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Shame we’re aren’t more like Brighton
@MichaelRed isn’t allowed to celebrate in May when we lift the league trophy!
Europa league?@MichaelRed isn’t allowed to celebrate in May when we lift the league trophy!
I think I have an idea who that oh so sensitive little soul is btw but I won't disclose it cos the sad little manchild has already reported me once for calling him an idiotIt's not so much that @Big Andy has been reported, they're always some melt that reports after whining for 150 posts, it's more than a mod actually felt compelled to give a warning.
Well I was also here when we weren't winning anything under Fergie too. They were days when the media were calling Fergie past it ("shredding his legacy at every turn", etc), Ronaldo being called a show pony, the doom mongers in 2005 calling us the Salford Devils and that we'd be asset stripped etc etc.Imagine comparing it to a time where United were winning everything. Use your head.
You know what, I know you jest at Oles expense but I’d take it. It would mean that Ole had a trophy to his name, had equalled the great Mourinho and the last remaining relevant criticism of Ole had been answered.Europa league?
You think if we won the Europa League Ole would have answered his critics? It would require him dropping out of the CL group stage again, despite the easiest group available, deserving of an immediate sacking tbh.You know what, I know you jest at Oles expense but I’d take it. It would mean that Ole had a trophy to his name, had equalled the great Mourinho and the last remaining relevant criticism of Ole had been answered.
What a pathetic response. For someone around at those times you sure do come across as a child. Anyone who doesn't believe Ole is the right man for the job is just a petulant child with an inadequate, sad little life. You're disgusting.Well I was also here when we weren't winning anything under Fergie too. They were days when the media were calling Fergie past it ("shredding his legacy at every turn", etc), Ronaldo being called a show pony, the doom mongers in 2005 calling us the Salford Devils and that we'd be asset stripped etc etc.
The same stupid agendas we see from the media against Ole and the team he's now building were pretty much there against Fergie and the team he was building. The difference was, the caf was still a welcoming place and was almost a part of the siege mentality that SAF built around the club at the time. Now, it's just a place full of petulant children who can't hack it that the football club they claim to support can't provide the vicarious success to make up for the inadequacies of their sad little lives.
Oops sorry, I said the quiet part out loud. Never mind
You think if we won the Europa League Ole would have answered his critics? It would require him dropping out of the CL group stage again, despite the easiest group available, deserving of an immediate sacking tbh.
Time to step away from the internet friend, you’re taking this way too seriously and way to personally.What a pathetic response. For someone around at those times you sure do come across as a child. Anyone who doesn't believe Ole is the right man for the job is just a petulant child with an inadequate, sad little life. You're disgusting.
Here's a slight difference - Fergie was a proven winner who won numerous titles before that, God knows how many cups and a treble. What has Ole done? Got Cardiff relegated?Well I was also here when we weren't winning anything under Fergie too. They were days when the media were calling Fergie past it ("shredding his legacy at every turn", etc), Ronaldo being called a show pony, the doom mongers in 2005 calling us the Salford Devils and that we'd be asset stripped etc etc.
The same stupid agendas we see from the media against Ole and the team he's now building were pretty much there against Fergie and the team he was building. The difference was, the caf was still a welcoming place and was almost a part of the siege mentality that SAF built around the club at the time. Now, it's just a place full of petulant children who can't hack it that the football club they claim to support can't provide the vicarious success to make up for the inadequacies of their sad little lives.
Oops sorry, I said the quiet part out loud. Never mind
This just shows how little you actually know about anything. DVB and Sancho had the least of the ball of all our players, except Ronaldo. I suggest you actually look at the data...Then why against Young Boys, in a situation where we needed to keep possession so we don't expend all of our energy chasing shadows whilst a man down, did he take sub off Donny and Sancho despite them having the greatest ball retention for us in that game? He kept on direct players who kept going route one and giving the ball away. Pogba and Bruno (the players Ole actually does like) gave possession away 24 times between them & won it back twice. Donny gave it away twice in the first half and won it back 4 times. Yet Donny and Sancho, the intelligent players that can keep the ball and be exactly what you need in midfield when you're a man down, got hooked in favour of the direct players that lose possession repeatedly in favour of taking risks. Ole has shown nothing to suggest he likes players that keep it simple in my opinion and in the game against Young Boys his direct approach 100% cost us on the night. Only a lunatic weakens his midfield after going a man down.
Already have. They gave the ball away the least % out of everyone.This just shows how little you actually know about anything. DVB and Sancho had the least of the ball of all our players, except Ronaldo. I suggest you actually look at the data...
So we will not have patience for any manager who has not won trebles? Good luck with keeping any manager in the job if we are not going give him time.Here's a slight difference - Fergie was a proven winner who won numerous titles before that, God knows how many cups and a treble. What has Ole done? Got Cardiff relegated?
Are the mods now pandering to all impatient and spoiled idiots on here? I guess that's what makes the ads clicks...Jesus Christ, half the people in here are fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
They sail from orgasmic euphoria after tearing Leeds a new one to suicidal depression in the space of a week. There's no middle ground.
To say Ole isn't "tactical" is bollocks. He has his way of setting up the team that is there for all to see. A solid defence, 2 holding protective midfielders and then unleash the front 4 on the counter. It's hardly rocket science. Just because he didn't use "word of the day" terms like Trequartista or Regista, or wave his arms about on the touchline like a chimp on drugs, or gurn about with shit teeth, or you know, tell some no mark reporter who basically asked a loaded question to generate "news", the ins and outs of his system.
Not a single one of you (or me) knows what they are coached, or how. We're top of the league (granted after 4 games), unbeaten away in 28 games, finished 2nd in the league last year, got to a major european final last year, and only lost on the lottery of a penalty shootout. We're miles an miles ahead of where we were just 2 seasons ago, both in terms of results, the general environment about the place, the first XI. It goes beyond what you see in the 90 minutes on the pitch, which lets be honest, is 99% on the players, not the manager once they cross the white lines, and that's notwithstanding red cards in the first 30 minutes, or brainless backpasses, neither of which the managers tactics have any effect on.
Some of you need to wake up and realise that you can't win every game, you need squad players such as Lingard who while they aren't world beaters, they can help the squad at times.
Get behind the manager, support the team, because from reading this, 90% of people seem to be happy for him to fail, so they can get some other "tackticul" manager like say a Conte or a Simeone in, who will alienate the players, play boring football and the fans will then start to moan about that.
Grow up ffs.
How long is patience? 6 years of not winning anything maybe? Let's ask Ronaldo if he's cool with hanging around winning nothing for his 3 year contract yeah?So we will not have patience for any manager who has not won trebles? Good luck with keeping any manager in the job if we are not going give him time.
Yeah, a player who got the ball once and didn't lose it is better than one who got the ball 20 times and lost it twice... I got you.Already have. They gave the ball away the least % out of everyone.
It'll be a better place when holier than thou posters like yourself, who think anybody who doesn't share your opinion is a crybaby, are gone.Are the mods now pandering to all impatient and spoiled idiots on here? I guess that's what makes the ads clicks...
But I really feel that soon the redcafe will just be filled with panicking crybabies and it will lose most of its quality content creating users. I have reduced my reading, nowadays I no longer look at new threads, and I see that the few good posts are being attacked by WUMs and people who base their fandom on tweets.
Unfortunately, there's no going back. I know that this is just how the business works. You need the scandalous, clickbait, dramatic stuff. But I don't.
K. VdB completed 23 of 25 passes and won the ball back 4 times but make up fake stats to fit your rhetoric.Yeah, a player who got the ball once and didn't lose it is better than one who got the ball 20 times and lost it twice... I got you.
Thank you for speaking what's on your mind (and mine).Well I was also here when we weren't winning anything under Fergie too. They were days when the media were calling Fergie past it ("shredding his legacy at every turn", etc), Ronaldo being called a show pony, the doom mongers in 2005 calling us the Salford Devils and that we'd be asset stripped etc etc.
The same stupid agendas we see from the media against Ole and the team he's now building were pretty much there against Fergie and the team he was building. The difference was, the caf was still a welcoming place and was almost a part of the siege mentality that SAF built around the club at the time. Now, it's just a place full of petulant children who can't hack it that the football club they claim to support can't provide the vicarious success to make up for the inadequacies of their sad little lives.
Oops sorry, I said the quiet part out loud. Never mind
How about more than 1 champions league game?How long is patience? 6 years of not winning anything maybe? Let's ask Ronaldo if he's cool with hanging around winning nothing for his 3 year contract yeah?
Oh right, my bad. Forgot Ole was hired on Monday.How about more than 1 champions league game?
You'd think he was, the way you've been posting about him sinceOh right, my bad. Forgot Ole was hired on Monday.
You'd have to be pretty thick to think I've accumlated these opinions over one game and not over his 3 years in charge but okay. You do you.You'd think he was, the way you've been posting about him since
He’s won countless trophies after rebuilding his Molde side. They hadn’t won a thing in decades before him. Cardiff was an anomaly. He actually started his career here coaching the first team for Sir Alex after he was forced to retire and was guided by Sir Alex himself. He led United reserves to the league title in 2010 with players like Pogba, Macheda, Rafael, Mame Diouf, Ben Foster and Corry Evans. He has experience and knowledge, just not at the very top of the game but everybody has to start somewhere and you don’t win at any level without knowing what you are doing.Here's a slight difference - Fergie was a proven winner who won numerous titles before that, God knows how many cups and a treble. What has Ole done? Got Cardiff relegated?
You lost me at “to say Ole isn’t tactical is bollox” comment. What planet are you on? The world and it’s dog can see we are clueless against deep sitting teams -clueless. It’s awful to watch when we know we have such a high quality attacking squad and is thrown into stark contrast by the football played by other teams at the elite level in football. Every team down to Sunday league has some form of tactics. As the quality of the league improves so does the coaching, the fitness, the professionalism and the tactical approach. So yes, Ole has tactics - Are you seriously suggesting fans on here on think that is not the case? It’s the managers apparent dismissive attitude toward how important tactics are that is concerning some fans and rightly so. Try reading the comments and understanding the issue before being dismissive.Jesus Christ, half the people in here are fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
They sail from orgasmic euphoria after tearing Leeds a new one to suicidal depression in the space of a week. There's no middle ground.
To say Ole isn't "tactical" is bollocks. He has his way of setting up the team that is there for all to see. A solid defence, 2 holding protective midfielders and then unleash the front 4 on the counter. It's hardly rocket science. Just because he didn't use "word of the day" terms like Trequartista or Regista, or wave his arms about on the touchline like a chimp on drugs, or gurn about with shit teeth, or you know, tell some no mark reporter who basically asked a loaded question to generate "news", the ins and outs of his system.
Not a single one of you (or me) knows what they are coached, or how. We're top of the league (granted after 4 games), unbeaten away in 28 games, finished 2nd in the league last year, got to a major european final last year, and only lost on the lottery of a penalty shootout. We're miles an miles ahead of where we were just 2 seasons ago, both in terms of results, the general environment about the place, the first XI. It goes beyond what you see in the 90 minutes on the pitch, which lets be honest, is 99% on the players, not the manager once they cross the white lines, and that's notwithstanding red cards in the first 30 minutes, or brainless backpasses, neither of which the managers tactics have any effect on.
Some of you need to wake up and realise that you can't win every game, you need squad players such as Lingard who while they aren't world beaters, they can help the squad at times.
Get behind the manager, support the team, because from reading this, 90% of people seem to be happy for him to fail, so they can get some other "tackticul" manager like say a Conte or a Simeone in, who will alienate the players, play boring football and the fans will then start to moan about that.
Grow up ffs.
The Southampton game was very poor, Newcastle game was ropey at times and Greenwood bailed him out against Wolves. The Leeds game was the only great performance.I'm sure he's feeling pressure after just having signed a new contract, and sitting on top of the league.
This place is getting more ridicolous every single second.
AmenIt'll be a better place when holier than thou posters like yourself, who think anybody who doesn't share your opinion is a crybaby, are gone.
So there you have it. That's how Solskjaer thinks.We have top players, top quality, but that is what I am proud of most as a manager: I try to convince them to run, to run, to run, like the most humble team in the world. They know: if they don't do that, they don't play. They go alongside me on the bench. I can forgive absolutely everything, any mistakes, but if they don't run, they are not with us. They have to fight. I don't like players who think, 'I'm so good, the other 10 play for me'. I don't like that. You run, because afterwards the others will run for you.
You have to run in football, you have to fight, especially in this league. People say a lot of things, but our physicality is always good. How we run, sprint, that is our secret, more than tactics. Our spirit.
Wait until the embargoed quotes come tomorrow eveningNever have i seen a press conference thread stretched to 15 pages and counting in my time on the Caf
Has it been 6 years of ole at the wheel already? Boy that was one long night i had as the last i checked we were into the beginning of ole’s third full season. So now you also have the crystal ball which tells you the future. PM me the winning lottery number for next week too.How long is patience? 6 years of not winning anything maybe? Let's ask Ronaldo if he's cool with hanging around winning nothing for his 3 year contract yeah?
That's not a comment on tactics but attitude. I doubt there's a coach out there who would disagreeWhy are any of you surprised?
Solskjaer has always said stuff like that, emphasizing running, physicality, spirit, work rate over tactics or quality. It's what he is about, like it or not.
Here are quotes from his interview on MNF with Neville, way back:
So there you have it. That's how Solskjaer thinks.
quite the contrary: I was praising you for learning, however humiliating it might be for you to do so.Are you holding a grudge because I challenged your view that Ole should freeze out Lingard for refusing a transfer?
That's so sad. You poor soul.
I believe it's 2 with the option of a third.How long is patience? 6 years of not winning anything maybe? Let's ask Ronaldo if he's cool with hanging around winning nothing for his 3 year contract yeah?
You think someone like, say, Pep would agree that tactics matter less than running and physicality?That's not a comment on tactics but attitude. I doubt there's a coach out there who would disagree
Except he says more than tactics at the endThat's not a comment on tactics but attitude. I doubt there's a coach out there who would disagree
If you think Ferguson "relied" on anyone for tactics then you are a fool.But that isn't necessarily damning in and of itself, as it's perfectly valid to rely on your coaches to deal with tactical specifics. As SAF did with Carlos Queiroz, for example. And I wouldn't have expected SAF to go into technical detail in a press conference either.
Learn to read. I'm asking if 6 years is enough patience since you think 3 years isn't.Has it been 6 years of ole at the wheel already? Boy that was one long night i had as the last i checked we were into the beginning of ole’s third full season. So now you also have the crystal ball which tells you the future. PM me the winning lottery number for next week too.
I wouldn't place any stock in what Pep says. The guy does his best work on the pitch and like the City supporters club chief said, he should stick to coaching.You think someone like, say, Pep would agree that tactics matter less than running and physicality?
How much more patience do you personally have in your locker? I'm talking about support. You seem rather disenchanted with the team,club,managementLearn to read. I'm asking if 6 years is enough patience since you think 3 years isn't.