neither in the same class nor in a similar situation.

a) Pogba isn't really generating interest at any club, let alone for a 100 mil.
b) If any team put a semi-decent offer we'd probably take it and run.
c) If there were any interested parties, I wouldn't put it past his agent and he to kick up a stink.
d} One could argue that refusing to sign a deal, so he could leave on a free is just as bad, if not worse.

 

[Pickle85]

World Cup next year, last thing Kane and England need is being retained and benched. We did something similar with DDG, didn't we?

When did Levy not get what he wanted? Berbatov? Modric? Bale? Always had his way.

You'd have thought that Levy wouldn't bench Kane. Similarly, given the proximity to a world cup, if he does play you'd assume that Kane wouldn't half arse it. A lot of assumptions there, I appreciate!

 

[#07]

Its been said by others. However, I am going to put my two pennies in as well: Harry Kane's behaviour is unprofessional and he's getting away with it cos he's Harry Kane.

Compare and contrast Kane's behaviour with that of Pogba, as others have done. Pogba's agent, and his brother, talk about being at United like its being in jail. To me, as a fan, that is infuriating. However, I don't remember it being reported that Pogba has refused to train when able. In fact, we know two times when he came back to United early when unfit: 2016-17 and 2018-19. All because Mourinho was moaning about not having his best players available.

This talk about 'gentleman's agreement' is utter garbage. Kane is an adult not a child. He knew when he signed his contract what he was signing. He was already in the middle of a long deal. He did not have to sign the new deal. He certainly could have insisted it was shorter than six years. He got himself into this situation. Starting a PR campaign to make Levy look like the Grinch does not excuse him refusing to do his job.

 

[Sayros]

Professionalism from both side. 100%. In the end it is club that decides the future of a player if a player is under contract.


Player power have gone so long that it is becoming a big problem. That is why we need clubs to make statements with suspensions and penalties.

There is one thing with not signing a contract. There is another thing when you refuse to play or something like that just because you can't get what you want. Just suspend him. Tottenham will survive and they will attract good players. Will Harry Kane change his mind until his contract runs out in 2024 if Tottenham says you are suspended until you appologise to every person in that club and start behaving like a football player?

Yes, I was speaking generally on the shift in power from clubs to players, but in Harry Kane's situation, I don't really have any sympathy for him. He made a terrible decision tying himself up for that long, and any player who tries to use a 'gentleman's agreement' in professional sport deserves what's coming to them. Put everything in a contract, maybe don't be so greedy on the amount of years, or at least leave yourself an exit door. Kane did none of those things, and so now he's desperate and doing something that should, rightfully, get him some heat but we know he will be protected by a segment of the media.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

Its been said by others. However, I am going to put my two pennies in as well: Harry Kane's behaviour is unprofessional and he's getting away with it cos he's Harry Kane.

Compare and contrast Kane's behaviour with that of Pogba, as others have done. Pogba's agent, and his brother, talk about being at United like its being in jail. To me, as a fan, that is infuriating. However, I don't remember it being reported that Pogba has refused to train when able. In fact, we know two times when he came back to United early when unfit: 2016-17 and 2018-19. All because Mourinho was moaning about not having his best players available.

This talk about 'gentleman's agreement' is utter garbage. Kane is an adult not a child. He knew when he signed his contract what he was signing. He was already in the middle of a long deal. He did not have to sign the new deal. He certainly could have insisted it was shorter than six years. He got himself into this situation. Starting a PR campaign to make Levy look like the Grinch does not excuse him refusing to do his job.

Levy will win, Modric and Berbatov both said they had good working relationships with Levy and that he was only doing what was best for Spurs and at the end of the day that's his job.

 

[shoom]

I strongly suspect this 'Gentleman's Agreement' is a massive exaggeration from the Kane camp.

Even the language used when it came out in the press at the end of last season was tellingly tentative 'Harry Kane believes he has a gentleman's agreement with Daniel Levy'.

At best there may have been an agreement to let him leave if an acceptable offer came in but I can't imagine they settled on a fee, especially when the pandemic was just kicking off and we had no idea what the future held for football.

At the end of the day he signed a 6yr contract and was happy to take the financial benefits that length of contract gave him so he can't have any complaints now.

 

[The Firestarter]

Jesus Christ, every second post here essentially is: If he hadn't signed blaah he wouldn't need to flaah.

 

[SirAF]

What’s a gentleman’s agreement where business is concerned?

That is true, but then Kane’s move is also just business from his pov.

Ferguson honored his word to Ronaldo in 2009.

 

[Ramshock]

Kane is a cnut. The only reason he gets away with his cheating and diving in the media is because he plays for England and a club thats not United. I am glad we arent involved in this and Im not surprised by it.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

No question Kane is getting a very easy ride on this one it's really unprofessional.

 

[Carl]

Jesus Christ, every second post here essentially is: If he hadn't signed blaah he wouldn't need to flaah.

Nice one.

 

[Pickle85]

Kane is a cnut. The only reason he gets away with his cheating and diving in the media is because he plays for England and a club thats not United. I am glad we arent involved in this and Im not surprised by it.

I'm also glad but because of his injury history and the fact that I don't reckon he has many years left at the top of his game. The 'a club that's not United' bit is a bit Rawkish though...

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

much ado about nothing

 

[dinostar77]

This is nothing in the NFL (dunno about NBA or baskeball) players will hold out for an entire season. Not play or train.

If City can pull this off it will be the 'Shearer transfer' that Utd missed out on. We would probably have had another CL trophy or two according to feegie if we had shearer. Kane might get them the CL trophy they want so bad. Playing in that city team under the tutelage of Guardiola, kane is going to score alot.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Learn from the best Harry; tell in public that you are a slave.

 

[Enigma_87]

World Cup next year, last thing Kane and England need is being retained and benched. We did something similar with DDG, didn't we?

Spurs don't have that much assets in their team to put Kane on the bench like we or Real have. Putting him on the bench effectively ends their season as they don't have the players to replace his influence. Of course it goes two ways and all parties will lose in such scenario but I reckon Spurs loses the most if Kane throws a strop and Levy will cut his losses.

When did Levy not get what he wanted? Berbatov? Modric? Bale? Always had his way.

Modric IMO was a steal for Real at 30m. He didn't go to a rival, so Levy at least blocked that move, but he was worth more at that time/market. Berbatov and Bale were sold in the same window when they were targeted. Kane won't be sold for pennies that's for sure, but if he does want to go he will go at some point - be it this year or next.

 

[Commentary]

Oddly enough I am on Kane with this one....

Unfortunately gentlemen's agreements mean nothing legally on paper and Kane should not have signed such a lengthy contract...his agent needs to share the blame.

Kane wanted to leave last year and was convinced by Levy to stay with Mourhino coming in.

Kane is 28 years old and he's injury prone after being overused and run down by his club....it's now or never for Kane.

Asking 160 million for Kane is outrageous and disgusting.

It stinks of a power move to force him to stay, because every year his value will decline for Tottenham.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

No question Kane is getting a very easy ride on this one it's really unprofessional.

I think that could change, both Rio and Jamie C have had digs at him already on social media. As of right now the he has refused to train is still speculation, he has just returned from holidays and with Covid etc nothing is sure. That's me playing advocate for him, I do believe he has in a round about way refused to train. Whether that be asking for a few etc days to or whatever, I think once more light comes on this the majority of people wont be on his side. Now I can totally see why Harry wants to go and have said I have no issue with him going, but he cannot dictate what he thinks he is worth and in all honesty I hope Levy stands firm, not saying to keep him but he cant be bullied into a low ball offer.

 

[predator]

We are an offer of martial + lingard + 50 million away from wrapping this up and guaranteeing the league and being favourites for the CL.

 

[Pickle85]

I think that could change, both Rio and Jamie C have had digs at him already on social media. As of right now the he has refused to train is still speculation, he has just returned from holidays and with Covid etc nothing is sure. That's me playing advocate for him, I do believe he has in a round about way refused to train. Whether that be asking for a few etc days to or whatever, I think once more light comes on this the majority of people wont be on his side. Now I can totally see why Harry wants to go and have said I have no issue with him going, but he cannot dictate what he thinks he is worth and in all honesty I hope Levy stands firm, not saying to keep him but he cant be bullied into a low ball offer.

I bet all former City legends will stay pretty quiet on this. Sad, because I was really keen to hear from Goater and Kinkladze...

 

[Amarsdd]

Kane is a cnut. The only reason he gets away with his cheating and diving in the media is because he plays for England and a club thats not United. I am glad we arent involved in this and Im not surprised by it.

This. The almost deifying of him and Grealish over the summer by the media has been quite sickening.

 

[Giggsyking]

Respect your contract you crying baby.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Oddly enough I am on Kane with this one....

Unfortunately gentlemen's agreements mean nothing legally on paper and Kane should not have signed such a lengthy contract...his agent needs to share the blame.

Kane wanted to leave last year and was convinced by Levy to stay with Mourhino coming in.

Kane is 28 years old and he's injury prone after being overused and run down by his club....it's now or never for Kane.

Asking 160 million for Kane is outrageous and disgusting.

It stinks of a power move to force him to stay, because every year his value will decline for Tottenham.

Nah, there is no right or wrong side here. Every side has right to do what is the best for them.
Club:
They have contract with player, they invested in player and their absolute right is to refuse to sell. Nobody forced player to sign long term contract.
Player:
He has (last) chance to play on highest level, earn even more money and win trophies. I can't blame him for doing everything in his power to get that transfer.

 

[USREDEVIL]

Respect your contract you crying baby.

Tottenham seem to be crumbling. I reckon he wants off the sinking ship contract be damned!

 

[Adisa]

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[USREDEVIL]

Oooh. Now it' getting nasty.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

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If he was due to return and didn't, of course he should be fined and continue to be until he does.

 

[PeteManic]

I would have some sympathy if he hadn't recently signed that new contract. Ego got in the way as I guess he was being underpaid and felt he should be getting what other top PL stars were getting. And I'm sure he is not even getting the top money now. No sympathy for him. Overrated anyhow.

 

[PeteManic]

So true

When it's Kane it's 'gentlements agreement, needs to leave to win trophies, not getting any younger'

When it's Pogba it's 'Virus, Disloyal, Greedy and leaving for money while disrespecting the club'

And that's not just because Paul Pogba is French.

 

[Ramshock]

I'm also glad but because of his injury history and the fact that I don't reckon he has many years left at the top of his game. The 'a club that's not United' bit is a bit Rawkish though...

How old are you? Its not RAWKish at all to suggest our players get singled out by the media. Especially under Fergie. I agree with the injury record though

 

[Penna]

You can't just not turn up to work, even if you think you had an agreement with the boss. I bet lots of people here have been promised things at work and then they haven't materialised. If you're tied into a contract, you have to keep turning up and try to resolve it amicably.

 

[Mickeza]

I think that could change, both Rio and Jamie C have had digs at him already on social media.

Rio is defending him unfortunately.

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[esmufc07]

Rio is defending him unfortunately.

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Don’t think Rio ever didn’t show up for training with us but didn’t he have a fairly big contract dispute with us circa 2005?

 

[Mickeza]

Don’t think Rio ever didn’t show up for training with us but didn’t he have a fairly big contract dispute with us circa 2005?

Spotted talking to Kenyon in a baseball cap if my memory is correct?

 

[iKnowNothing]

Can’t believe Carragher sounds so much more reasonable than Ferdinand.

Also, I’m guessing this was discussed, but what if Kane shows up tomorrow? What if he did something like what we peasants do and called in sick for a day, just because he could?

 

[ghagua]

Yeah, cos that’s so easy in the current climate isn’t it?

Haaland will go where he chooses not where Raiola wishes. He’s leaving next season and we all know it.

PS we don’t need Kane and we certainly don’t need him at that price

Please do try and explain why we cannot do that? We have a team full of underperforming players that we can sell even if they bring a limited return. We also have Pogba that we have to try and recoup something on and Martial to either offer Spurs or sell him elsewhere. That brings in a decent chunk of change and also saves wages as well.,


As for Haaland, you seem very familiar with his thinking, but don't hold your breath for that to happen. Haaland is not going anywhere without his agent's input.

 

[GreenFieldsGoldenBarley]

This is nothing in the NFL (dunno about NBA or baskeball) players will hold out for an entire season. Not play or train.

If City can pull this off it will be the 'Shearer transfer' that Utd missed out on. We would probably have had another CL trophy or two according to feegie if we had shearer. Kane might get them the CL trophy they want so bad. Playing in that city team under the tutelage of Guardiola, kane is going to score alot.

Honestly I don't buy the idea that Pep just improves all the players he works with, that feels like sycophancy. What out-and-out strikers has he worked well with over the course of his career? He didn't exactly get on well with Ibra or Aguero, and while Eto'o and David Villa both did well for him he sort of sacrificed their games for the sake of Messi and the midfield. Even Lewandowski doesn't speak too highly of him.

Pep's worked with a bunch of the world's best strikers and rarely given them the sense that he really likes them or trusts them. Why assume that he'll do better with Kane?

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

Rio is defending him unfortunately.

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He did post something very different today? Or did I imagine it? How exactly are Spurs ruining his name?