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Tuchel knew lot about player more than you or me mate. Probably you will get rude awakening about Lukaku s game more than anything in my opinion.
Mourinho also knew more about him than us, supposedly, having actually coached him at Chelsea, still made that mistake at United. People are fallible.

You lot are just in the reverse position of what happened with us when Mourinho came here, when the whole world and their dog knew how it was going to end but Utd fans were in denial thinking he could’ve changed.
 
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Tuchel knew lot about player more than you or me mate. Probably you will get rude awakening about Lukaku s game more than anything in my opinion.
Watching him every week for two years definitely isn’t long enough to learn about a player.
 

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Actually think he might be onto something here. Big Rom and little Kai could become the new Heskey/Owen.
 

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Mourinho also knew more about him than us, supposedly, having actually coached him at Chelsea, still made that mistake at United. People are fallible.

You lot are just in the reverse position like what happened with us when Mourinho came here, when the whole world and their dog knew how it was going to end but Utd fans were in denial thinking he could’ve changed.
No mate Mourinho tried to develop player s game which certainly not his strengths in his career as manager. He tried and failed what conte achieved with th player.

His target man abilities were well documented when played for inter he did struggle initially but he developed his game as target man a lot during last season.

Players benefitted lot when playing around Lukaku so why he contributed lot of assists and xga was lot higher too.
 

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He said "I think, with the exit of Olivier Giroud, we could use a player used to playing with their back to goal, whose strength is to keep possession from long balls".

In for a rude awakening, and just as well.
No way he said that :lol:
 

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One international match narrowly won by penalties definitely proves your point. You do realise the EPL isn’t just England players?
Both points are dumb

PL might be the strongest/hardest league in the world but it's not like Serie A is the league of San Marino....

Doing what Lukaku did in Italy is by no means an easy or meaningless feat. Cristiano Ronaldo plays in serie A. Several of the italian players who showed up big time at the euros play there. Lukaku was better than all of them
 

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For me, Lukaku is a nothing player that ruins flow of the game and general play and you can't build an elite team (that aspires for highest glory, CL, PL) around him as you will be exposed against better teams.
He will bang goals against fodder and lower tier teams and he will have wonderful stats, but if you watch him play every week, you must know deeply inside how limited he actually is.
It was a good riddance for us, I wouldn't want him near our club ever again.
I was over the moon after Chelsea splashed so much money on him.
 

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Doing what Lukaku did in Italy is by no means an easy or meaningless feat. Cristiano Ronaldo plays in serie A. Several of the italian players who showed up big time at the euros play there. Lukaku was better than all of them
For all the hype this thread has gotten in the last two years, he didn't actually do much better than he did in England. A third of his goals came from penalties. Luis Muriel was a better goalscorer than him.
 

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For all the hype this thread has gotten in the last two years, he didn't actually do much better than he did in England. A third of his goals came from penalties. Luis Muriel was a better goalscorer than him.
And yet, Lukaku was very clearly the best player in the league
 

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He said "I think, with the exit of Olivier Giroud, we could use a player used to playing with their back to goal, whose strength is to keep possession from long balls".

In for a rude awakening, and just as well.
Conte absolutely threatened to drop Lukaku unless he learned to play with his back to goal. Youre talking nonsense if you think he doesnt know how to play like that anymore. It is the number one thing Conte made sure Lukaku had in his arsenal and you're in for the rude awakening if you think he is the same player as he left United. I watch majority of Inter Milan games due to my father being a massive fan.
 

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Interesting to see how he does but I personally don't expect him to show anything we haven't seen before.

I've never rated him, even before he signed for us. His footballing ability is rather mediocre.
 

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This is what Tuchel said about Lukaku playing with his back to the goal.

 

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Actually think he might be onto something here. Big Rom and little Kai could become the new Heskey/Owen.
And will win both cl and pl coming season.Sorry kai alone only able to win cl last season.:drool:
 

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Conte absolutely threatened to drop Lukaku unless he learned to play with his back to goal. Youre talking nonsense if you think he doesnt know how to play like that anymore. It is the number one thing Conte made sure Lukaku had in his arsenal and you're in for the rude awakening if you think he is the same player as he left United. I watch majority of Inter Milan games due to my father being a massive fan.
I'm not in for any kind of awakening. Neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg if he turns out to be a transformed player. I very much doubt he will be, but at any rate, I don't stand to lose anything on that, whereas the same could not be said of a man who has just spent a hundred million on the player.

"I watch a lot of games" is a weak and stupid appeal to authority. If you want to big yourself up as a poster, it would be much more useful to learn how to spell. Otherwise people might think the person watching all these games is a complete dimwit.
 

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I'm not in for any kind of awakening. Neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg if he turns out to be a transformed player. I very much doubt he will be, but at any rate, I don't stand to lose anything on that, whereas the same could not be said of a man who has just spent a hundred million on the player.

"I watch a lot of games" is a weak and stupid appeal to authority. If you want to big yourself up as a poster, it would be much more useful to learn how to spell. Otherwise people might think the person watching all these games is a complete dimwit.
You have to resort to personal attacks because you’re called out on the nonsense you posted without substantial knowledge about what youre yapping about. You’re triggered for being called out, so you lash out like a child. Please tell me again how bad my spelling is on a forum. YOUR very cute. ;)
 

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You have to resort to personal attacks because you’re called out on the nonsense you posted without substantial knowledge about what youre yapping about. You’re triggered for being called out, so you lash out like a child. Please tell me again how bad my spelling is on a forum. YOUR very cute. ;)
No idea what you're on about but he's still the same donkey who has trouble controlling and trapping the ball, can only get past players when running past them on a straight line and has trouble with dribbling. There were numerous times last season where he looked completely clueless, scored a tap in and everyone was YAY this WHY my LUKAKU is So GOOD. He wont get the same space he did in Serie A
 

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No idea what you're on about but he's still the same donkey who has trouble controlling and trapping the ball, can only get past players when running past them on a straight line and has trouble with dribbling. There were numerous times last season where he looked completely clueless, scored a tap in and everyone was YAY this WHY my LUKAKU is So GOOD. He wont get the same space he did in Serie A
I agree. You can literally see on his 10 second second ‘welcome’ clip to Chelsea where he’s doing stepovers that he’s still a donkey. Doesn’t have any finesse at all and frankly as much as people like to pretend you can’t really improve your base level technique and Lukaku never had it to begin with!
 

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I agree. You can literally see on his 10 second second ‘welcome’ clip to Chelsea where he’s doing stepovers that he’s still a donkey. Doesn’t have any finesse at all and frankly as much as people like to pretend you can’t really improve your base level technique and Lukaku never had it to begin with!
Personally I would definitely listen to player predictions from a guy called TrustInJanuzaj. ;)
 

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No idea what you're on about but he's still the same donkey who has trouble controlling and trapping the ball, can only get past players when running past them on a straight line and has trouble with dribbling. There were numerous times last season where he looked completely clueless, scored a tap in and everyone was YAY this WHY my LUKAKU is So GOOD. He wont get the same space he did in Serie A
You have an unhealthy obsession with hating Lukaku mate. He can walk on the pitch and I would still expect you to point and call him a “donkey”.

I agree. You can literally see on his 10 second second ‘welcome’ clip to Chelsea where he’s doing stepovers that he’s still a donkey. Doesn’t have any finesse at all and frankly as much as people like to pretend you can’t really improve your base level technique and Lukaku never had it to begin with!
Anything Chelsea related youre up in arms against, so it doesnt surprise me that you would full heartedly agree. Scouts code and all.
Only thing missing now is TheReligion and Carolina tag teaming in with you to bash on Lukaku and Chelsea.
 
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You have an unhealthy obsession with hating Lukaku mate. He can walk on the pitch and I would still expect you to point and call him a “donkey”.


Anything Chelsea related youre up in arms against, so it doesnt surprise me that you would full heartedly agree. Scouts code and all.
Oh I hate Chelsea but ultimately proved right last season against the barrage of people saying they would finish ahead of Utd! I also happen to think Lukaku is shite based on his body of work prior and at Utd. What he did in Italy is of little relevance to me!
 

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Oh I hate Chelsea but ultimately proved right last season against the barrage of people saying they would finish ahead of Utd! I also happen to think Lukaku is shite based on his body of work prior and at Utd. What he did in Italy is of little relevance to me!
They won the Champions League and two of their players just made the final 3 best players nomination. Im sure theyre crying all the way to the bank with that Champions League Winners money while we finished second!

Dont let the hate blind you mate, I’m sure you will let it though. You can’t be wrong about Chelsea at all costs. Hand at heart, scouts code!
Of course what he did in Italy is no relevance, wouldn’t expect it to be from you. Doesn’t fit the agenda!
 

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They won the Champions League and two of their players just made the final 3 best players nomination. Im sure theyre crying all the way to the bank with that Champions League Winners money while we finished second!

Dont let the hate blind you mate, I’m sure you will let it though. You can’t be wrong about Chelsea at all costs. Hand at heart, scouts code!
Of course what he did in Italy is no relevance, wouldn’t expect it to be from you. Doesn’t fit the agenda!
I don't think it takes Einstein to understand why Lukaku isn't getting much love on a United forum given his behaviour before he left and comments made after he did. He was highly unprofessional.

That said people are also okay to have reservations about him and aren't going to blindly accept his form in Italy as proof he's suddenly ironed out his weaknesses (he hasn't and it showed in the Euros bar a decent 45 minutes against Denmark).

We are talking about a 28 year old £100m player. Some people here don't feel he justifies that fee and I'd agree with that given he brings very little other than goals. Each to their own.
 

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Oh I hate Chelsea but ultimately proved right last season against the barrage of people saying they would finish ahead of Utd! I also happen to think Lukaku is shite based on his body of work prior and at Utd. What he did in Italy is of little relevance to me!
Sorry to disappoint you but Lukaku’s all round game has improved from the time he was here and with the level of support he will get from his Chelsea team mates would only result to many many more goals for Chelsea, something they struggled to consistently do last season.

I think we will see bigger competition this season. City are still the favorites imo, then Chelsea, Liverpool and Us (in no particular order) will give them a serious run for their money.
 

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The nice thing about Lukaku is by the end of the 4th fixture he is in, we will know exactly where it is all going.
 

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They won the Champions League and two of their players just made the final 3 best players nomination. Im sure theyre crying all the way to the bank with that Champions League Winners money while we finished second!

Dont let the hate blind you mate, I’m sure you will let it though. You can’t be wrong about Chelsea at all costs. Hand at heart, scouts code!
Of course what he did in Italy is no relevance, wouldn’t expect it to be from you. Doesn’t fit the agenda!
I’m sure Chelsea football club are glad to have made a fan out of you. Congrats!
 

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Sorry to disappoint you but Lukaku’s all round game has improved from the time he was here and with the level of support he will get from his Chelsea team mates would only result to many many more goals for Chelsea, something they struggled to consistently do last season.

I think we will see bigger competition this season. City are still the favorites imo, then Chelsea, Liverpool and Us (in no particular order) will give them a serious run for their money.
We will see. I can say hand on heart I have never seen a player go from the worst hold up play I’ve seen from a striker to good, so if he manages it I’ll hold my hands up and congratulate him as the first player to have ever achieved that!
 

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The nice thing about Lukaku is by the end of the 4th fixture he is in, we will know exactly where it is all going.
Nope. It's new signing bounce mate if he scored in those fixtures like tuchel s new manager bounce even after winning champions league. :lol:
 

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We will see. I can say hand on heart I have never seen a player go from the worst hold up play I’ve seen from a striker to good, so if he manages it I’ll hold my hands up and congratulate him as the first player to have ever achieved that!
I understand the skepticism and would generally agree that going abroad for a couple of years can oftentimes be used as a way to fool those with a short memory, but I would say that this might be something of a unique case given Conte's hyperfocused training on that particular aspect of Lukaku's game.

Certainly it all remains to be seen and Lukaku has to prove it on the pitch, but I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest that established opinions based on his time at United might be somewhat outdated.
 

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Tend to feel like professional managers and scouts might have a better grasp on a players ability than fans. This is a guy who has moved repeatedly for huge amounts. Fairly confident that isn't because he's some talentless donkey who is guaranteed to disappoint.

Maybe he will fail, but that's a risk for every transfer.
 

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Tend to feel like professional managers and scouts might have a better grasp on a players ability than fans. This is a guy who has moved repeatedly for huge amounts. Fairly confident that isn't because he's some talentless donkey who is guaranteed to disappoint.

Maybe he will fail, but that's a risk for every transfer.
He won't fail it just depends on what level he exceeds to. At United he had a decent scoring record and was "very good" in the first season, but he still had the same weaknesses that made United fans not really be fully sold with him. That hasn't changed at Inter. He still has shit hold up play and is shit in big games generally. At Chelsea he'll fit in well for Tuchel, especially in the league as that's exactly what Chelsea needed. A consistent big bodied goalscorer, but he still has the same weaknesses so it's about how to hide those as well as possible.
 

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If any of you have actually watched our games, we make a hell of a lot of easy and clear cut chances to score. It’s unbelievable how many we missed. Werner was key to that, his pace troubled most teams. He was also the biggest reason we missed. If we can utilize his strengths and create those chances for Lukaku, chances are he will bury them.

If it plays out like last season, our strong defense and Ability to create chances remain the same, I really don’t see how this transfer can go wrong. Naturally it doesn’t always work out like that but it has the potential to take us really far. Even if it doesn’t, he will score and he will likely get us more than 10-15 goals and that will still be an improvement.
 

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I personally have very low expectations of Lukaku due to our experience with strikers, so it will take a lot for him to disappoint me. It's true that he cost a lot of money but there's a dearth of good strikers in the market at the moment and the fees are inflated as a result. Because we didn't have a good goalscorer in the team last season, we dropped a lot of points in games that were supposed to be easy on paper. If he helps us win such games, he will push us up the table a bit. As to whether that will be enough to help us challenge for the title remains to be seen.
 

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He won't fail it just depends on what level he exceeds to. At United he had a decent scoring record and was "very good" in the first season, but he still had the same weaknesses that made United fans not really be fully sold with him. That hasn't changed at Inter. He still has shit hold up play and is shit in big games generally. At Chelsea he'll fit in well for Tuchel, especially in the league as that's exactly what Chelsea needed. A consistent big bodied goalscorer, but he still has the same weaknesses so it's about how to hide those as well as possible.
Against the other top 6 teams in Serie A last year (Milan, Atalanta, Juve, Napoli, and Lazio), Lukaku scored 6 and had 2 assists in 826 minutes. I'd be over the moon if he manages that at Chelsea this year.
 

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This is what Tuchel said about Lukaku playing with his back to the goal.

Much more logic in that, Tuchel needs a striker who can score, but who will also drag the defence and open the space behind for Havertz, Mount, Pulisic. I think he will try to use him more like that and not like some target man.

I don't rate Lukaku as a world class and it is a bit crazy to give such amount of money for him, but think that's the best way to use him and he will be decent/good for them probably. It also shows how shit the market when it comes to strikers really is.
 

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Against the other top 6 teams in Serie A last year (Milan, Atalanta, Juve, Napoli, and Lazio), Lukaku scored 6 and had 2 assists in 826 minutes. I'd be over the moon if he manages that at Chelsea this year.
The quality at the top in Italy isn't anywhere near the premier league top level. Lukaku had a good record against Milan in his 2 seasons, (4 goals 1 assist in 4 games), 3 goals in 4 games against Napoli, but then pretty poor against Juve (1 goal, no assists and 3 of them losses in 4 games against Juve), just 1 assist and no goals against Atalanta in 4 games.

In terms of Europe, Juve and Atalanta have been the 2 best Italian sides in the past few years. You look at him in the euros or world cup, as well, it's the same thing. He's a very good striker overall, but he has significant weaknesses that just annoy fans and that hasn't changed since he left United. It's about can those weaknesses be minimized, and can the team overcome his shortcomings in the few games it holds the team back. He's a huge plus to Chelsea for 75% of the league games, and not really much of a plus for the remaining 25% in which Tuchel did quite well in anyway.