Not really sure what your point is here.
Did Azerbaijan play hoofball? Noone does.
We might not be amazing, but trying to evolve our style of play is absolutely the right thing to do.
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Did Azerbaijan play hoofball? Noone does.
We might not be amazing, but trying to evolve our style of play is absolutely the right thing to do.
With Kenny I think he’s trying to lay foundations for a better future but you gotta take the shit in the present
As others have said, when the "correct" time comes, it'll be too late to try changing style at that point. It takes years.
It's all well and good building for the future but these results are destroying our world rankings which will mean future qualifier groups will be a nightmare
We are looking down the barrel of a long time in the football wilderness. I can’t see things getting better over 3/4 years. More like in a generation or two. We may as well go with whatever youth we can and cap your Grealish and rices at 18 asap in qualifiers before England cop on. Apart from that we do need to bring the football up to modern standard longer term. The results are going to be bad either way so we may as well lose trying to play the right way with the best young players we can find.
We have forwards?
Big problem, for me, is how likely we are to be in a very low pot for the next Euro qualifiers - and it only gets harder to qualify from there. We need to stick with Kenny anyway, I doubt the FAI have the budget to sack him and hire a new manager regardless. The football is brave but the results are the worst they've ever been. Really strange.
Just watching this soccer aid pish. Robbie Keane is still streets ahead of any of the forwards playing for the Republic this afternoon.
We are dead as a decent football nation.
Just too much to fix.
Pretty football is not what international football is about.
People talk about lack of quality but we played a team today that should be whipping boys and they played better than us. The looked better.
We should have enough to beat these lads.
The minnows will be banging the door down to meet us.
Just too much to fix.
Pretty football is not what international football is about.
People talk about lack of quality but we played a team today that should be whipping boys and they played better than us. The looked better.
We should have enough to beat these lads.
The minnows will be banging the door down to meet us.
Agreed. He deserves a chance, IMO
This has to be the worst irish side i remember in the last 30 years.
I feel old when i remember them playing against Germany in 2002 WC group stage...
I feel old when i remember them playing against Germany in 2002 WC group stage...
Can still remember watching their game v Spain that tournament in school!
Anyone that thinks we should be reverting to the old hoofball needs their head checked. If Kenny has to sacrifice a few losses and a campaign to improve the overall way of playing then I'm all for it.
For the last 10 years all we've heard is the complaining about tumescent caveman football. How we should be looking at moving to a more modern style. Despite qualifying for a couple of tournaments playing that way.
Kenny is doing the right thing and the long term view shouldn't be thrown away for a couple of wins in a campaign that we were never going to qualify from anyway.
For the last 10 years all we've heard is the complaining about tumescent caveman football. How we should be looking at moving to a more modern style. Despite qualifying for a couple of tournaments playing that way.
Kenny is doing the right thing and the long term view shouldn't be thrown away for a couple of wins in a campaign that we were never going to qualify from anyway.
Azerbaijan are no whipping boys, they are difficult to play against. There are only really a small handful of sides such as San Marino you would class as whipping boys. The small nations have improved a lot.
Kenny really celebrated that goal at the end someone should tell him Azerbaijan is not the same country as Argentina
So he should not celebrate?
Any reason to pile on him at the moment.
For the sake of talk, he gets fired...... what magical manager is going to come in and get results with the same group of players while rebuilding Irish football? Roy Keane? Big Sam? I don't see how anyone could do better to be honest.
He's trying to fly a plane that's not even built. Ireland need to suck it up and look to the next qualifying cycle. Hopefully by then some of the strikers might be playing regular football, Bazunu will be playing regular football, Doherty might be playing regularly, they'll uncover a CM who can organise the centre of the pitch and pass through lines. As it stands they have Coleman, Duffy and Egan playing high level football regularly. The quality ain't there.
Any reason to pile on him at the moment.
For the sake of talk, he gets fired...... what magical manager is going to come in and get results with the same group of players while rebuilding Irish football? Roy Keane? Big Sam? I don't see how anyone could do better to be honest.
He's trying to fly a plane that's not even built. Ireland need to suck it up and look to the next qualifying cycle. Hopefully by then some of the strikers might be playing regular football, Bazunu will be playing regular football, Doherty might be playing regularly, they'll uncover a CM who can organise the centre of the pitch and pass through lines. As it stands they have Coleman, Duffy and Egan playing high level football regularly. The quality ain't there.
I feel like an Alzhiemers victim in a brothal.
I'm constantly getting screwed, but seem to forget every bloody time.
Ireland cost me 2 grand tonight.
I'm constantly getting screwed, but seem to forget every bloody time.
Ireland cost me 2 grand tonight.
It's Ireland's 3rd sport, which obviously isn't great for a country of around 4 million.
I remember my mum telling me that, back in the day, her cousin came home from school and told his mum that he was going to play rugby and she responded by threatening to break his back... would have been the same if he wanted to play football. We have some great athletes in Ireland but all of the funding is in the GAA and now rugby as well.
I remember my mum telling me that, back in the day, her cousin came home from school and told his mum that he was going to play rugby and she responded by threatening to break his back... would have been the same if he wanted to play football. We have some great athletes in Ireland but all of the funding is in the GAA and now rugby as well.
If you are even a tenth irish you would know unlike England we dont expect to win anything so looking for some weird revenge is pretty pointless. We are well aware how poor we are. We will still enjoy ourselves and then cheer whoever England are playing
An account of a person claiming to be from Salford that supports Chelsea and AFC Wimbeldon, with an Irish mother winding Irish people up about a result against Azerbaijan and I'm the stupid one?You're a clown.
He clearly doesn't have an irish mother as looking at his posts his father would have to be his mother's brother and irish too
Don't let some sad prick derail the thread. It's midnight on a Saturday and he's nothing better to do than try and troll fans of a country ranked 49th in the world. It's honestly quite sad.
I'm half Irish, half English, and I have to say I have absolutely no problems with @P-Ro this thread. I receive all that shite and worse when myself and the housemates are watching England, when I was living in England, it was the same but in reverse. Surely taking the piss is all just part in parcel of football, no?
But how can you make fun of the Irish team when the English cheer their players on week in week out in the premiership and championship? Then you come out and make fun of them now?
sound familiar?
It’s 5 million now, plus help from northern players under GfA agreement makes the catchment closer to 6 or 7 million.
More people than Croatia, only 1 million less than Denmark, half of Portugal but twice as many as Slovenia. Many times more than Luxembourg and Iceland.
I feel like the 3rd sport thing is a very easy excuse because football is really widely played here and really high interest in the game, as much as any other country.
Coaching on the other hand and funding towards it is really lacking, it’s shocking. There’s no full time paid academy coaches here at all, it’s not a job anyone can take, which is shocking for a rich country. Everyone cares about the national team yet ‘there’s no money’ in coaching. We outsourced coaching to Britain for far too long and it’s come back to haunt us.
Yeah it’s dark days ahead I feel. While the young lads have potential, I don’t think we have anyone coming through who you’d look at as being top class like a Robbie Keane. We’ll have another generation that comes through eventually, but I don’t see us qualifying for any of the next 3/4 tournaments. Unless they go ahead with the 32 team euros where San Marino would be in with a shout then
This is it. The FAI sat on their hands for years, happy for English clubs to pick up the best youngsters and train them. Now you see a broken system, a struggling domestic league and a national team visibly struggling under the weight of all these systemic problems. Yet people shout about how we should be beating minnows. Look at Iceland for example, put funding into indoor courts and youth coaching...ten years later they have a generation of decent players come through. Patience is needed
Do Ireland have many players in the 22-28 range?
I feel like there are some positive signs from some of the younger players, and then there are the likes of Coleman/Duffy etc who are close to or above 30, but seems to be a bit of a gap in between.
I feel like there are some positive signs from some of the younger players, and then there are the likes of Coleman/Duffy etc who are close to or above 30, but seems to be a bit of a gap in between.
Not really we did blood a couple of lads like Jack Grealish and Declan Rice but they seemed to just disappear.
I think about six of our lads have played through the youth set ups together and hopefully will come through but as you say we have no one really for the here and now.
True. I agreed with them mostly but it got so predictable it was like they were lobbying the FAI rather than watching individual games.
No you can't be half Irish mate. Your either all or not.
We should have all Ireland football team same as Rugby.
Punch up, not down. Anyone who tries to be funny by punching down comes across as an insufferable wanker. That’s a rule for life. I give it to you free of charge. .
I’d walk away from you in the bar if I heard you say this , all your short is one of those half and half jerseys
It's still very much the same now around a lot of the country.
I know of 3 very good young players who were with a LOI development team up to the age of 14/15 they were playing both sports. Then they got the county call for the development squads and that was it, soccer was just knocked on the head, don't even play for the local club side anymore.
The underage setup for county football is dedicated to coaching the best young players fromt that age up. Every county has a state or art training complex with several pitches and dedicated coaches. There's barely any soccer facilities like them in the whole country, there are club sides who have more money and better facilities than any LOI team.
GAA have put a lot of money into the youth setup around the country. I've been going to both as a coach for a while now and the participation numbers for GAA are easily double that of soccer for most age groups.
This issue of players coming through is not looking like it will get any better any time soon.
58th in the Elo rating which is more accurate than FIFA ranking.
I take a weird view on nationality and think it's all bullshit. That being said, my passport is Irish.
Mehh, when I moved back to Ireland, I considered myself a full on Ireland fan... right up until I celebrated an Irish win and everyone's response was to tell me I don't get to celebrate and that I'm a black and tan cnut. That certainly didn't seem to me like they were punching up.
Not a fan of mudbloods then? Why's that?
Agreed. 2 great posts.
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