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How long before he realises he'll be the poster boy for these Farrage twats and decides he's better off staying the course?
How long before he realises he'll be the poster boy for these Farrage twats and decides he's better off staying the course?
The sensible thing to do. Unfortunately Marcos isn’t a very sensible lad, as proven by his past.Well I guess it's his choice and forcing him to do it kind of ruins the message really.
That said, if I was a player (which I'm not) and was white (which I am) I personally would keep taking the knee as long as my non-white teammates still thought it was having a good impact. I don't feel qualified to make that choice.
Can't argue with that. But one of the arguments used by the anti-kneeling sector is that players only do it because they feel pressured into it, and the people vilifying him for not wanting to do it anymore are kind of fuelling that argument. He should be vilified for causing a death in a drunk-driving accident, not for making a choice to point to something instead of kneel, however unhelpful we think that choice is.The sensible thing to do. Unfortunately Marcos isn’t a very sensible lad, as proven by his past.
Boob?a feel good factor just like a ____ job.
Yeah, he's like Piers Morgan or Katie Hopkins, if he starts praising your decision, you start second-guessing it.Seriously though, if I would've done something that got Farage's outspoken approval, I would've thought long and hard about what did I do wrong. It's the perfect litmus test.
It does feel like it's starting to be pointed to by certain higher-ups to distract from a lack of action in other areas. Does anyone remember what happened to Hungary after the England game where Sterling and other players got racially abused?It's not necessarily there to be 'effective'. It's there so that no-one watching football can forget the racism still engrained into it. Because the black players receiving this horrible abuse don't get to just ignore it, so why should the rest of us?
Duh, it's decent to be racist.I know, but of all the words he could have chosen ('common sense', 'the common people', whatever), he went with 'decency' and I really don't get that one.
Due diligence?Over-under on DD mentions in this thread = 5?
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Ah! Always overlooking the obvious, me.Duh, it's decent to be racist.
Pamela Anderson?Over-under on DD mentions in this thread = 5?
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Nah this is too simplistic and wishful thinking. Kids won't even understand the term "kneeling against racial injustice" and what it actually means. So long as their parents and people around them are racist they will be too. We could kneel for Palestine and people in Israel will still think the same of them. There have been black sportsman for years and people would love MJ but hate black men. Many wypipo will prefer to have their heads in the sand and pretend racism doesn't exist or they simply ignore it because they don't see it day to day. People also don't get their life views from sports people. that said if they want to kneel then cool. If they don't, I don't care either.Losing it's effectiveness. What an absolute Muppet. Something as deeply ingrained as racism isn't going to vanish overnight. But, kids aren't born racist. If you've got the biggest most watched league spreading awareness and making generations growing up ask "why are they doing this?" and the overwhelming message from people they look up to is "because it's wrong" then these are exactly the kind of acts that the world needs to see.
Oh it hasn't "cured" racism? No shit. Is it making racism more spoken about in the media? Yes. If it empowers people to say to their friends that what they're saying or doing isn't Ok then it's worth people kneeling before a game. It's not like it takes any effort or has any single negative effect. All it has is a positive effect. How anyone can be against that baffles me.
Dunk diving.
As easy as that.Well I guess it's his choice and forcing him to do it kind of ruins the message really.
That said, if I was a player (which I'm not) and was white (which I am) I personally would keep taking the knee as long as my non-white teammates still thought it was having a good impact. I don't feel qualified to make that choice.
Bit of a stretch?He is racist. He is on par with people who refuse to take the vaccine.
Sad but true. I don’t want to say majority but maybe I’m just kidding myselfProbably please the problematic majority of Chelsea fans.
Hes been phenomenal for chelsea this yearMost shocking thing about this for me is to learn that he still starts matches.
Although he does have a point regarding the woke mob.It’s Nigel Farage, you’re looking in the wrong place for any kind of logic.
Does he?Although he does have a point regarding the woke mob.
Well if he's referring to the always offended by pretty much anything brigade, then yes.Does he?
Agreed to be honest. How long do we want to demand players to do this? 5 years? 10 years? Even a couple of non-white footballers themselves don't really see the value anymore.It is terrible to see racism in football grounds even in this day and age, but “taking the knee” cannot go on forever before every football match. Some players have been doing it (American) since 2016, IIRC.
I know it is a brilliant gesture and only takes a few seconds, but after so many months of routinely doing it, I won’t be condescending of players who prefer to support the cause in ways other than taking the knee.
Yeah the solidarity message has been done to death now. It's about time it got feckin dealt with by the authorities and the Internet giants.Agreed to be honest. How long do we want to demand players to do this? 5 years? 10 years? Even a couple of non-white footballers themselves don't really see the value anymore.
I think it's more powerful to expose racist messages like a couple of footballers have done. Show these messages on social media, and have the cops deal with it.
Did you feel the same when Zaha decided to not take the knee?He is racist. He is on par with people who refuse to take the vaccine.