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Oddly enough I am on Kane with this one....

Unfortunately gentlemen's agreements mean nothing legally on paper and Kane should not have signed such a lengthy contract...his agent needs to share the blame.

Kane wanted to leave last year and was convinced by Levy to stay with Mourhino coming in.

Kane is 28 years old and he's injury prone after being overused and run down by his club....it's now or never for Kane.

Asking 160 million for Kane is outrageous and disgusting.

It stinks of a power move to force him to stay, because every year his value will decline for Tottenham.
But getting 200 000 weekly isn't? (Yes, there are even worse cases)

Some players behave like children not getting ice-cream. He signed a contract and should honour it.
 

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Can’t believe Carragher sounds so much more reasonable than Ferdinand.

Also, I’m guessing this was discussed, but what if Kane shows up tomorrow? What if he did something like what we peasants do and called in sick for a day, just because he could?
i think the timing, the situation, his interview with Neville, too much to be a coincidence. Not saying he has burnt his bridges entirely but with less than 2 weeks till opening game we will know very soon how this played out.
 

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Has he sworn on the life of his daughter yet that there is a 'gentleman's agreement'?
 

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Not personally against you mate, but this joke is getting really tiresome. I don't even understand why he's being compared to Pogba who is neither in the same class nor in a similar situation.

a) Pogba isn't really generating interest at any club, let alone for a 100 mil.
b) If any team put a semi-decent offer we'd probably take it and run.
c) If there were any interested parties, I wouldn't put it past his agent and he to kick up a stink.
d} One could argue that refusing to sign a deal, so he could leave on a free is just as bad, if not worse.
What situation is Kane in?
He signed a contract

Pogba is clearly wanted by PSG. The idea he doesn’t generate interest is verifiably false.

Reports say we want to keep him. In fact, we have reportedly already made a considerably offer in our efforts

Making it known you want a transfer is ok. Going awol is another

One could argue a lot of things. Wouldn’t make them valid.

the point is things are scrutinised to ridiculous levels with Pogba. Kane is being incredibly unprofessional, and chances are if Pogba was on the other side, the type of media coverage he’d be getting wouldn’t be as tame as this.
 

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i think the timing, the situation, his interview with Neville, too much to be a coincidence. Not saying he has burnt his bridges entirely but with less than 2 weeks till opening game we will know very soon how this played out.
Sure, I’m not suggesting that he’s not doing this to get a move away. My point is given the backlash today, what if he just shows up for training tomorrow? Is all forgotten then?
 

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If this is truly to force a transfer, he’s the Mouth breathing twat many expected he’s always been. If he couldn’t kick a ball pretty well he’d be in the local Sainsburys banging on about his Magna Carta rights or the Nuremberg Trials to avoid wearing a mask.

Gentleman’s Agreement. With Levy. The absolute state of Harry Kane and his agent.
 

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If this is truly to force a transfer, he’s the Mouth breathing twat many expected he’s always been. If he couldn’t kick a ball pretty well he’d be in the local Sainsburys banging on about his Magna Carta rights or the Nuremberg Trials to avoid wearing a mask.

Gentleman’s Agreement. With Levy. The absolute state of Harry Kane and his agent.
:lol: Why are you so angry about it
 

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You can't just not turn up to work, even if you think you had an agreement with the boss. I bet lots of people here have been promised things at work and then they haven't materialised. If you're tied into a contract, you have to keep turning up and try to resolve it amicably.
My ex-boss always used to say "next year is your year" when asked about promotions.
 

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That's got to be rubbish, where are those figures from? Also, you mention league games missed and then point out how many total games he's played, bit disingenuous...
This is from premierleague.com

He has played 35, 29, 28, 37, 30, 38 and 34 games over the last 7 league seasons. In 2018/19 and 19/20 he missed a total of 19 games - the 4 seasons before and the season after he missed 16 matches.

2020/2021Tottenham Hotspur35 (0)23
2019/2020Tottenham Hotspur29 (0)18
2018/2019Tottenham Hotspur28 (1)17
2017/2018Tottenham Hotspur37 (2)30
2016/2017Tottenham Hotspur30 (1)29
2015/2016Tottenham Hotspur38 (0)25
2014/2015Tottenham Hotspur34 (6)21

I included the stats for total games to show how many games he played in total last year - not bad for a guy who supposedly has an injury-problem.
 

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Sure, I’m not suggesting that he’s not doing this to get a move away. My point is given the backlash today, what if he just shows up for training tomorrow? Is all forgotten then?
I don't think so, if he stays I have no doubt he will perform to the best of his abilities but we will have a month of not knowing.
 

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If this is truly to force a transfer, he’s the Mouth breathing twat many expected he’s always been. If he couldn’t kick a ball pretty well he’d be in the local Sainsburys banging on about his Magna Carta rights or the Nuremberg Trials to avoid wearing a mask.

Gentleman’s Agreement. With Levy. The absolute state of Harry Kane and his agent.
His agent is a novice with probably a single client, his brother.
 
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I strongly suspect this 'Gentleman's Agreement' is a massive exaggeration from the Kane camp.

Even the language used when it came out in the press at the end of last season was tellingly tentative 'Harry Kane believes he has a gentleman's agreement with Daniel Levy'.

At best there may have been an agreement to let him leave if an acceptable offer came in but I can't imagine they settled on a fee, especially when the pandemic was just kicking off and we had no idea what the future held for football.

At the end of the day he signed a 6yr contract and was happy to take the financial benefits that length of contract gave him so he can't have any complaints now.
Exactly, you and others have mentioned he signed the 6 year contract… may have been signed at a time when he was just coming back from a long term injury so he wasn’t sure how he’d progress that’s just speculating on my part but leads to a point. He signed the 6 year contract, if after 2-3 years he gets severely injured and recovers but is clearly no longer good enough to be a first team player, Spurs can’t just randomly say screw your we’re no longer paying you. To get him off their books Spurs would have to pay out his whole contract or come to an agreement with him.
 

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Can’t believe Carragher sounds so much more reasonable than Ferdinand.

Also, I’m guessing this was discussed, but what if Kane shows up tomorrow? What if he did something like what we peasants do and called in sick for a day, just because he could?
Hmm, Rio does tend to talk alot of crap.
 

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That's got to be rubbish, where are those figures from? Also, you mention league games missed and then point out how many total games he's played, bit disingenuous...
Why is it rubbish? His injury record is way over blown so are the he is "past his peak comments". Don't believe every post you read.
 

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Funny how so many have a problem with Kane forcing a transfer. Do you complain when our signings have done similar?

Kane is a professional, but he also wants more than anything to win throphies surely. Spurs had their chance and failed, he's not realistically gonna win anything with them. You think he will look back at the end of his career and be proud of his loyalty towards the club having won nothing?
 

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Funny how so many have a problem with Kane forcing a transfer. Do you complain when our signings have done similar?

Kane is a professional, but he also wants more than anything to win throphies surely. Spurs had their chance and failed, he's not realistically gonna win anything with them. You think he will look back at the end of his career and be proud of his loyalty towards the club having won nothing?
He had 3 chances to and well didn't?
 

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He must know an offer is going to be made for him. Bizarre as he was poor throughout the Euro's - moved around like an old man.

Sad pathetic behaviour though going on strike .
 
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If this is truly to force a transfer, he’s the Mouth breathing twat many expected he’s always been. If he couldn’t kick a ball pretty well he’d be in the local Sainsburys banging on about his Magna Carta rights or the Nuremberg Trials to avoid wearing a mask.

Gentleman’s Agreement. With Levy. The absolute state of Harry Kane and his agent.
What :lol: :lol:
 

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Rio is defending him unfortunately.

Don't know why you're saying unfortunately.

I think if he's been led to believe he can go and was let down, then he's fine to do it.
 

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Rio looking quite thick with that take. It's also very ironic he brought some hypothetical parallel with Pogba into it, because safe to say if Pogba had a long time to go on his contract and went on strike Rio would not be defending him like he is Kane. Quite transparent English player bias going on there.

There's not really any justification for any player who signed a contract to go awol. Even if there is a gentleman's agreement, it will be a gentleman's agreement to let him leave if the financial terms are met. Not "well you can leave even if the highest bid we get for you is half a chocolate orange"

And as for how the Spurs fans will remember him... I mean just look at Rooney and Everton or RVP and Arsenal, and they didn't throw strops to get a move.
 

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If this is truly to force a transfer, he’s the Mouth breathing twat many expected he’s always been. If he couldn’t kick a ball pretty well he’d be in the local Sainsburys banging on about his Magna Carta rights or the Nuremberg Trials to avoid wearing a mask.

Gentleman’s Agreement. With Levy. The absolute state of Harry Kane and his agent.
Not sure he would know what the Magna Carta or Nuremberg Trails where. He would more likely be banging on about how he won a online FIFA game with his mate at 3am in the morning.
 

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Funny how so many have a problem with Kane forcing a transfer. Do you complain when our signings have done similar?

Kane is a professional, but he also wants more than anything to win throphies surely. Spurs had their chance and failed, he's not realistically gonna win anything with them. You think he will look back at the end of his career and be proud of his loyalty towards the club having won nothing?
Who went on strike in order to join us and was praised on here for it? I’m assuming you have examples that you can easily produce since you say it in such a snarky tone.

The opposite is what I’ve seen on here, with people praising Varane’s professionalism despite working on his move to us.
 

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The opposite is what I’ve seen on here, with people praising Varane’s professionalism despite working on his move to us.
Varane and Sancho (who was desperate to move to us last summer) and Maguire and RVP and Rooney and pretty much every major signing in the last 10-15 years, because none of them went awol from their previous clubs to force a move.
 

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City have the funds to do anything they like...... The question is - Can the accountants fiddle the books to they pass any financial fair play regs?
They do yeah but to be fair in recent years they’ve pulled out of plenty of deals because the asking price was so high, they’ve spent loads of money but don’t usually go all in with the huge fees.

After a year of covid and no fans etc they’ll have to cook those books real good to drop £260m in one summer
 

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I wonder if Gary Neville will criticize him the way he does Pogba who has never done such directly.
 

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Rio looking quite thick with that take. It's also very ironic he brought some hypothetical parallel with Pogba into it, because safe to say if Pogba had a long time to go on his contract and went on strike Rio would not be defending him like he is Kane. Quite transparent English player bias going on there.

There's not really any justification for any player who signed a contract to go awol. Even if there is a gentleman's agreement, it will be a gentleman's agreement to let him leave if the financial terms are met. Not "well you can leave even if the highest bid we get for you is half a chocolate orange"

And as for how the Spurs fans will remember him... I mean just look at Rooney and Everton or RVP and Arsenal, and they didn't throw strops to get a move.
Agree.
 

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Rio looking quite thick with that take. It's also very ironic he brought some hypothetical parallel with Pogba into it, because safe to say if Pogba had a long time to go on his contract and went on strike Rio would not be defending him like he is Kane. Quite transparent English player bias going on there.

There's not really any justification for any player who signed a contract to go awol. Even if there is a gentleman's agreement, it will be a gentleman's agreement to let him leave if the financial terms are met. Not "well you can leave even if the highest bid we get for you is half a chocolate orange"

And as for how the Spurs fans will remember him... I mean just look at Rooney and Everton or RVP and Arsenal, and they didn't throw strops to get a move.
Or big Dave at Utd.
 

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Imagine being a footballer of Kane's reputation and goal record and having won absolutely nothing in your entire career...

It's really one of the most bizarre unbelievable stats in football.

Anyone in Kane's position would push for a move given his age now.

Carra, Gerrard won plenty if not the league. If they were in Kane's position they'd all do the same.

If Gerrard hadn't won the CL or anything at all he'd have joined us in 2005 almost certainly.

If it works out for Kane and he's got a bag full of medals when he retires doubt he'll care what anyone thinks about him forcing a more now.
 

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Imagine being a footballer of Kane's reputation and goal record and having won absolutely nothing in your entire career...

It's really one of the most bizarre unbelievable stats in football.

Anyone in Kane's position would push for a move given his age now.

Carra, Gerrard won plenty if not the league. If they were in Kane's position they'd all do the same.

If Gerrard hadn't won the CL or anything at all he'd have joined us in 2005 almost certainly.

If it works out for Kane and he's got a bag full of medals when he retires doubt he'll care what anyone thinks about him forcing a more now.
Le Tissier
 

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I think Kane’s been very ill advised by his brother who also happens to be his agent, in this instance. Levy is known to drive a hard bargain so it’ll be a huge shock if Kane goes anywhere this season as Spurs want £150 million. Add the fact that City are more likely to sign Grealish before anyone else.
 

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How old are you? Its not RAWKish at all to suggest our players get singled out by the media. Especially under Fergie. I agree with the injury record though
I'm 36. Not sure how that's relevant? I think suggesting that he wouldn't get away with the things he supposedly gets away with if he played for us is paranoid nonsense.
 

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Kane wants easy trophy. Disgusting behaviour towards your childhood club. Hope the move fails.
 
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