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Is Cristiano Ronaldo a United legend? | Poll added

Is Cristiano Ronaldo a Man Utd legend?


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spiriticon

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I completely understand the reasoning that he gave his peak years to Madrid and is probably a bigger Madrid legend at this time.

But, as he is our only Ballon D'Or winner of the last 50 odd years and also THE leading example of what our club can do for young players and their career, I just have to class him as a club legend. Moreover, it seems his story is not yet finished here ;)
 

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If you consider Beckham a Real Madrid legend than yes, he is..
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that he's with us again, but aligning him with Best, Charlton, Beckham and Cantona can't be right.
 

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This transfer feels like an ex whom remarried that you are now taking back after 12 years.

Having won all that he has Ronaldo is a legend of football and Real Madrid. Not for us as he gave his prime years to RM.

A true legend for the club imo are players like Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, hell even Gary Neville. Those are men that gave everything for Manchester United, they didn't even have agents as they didn't want to play for another club in their careers. Ability does not make you a legend, mentality does.

I think even he didn't think we would take him back, after leaving and also flirting with us in the media for his raises over the years. I think his agent now even flirted with City so we would come in for him. Even if we now win the champions league he won't be a legend for me. Great player but not a legend for us, that boat has long sailed.
 

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A big fat no.

A club legend wouldn't have said he feels like a slave to stay at his club in order to leave and give his best years to another club he loves. Cristiano clearly loves and cares about Real Madrid more than any other club including Manchester United. I don't even think he wants to be seen as a United legend. He'll probably want people to associate him with Real Madrid and remember him as a Madrid legend.

He's a great player who played for United. Not a United great.

It’s funny how the main reason that people here say he’s not a legend is something that never actually happened. Ronaldo calling himself a slave never happened. Blatter said Ronaldo was like a slave and made a rant about it, Ronaldo was then asked if he agreed with what Blatter had said (not the slave comment in particular) and he said yes to which the entire English media proceeded to clickbait “Ronaldo says he’s a slave at Man Utd’ despite him never saying that.

12 years later and most United fans believe he said that
 

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If you consider Beckham a Real Madrid legend than yes, he is..
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that he's with us again, but aligning him with Best, Charlton, Beckham and Cantona can't be right.
I don't get the negativity tbh.

And Cantona was at the club less time than Ronaldo.

It is what they contributed and in my eyes they are both legends. Both were the catalysts for success in their respective teams.
 

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I wouldn't ever consider him a United legend. He forced a move to Real when he finally came good, we were just a stepping stone for his career. He would have moved a year earlier if it weren't for Sir Alex.
He's had legendary career but will be remembered in the white of Real far more than United.

The whole idea of he's coming home is absurd, he always complained about the weather and couldn't wait to go to Madrid.
 

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He has admitted his guilt and is wanted in the US, but yeah, let's say it's moronic. He played for Man United and called himself a slave, but if you think that makes you a legend, it's okay, it's up to you. In my world, that doesn't make you a legend, neither does wanting to go to City, and I don't care if he had no other choice (although he had, like staying at the biggest club in Italy, I guess that's being a slave too). He's an egomaniac, spoiled brat, and should in no sense be named in the same breath as Bobby Charlton, Paul Scholes, Gary Neville, George Best or even Eric Cantona.
George Best, the alcoholic womanizer? The wife beater?


Stay on your high horse.
 

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I wouldn't ever consider him a United legend. He forced a move to Real when he finally came good, we were just a stepping stone for his career. He would have moved a year earlier if it weren't for Sir Alex.
He's had legendary career but will be remembered in the white of Real far more than United.

The whole idea of he's coming home is absurd, he always complained about the weather and couldn't wait to go to Madrid.
Hes said many good things though, so you have to choose 1 side of him. He's either this or that.

Or you can be an adult and accept that peoples feelings are a byproduct of the moment. Today we are happy and say X, tomorrow we will be sad and say Y.

And who doesn't complain of the weather?
 

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I don't even think he wants to be seen as a United legend. He'll probably want people to associate him with Real Madrid and remember him as a Madrid legend.
Given he's one of the best and most serial winners across sports, and is choosing to come to a club that hasn't won a league title in 8 years, I'd say he wants to be seen as a United legend.
 

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Of course he is. Yes he didn't stay with us for that long, and yes he's a bigger legend for Real Madrid than for us, but he was the figurehead of our team that won the League for 3 years in a row as well as the Champions League. We were noticeably better as soon as he hit his peak and we were noticeably worse as soon as he left. Also our only Ballon d'Or winner of this century.
 

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A big fat no.

A club legend wouldn't have said he feels like a slave to stay at his club in order to leave and give his best years to another club he loves. Cristiano clearly loves and cares about Real Madrid more than any other club including Manchester United. I don't even think he wants to be seen as a United legend. He'll probably want people to associate him with Real Madrid and remember him as a Madrid legend.

He's a great player who played for United. Not a United great.
I disagree with this. Ronaldo doesn't have allegiance to any club. From the various things people have said about him, based on what he says, based on his emotions, it seems he is only in it entirely for himself and if someone joins him along for the ride then he welcomes then until he becomes selfish and its time to move on from them.

Its a common trait in some people. They can be the most loving, caring, people but its only up until a point that they don't have any satisfaction anymore. Ronaldo doesn't understand emotion from anothers perspective, he doesn't understand the lives attached to his, and he doesn't feel an obligation to cater to anyone else's feelings if he doesn't feel comfortable.

This all makes a lot more sense if you read the report yesterday that he was genuinely curious as to how his reputation would be affected if he moved to City. He wasn't worried about the feelings of the fans, rather he was worried about his own legacy and so as a byproduct the feelings of others was included.

He just doesn't understand emotion in the common sense that others do. He is a man who would call himself self sufficient.
 

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Ronaldo doesn't understand emotion from anothers perspective, he doesn't understand the lives attached to his, and he doesn't feel an obligation to cater to anyone else's feelings if he doesn't feel comfortable.
It's football....
 

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Right now it is too early to call
Ronaldo has won everything at United. He was the catalyst and star player of our most dominant era. He was the best player in the world here. He has more trophies and spent more time here than Cantona.

too early to call

:confused:
 

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Ronaldo has won everything at United. He was the catalyst and star player of our most dominant era. He was the best player in the world here. He has more trophies and spent more time here than Cantona.

too early to call

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The bloke is here for 2 more years at least.

Ronaldo is the best player in Cups i have seen, the guy can get us trophies.
 

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Ronaldo has won everything at United. He was the catalyst and star player of our most dominant era. He was the best player in the world here. He has more trophies and spent more time here than Cantona.

too early to call

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2006-2009 wasn't our most dominant era.

He was also worse than Nani for half of his time here during his first spell.
 

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One of our greatest ever players. One of my favourite players ever to watch. But not a club legend for me. We only really got two and a half great seasons out of him and he took his peak to another club.
Out of interest, are you counting 06/07 or 08/09 as the half ?
 

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2006-2009 wasn't our most dominant era.

He was also worse than Nani for half of his time here during his first spell.
I'm not going to be arguing about first world war era football.

United got to 2 CL finals back to back with Ronaldo. Winning league titles and a bunch of cups on the way.

About him being worse than Nani for half of his time here, I disagree. So don't reply. have a good day

edit - Nani was quite a good player by the way
 

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Yes he is, if only because so many people think he is.

But he is not a legend in the order of Best, Law, Charlton and Cantona. Nobody on the planet can say those four are not legends and their legendary status is set in stone.

Ronaldo was our most important player in one of our greatest teams, scored for us in a CL final that we went on to win and was decisive in many crucial games. And he scored memorable goals of every kind for us. I’m pretty shocked there is anyone who says he is not a legend but I don’t take them seriously.
 

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Out of interest, are you counting 06/07 or 08/09 as the half ?
Jesus man I don't remember what I was thinking when I said that 6 years ago!

I've obviously completely changed my opinion since yesterday!
 

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Yes he is, if only because so many people think he is.

But he is not a legend in the order of Best, Law, Charlton and Cantona. Nobody on the planet can say those four are not legends and their legendary status is set in stone.

Ronaldo was our most important player in one of our greatest teams, scored for us in a CL final that we went on to win and was decisive in many crucial games. And he scored memorable goals of every kind for us. I’m pretty shocked there is anyone who says he is not a legend but I don’t take them seriously.
So one season is enough to warrant legendary status ?
 

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Yes he is, if only because so many people think he is.

But he is not a legend in the order of Best, Law, Charlton and Cantona. Nobody on the planet can say those four are not legends and their legendary status is set in stone.

Ronaldo was our most important player in one of our greatest teams, scored for us in a CL final that we went on to win and was decisive in many crucial games. And he scored memorable goals of every kind for us. I’m pretty shocked there is anyone who says he is not a legend but I don’t take them seriously.
Yes, he is a Man Utd legend. It’s true that he played his very best years at Real, but I remember when he appeared for Utd, those early years when he lit up the premiership. We were fecking unstoppable with him and Rooney in their pomp, ripping apart defenses. Such a joy to watch.

He was also a legend at Madrid, of course. But he had enough golden football to go around. He’ll always be a Utd ‘llegend’ for me. It’s quality, not quantity, that I love. I mean feck, Phil Jones has been here forever….

edit- don’t mean to be unkind to Jones here- it was just to make the point. I could have chosen countless others…
 

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Said no and voted no at start of the thread, nothing changed for me. This whole hero returned home is just laughable specially in context of how everything went down.
 

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He came to us as a raw talent and while I won't say we turned him into a winner, because I think he had that built into him, he certainly joined a squad full of winners and a stage for him to develop and shine.

He has the chance now to give that back. He's joining a squad full of talent but without a winning edge - if he can give us that and lead us back to trophies, he will finish one of our biggest ever legends.
 

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I saw the quote and was wondering did I have more pints than I thought last night!
For the record I always thought his 06/07 season was better than 08/09, even though I think he scored several more goals in the latter. I thought 06/07 he had an incredible blend of entertainment and end product, an amazing winger, 08/09 statistically better and scored several screamers but his overall game play lacked something I think. I wonder am I making him personify my overall view of those seasons where we were better in 08/09 but less entertaining. 07/08 a perfect hybrid.
 

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For the record I always thought his 06/07 season was better than 08/09, even though I think he scored several more goals in the latter. I thought 06/07 he had an incredible blend of entertainment and end product, an amazing winger, 08/09 statistically better and scored several screamers but his overall game play lacked something I think. I wonder am I making him personify my overall view of those seasons where we were better in 08/09 but less entertaining. 07/08 a perfect hybrid.
I think I agree with you. If I'm remembering correctly, 06/07 was when we hit that blistering run of form where every time we attacked, you felt we were going to score.

That Bolton game where he and Rooney scored that goal on the counter from their corner was in the middle of that run I think. Still my favourite ever United goal.
 

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If we win the league this season with him, he is an absolute legend!!! The fact that we couldn't win almost anything without him for years, and then he comes back and we win it....
It wont be easy as those Shitty neighbors look very, very good. Chelsea and Liverpool will be good as well. Wont be easy, but our strugle always have been sh1t teams, and Ronaldo is known to dismantle those lesser teams... If he is motivated and if other players feed on that motivation, we will be the force! Ronaldo has capability to bring certain belief that not many players can. I think Messi is a better player than Ronaldo over all when surrounded with right players, but Ronaldo has ability in my opinion to make other players seem better than they are.
I am excited!
 

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I voted no before and I havent changed my mind.

Success + longevity + impact = Legendy status!

Thats my opinion anyway. However, I can understand why people would class him as a legend. The impact he made in his first stint was something we won't see that often.
 

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How could anyone ever vote no?

He is the best player that ever played for us and he pushed us to a champions league, 2 league titles and was vital for the third.
 

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I voted nope and still say nope.

If we get to the end of the season and let's say we see Ronaldo on the Old Trafford pitch handing the Premier League trophy to Sir Alex during some celebrations, maybe I would contemplate changing my vote.
Yup, this is his first real test.

Whatever he achieved with us in the past didn't count at all.
 

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I voted nope and still say nope.

If we get to the end of the season and let's say we see Ronaldo on the Old Trafford pitch handing the Premier League trophy to Sir Alex during some celebrations, maybe I would contemplate changing my vote.
Jesus, we must only have about 4 players in history that you consider club legends.