Premier League Gameweek 3

prateik

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The ball did deflect off his thigh.. but the movement he made with the arm was deliberate.. probably after the contact.. not sure what the rules are anymore..

But that was going in had it not struck the hand so old school rules mean pen .. red means it has to be deliberate handball.. who knows
 

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A pen, but how on earth is that a red card???
Had to be a red as soon as a foul was given. Easiest refereeing decision all weekend. It was deliberate handball and denying of a goalscoring opportunity. Same as David Luiz last year.
 

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That's a pen. Not a red, but pen
Yeah I think the red is harsh too. Maybe there's no flexibility in the rule?

It looked like it hit him somewhere else then went up into his arm. It's probably still a penalty but I'd be quite aggrieved if it led to a red for my team's player too.
 

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Chelsea are such a bunch of sore losing cnuts. Feck off
 

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The way his arm swings made the decision clear, unfortunately it is right.
It's a pen but I have a lot of sympathy and for me it's not a red card. He was trying to knee it out first and the use of the arm I feel was uncontrolled instinct rather than actively trying to cheat. I feel a yellow would have been fair there.
 

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I was thinking to myself, nice use of VAR, quick decision and then he gives a red :lol: Feck this league.
 

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I thought its not handball if it deflects off your own body?
I mean yeah, the thing is the ball is going in. Red also tough because he has absolutely no intention to play with the arm.

I mean I understand both decisions he took. Very harsh for the Chelsea guy who didn't intend to stop the ball but stuff happens
 

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Idiot Chelsea players. Do they really think they’ll get Taylor to rethink the red card?
 

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The ball did deflect off his thigh.. but the movement he made with the arm was deliberate.. probably after the contact.. not sure what the rules are anymore..

But that was going in had it not struck the hand so old school rules mean pen .. red means it has to be deliberate handball.. who knows
Yeah, that's how I saw that too. He made the movement to push the ball.
 

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A pen, but how on earth is that a red card???
For it to be a pen it has to be intentional, and if it’s intentional then it stops a goal so it’s a red card.

Right decision according to the rules but I do think it’s harsh. There’s no way it’s intentional, only an idiot like Suarez does that.
 

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Presume because it stopped the ball going in the net.
Double jepordy is only for intentional actions though. 100% hand ball but I feel James was just instinctively reacting rather than trying to be sly. You can see he tried to use his knee first and it rolled off it, that's why I feel it's a harsh red.
 

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Chelsea can remove Lukaku and bring a defender and there will be no difference