Solskjær press conference vs Aston Villa (H)

[#07]

 

[royboy16]

Ole says we dont get pens because of Klopp p.

 

[chiz2kul]

rent free?

 

[UnitedSofa]

Ole with a nice dig at Klopp there in regards to lack of penalties

 

[UnofficialDevil]

So he plans to play Cavani and Ronaldo together? How, Ronaldo on the wing?

 

[Maticmaker]

Was that Ole indicating we might see CR and Cavani on the pitch at the same time, or did I misunderstand his version of partnership?

 

[groovyalbert]

Was that Ole indicating we might see CR and Cavani on the pitch at the same time, or did I misunderstand his version of partnership?

I think in instances like v West Ham when we're trying to break down a low block. Both would show more energy, desire and track back than Martial regardless of ages.

That said, both are penalty box strikers so it's hard to see them not taking up similar spaces.

 

[Judas]

3-5-2?

 

[Maticmaker]

I think in instances like v West Ham when we're trying to break down a low block. Both would show more energy, desire and track back than Martial regardless of ages.

That said, both are penalty box strikers so it's hard to see them not taking up similar spaces.

Yes, that's possible ...when we are camped outside/edge of the opponents box, having them two creating havoc would be great!!

 

[Gandalf]

I think in instances like v West Ham when we're trying to break down a low block. Both would show more energy, desire and track back than Martial regardless of ages.

That said, both are penalty box strikers so it's hard to see them not taking up similar spaces.

Ronaldo played alongside Benzema so can't see it being an issue. A front 3 of Ronaldo/Cavani and either Rashford or Greenwood would give defenses fits.

 

[big rons sovereign]

Was that Ole indicating we might see CR and Cavani on the pitch at the same time, or did I misunderstand his version of partnership?

"Four four feckin two"....

 

[united_99]

Klopp made his comments back in January about United's penalties. Ferguson would have responded immediately. Unless I've missed something, Solskjaer has taken 8 months to fire back.

He did respond immediately back then.
However in the last few games we have been denied clear pens so he is now reacting to it again.

 

[izak]

I'll love to see Ronnie and Cavani up top too, but how can we fit then all in with Pogba, Bruno and Greenwood?

 

[Lash]

I think in instances like v West Ham when we're trying to break down a low block. Both would show more energy, desire and track back than Martial regardless of ages.

That said, both are penalty box strikers so it's hard to see them not taking up similar spaces.

I'm not so sure tbh, the amount of times we've seen Ronaldo pick the ball up corner of the box and driving in, they could combine really well.

 

[Withnail]

I think in instances like v West Ham when we're trying to break down a low block. Both would show more energy, desire and track back than Martial regardless of ages.

That said, both are penalty box strikers so it's hard to see them not taking up similar spaces.

Cavani regularly played RW at PSG to accommodate Zlatan and Ronaldo can play wide so it could be one on a wing and one CF or we could play two up top with each drifting to their respective wings.

 

[#07]

So he plans to play Cavani and Ronaldo together? How, Ronaldo on the wing?

There's no point taking much of what Ole says in pressers at face value. He also said Chris Smalling would be reintegrated into the first team squad and Alexis Sanchez would come back and surprise people. After Wednesday night's game he was bigging up Martial.

All Ole's answers are designed at promoting squad harmony, diffusing journalist questions or diverting attention onto something else e.g., today reminding people Klopp moaned about our penalties. Much easier to blame Klopp than blame the referees but the effect will be the same: scrutiny on penalty decisions we're denied gets increased.

Anything he says about systems, who might play with who or who might not play, just take with a pinch of salt.

 

[pascell]

I'll love to see Ronnie and Cavani up top too, but how can we fit then all in with Pogba, Bruno and Greenwood?

Only way is a diamond and Greenwood on the bench

 

[Teja]

3-5-2?

I think effectively it'll be something like what we play with Rashford on the LW. Ronaldo will stay forward most of the time. Pogba (/LCM) has to shift and cover defensively on the LW. Fred will occupy the space vacated by Pogba and Cavani will drop into the space vacated by Fred.

I don't think it's a great solution to our struggles against low blocks. We've seen what happens with Rashford + Cavani + Greenwood - no creativity / shoot first type of players. If Bruno plays well, we play well, otherwise we struggle.

In defence:

------- Ronaldo ------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------- Greenwood ---
-- Pogba -- Fred -- Cavani -------------------------
-- Shaw --- Maguire -- Varane --- AwB --------

 

[Dante]

One clean sheet in last 15 matches

"It just shows the angle you're looking at and thinking, I'd rather score four or five or two and concede one than win 1-0. We're still working on the cohesion with Raphael coming in. Working progress, we wanna have clean sheets to build performances from as well, we know we're gonna score goals, hopefully I can answer at the weekend with a clean sheet but it is being moved on, of course."

Assessment of the season so far

"It's early doors but it's important the first two months you're not giving teams a head start and so far 13 points, decent return, scored quite a few goals, still things to work on and there'll be difficult challenges ahead, but we've laid a foundation to build momentum and hope to do that against Aston Villa. First defeat but then hit form and deserve more points."

Cavani and Ronaldo experience

"It's exciting and exciting to see those two together, I'm sure that'll be a good partnership as well, we see teams dropping deep against us, not giving space in behind and they're two boys you'd like to see in that scenario, I can see those two working well together."

Cristiano Ronaldo already undroppable?

"We knew he was gonna have a great impact on and off the pitch and Cristiano is still so professional, the discipline he's showed throughout his career to make the most of it has rubbed off on teammates. Been delighted, he's a different man now to when I played with him.
"He's been absolutely top, work-rate, attitude into games, communication, he knows he's not going to play every game but that's a good chat to have with me when he won't be ready."

Solskjaer on the Ryder Cup

"It is too late for me to jump on that bandwagon! I won't be biting my nails for sure, I have got more things to worry about."

Solskjaer suggests Jurgen Klopp comments could have influenced their lack of penalties

"We just have to hope we get what we deserve, we should have had three pens in the last two games, there was a certain manager who worried about us getting pens last year and after that the decisions were different to give, I've seen a big difference since then on. Leave it to the refs and make the right calls very soon."

Safe standing stance

"I know we are supportive, we wanna trial that, as long as the safety is in place, standing, for me, gives the atmosphere builds, when you stand up, you're more passionate and emotional so I'm looking forward to that if everything goes to plan."

Edinson Cavani in squad vs Aston Villa

"He's in the squad tomorrow, he's been training and now he feels ready to contribute. He came on against Wolverhampton, then he got a slight strain in the international break when we had a game and he's ready again. he's worked really hard and diligently and hopefully he'll have an impact as he did last season."

Cristiano Ronaldo importance

"I think Cristiano has been used to that ever since he came to the club, maybe more in the last 15 years of his career, in his first few years everyone tried to kick him because you wanted to stop him and then he became such a top player everyone had to have an eye on him, his record, he's used to that challenge, we're a team, more than just Cristiano and the players I've got to choose from would enjoy if they had too much of an eye on Cristiano, it might give space for others."

David de Gea's return to form

"He did call me in the summer to end his summer holiday earlier and come back and start his pre-season before, he wanted to be ready, the best possible version of himself.
"Last season was a challenging one, he didn't play as many games because Dean came in and did very well. David has really worked, focused, physically and mentally he's better and when you feel you've done the work, personal best, a few physical tests, it gives you more confidence and motivation. He plays behind a strong back four but to play in front of David when he's in this form is good for them."

United team news vs Villa and Cavani role confirmed

"Edinson has joined in training fully after that game [on Wednesday] and he’s held his hand up and is ready," Solskjaer told MUTV.
"Last season as well, he didn't have a pre-season when he came here. He's so professional and meticulous and, of course, we're glad to now have him back training with us and in the squad.
"We didn't lose anyone on Wednesday night," he added. "It gives me selection headaches [smiles], which is what I'd rather have than the other way around. Sometimes you have to leave players out that you don't feel deserve to be left out.
“But that's the nature of the beast and we've got to make sure we are ready for every single game."

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...r-united-press-conference-highlights-21663873

 

[wolvored]

He did respond immediately back then.
However in the last few games we have been denied clear pens so he is now reacting to it again.

Yes and coming across as a prick to non utd folks. Just get on with it.

 

[big rons sovereign]

Yes and coming across as a prick to non utd folks. Just get on with it.

Seriously?

 

[Berbasbullet]

Yes and coming across as a prick to non utd folks. Just get on with it.

Who cares?

Everyone hates united with a passion, nothing can be said to suddenly make united be liked.

 

[Counterfactual]

Yes and coming across as a prick to non utd folks. Just get on with it.

... because "non utd folks" loved him so much before.

 

[united_99]

Yes and coming across as a prick to non utd folks. Just get on with it.

Who cares about non utd folks?

 

[wolvored]

Well put it this way, we would all have been laughing at klopp if it was the other way around. Just saying.

 

[Becks00]

Yes and coming across as a prick to non utd folks. Just get on with it.

Who cares what non utd folks think and the refs shouldn't. That's the whole point, the refs should do their job and not be influenced.

 

[Glorio]

There's no point taking much of what Ole says in pressers at face value. He also said Chris Smalling would be reintegrated into the first team squad and Alexis Sanchez would come back and surprise people. After Wednesday night's game he was bigging up Martial.

All Ole's answers are designed at promoting squad harmony, diffusing journalist questions or diverting attention onto something else e.g., today reminding people Klopp moaned about our penalties. Much easier to blame Klopp than blame the referees but the effect will be the same: scrutiny on penalty decisions we're denied gets increased.

Anything he says about systems, who might play with who or who might not play, just take with a pinch of salt.

This. Such a WUM in these pressers is our Ole. Funny thing is after the fact, no one calls him up on it.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Well put it this way, we would all have been laughing at klopp if it was the other way around. Just saying.

You're weird. His job is to win matches and if this gets the team some penalties then it works. Who cares who is laughing.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Ole says we dont get pens because of Klopp p.

What a surprise. The Liverpool (and Pep) loving sycophants at the BBC turn this into one of their main online stories.

Journalists? You're having a laugh.

BBC independent? My arse.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Ole says we dont get pens because of Klopp p.

What? He didn’t say that. BBC are awful.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Yes and coming across as a prick to non utd folks. Just get on with it.

As opposed to people who come across as pricks to United fans?

 

[#07]

This. Such a WUM in these pressers is our Ole. Funny thing is after the fact, no one calls him up on it.

Honestly, as a player, I'd start getting worried if Ole praised me lots in a press conference. Loads of the time when he does that he's softening the blow of getting dropped.

With the stars of the team he will never praise them OTT. Even today with Cristiano its all: Yeah he's great and if they mark him to closely they'll leave space for my other great players.

With Ole its all about trying to keep morale up inside the group.

 

[Gandalf]

Well put it this way, we would all have been laughing at klopp if it was the other way around. Just saying.

Well to put it another way if you check social media he has been getting slaughtered by United fans over the last few days for not saying anything so once again he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Fact is, if he sits there with his mouth shut it carries on, Klopp clearly put his finger on the scale with his whining (god that man can whine) and so unless Ole speaks up the refs will continue to consciously or unconsciously be biased against giving us decisions.

 

[King Azaz the Unabridged]

I'll love to see Ronnie and Cavani up top too, but how can we fit then all in with Pogba, Bruno and Greenwood?

It'll happen against the Newcastles and Burnleys of the league that turn up to Old Trafford and sit in their box, most likely.

Don't need Pogba on the wing in those games so it'll be much more useful to stick Ronaldo on the left and let him go where he wants, add some more presence and movement in the box

 

[wolvored]

Well to put it another way if you check social media he has been getting slaughtered by United fans over the last few days for not saying anything so once again he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Fact is, if he sits there with his mouth shut it carries on, Klopp clearly put his finger on the scale with his whining (god that man can whine) and so unless Ole speaks up the refs will continue to consciously or unconsciously be biased against giving us decisions.

I can believe some refs are fans of other teams and/or not keen on Utd and this could influence decisions, but not unconscious bias of what Klopp said.

 

[Okey]

So he plans to play Cavani and Ronaldo together? How, Ronaldo on the wing?

I think the journos are the ones who asked about it, and Ole gave his diplomatic best. Not sure if he actually has any such plans himself.

 

[Amarsdd]

I can believe some refs are fans of other teams and/or not keen on Utd and this could influence decisions, but not unconscious bias of what Klopp said.

I would normally agree with you. But the timing was rather conspicuous last season when we started getting obvious decisions against us after Klopp started moaning, and the same the season before when Lampard complained right before the FA cup semifinal.

 

[Lucky *7*]

I think you'll blunt Ronaldo's impact and goal scoring if you shift him out on the wing for Cavani you'll regret it he doesn't have the legs anymore to beat a man consistently and won't track back plus they'll be treading on each other's toes as they want to attack the same spaces.. it's a disaster waiting to happen IMO. Only should be used when we are chasing a game and desperate for a goal.

We are playing well, scoring goals and top of the league (joint) with Ronaldo as our number 9 not Cavani.. why change a winning team when it isn't broken Ole? And when it doesn't work then what go back to Ronaldo as number 9 to salvage our season when it's too late?! this is typical Ole.. trying to shoe-horn players into the team even if it upsets the teams rhythm/balance.. can't Ole just leave a winning team?

bring Cavani on when we are chasing a game and need a plan B yes it'll be amazing the best plan B.. but starting him no. You can afford to carry 1 older players.. but not 2.. it'll be like playing with 9 men especially when Ronaldo isn't tracking back (leading to the opposition scoring) and scoring goals people on this forum and the media will attack him when it's not his fault because Ole should've kept the same (winning) team..

 

[Siorac]

What? He didn’t say that. BBC are awful.

He pretty much did say that, come on now. And there's nothing wrong with it either. After the decisions in the last couple of games, he needed to call them out one way or another.

 

[izak]

I would normally agree with you. But the timing was rather conspicuous last season when we started getting obvious decisions against us after Klopp started moaning, and the same the season before when Lampard complained right before the FA cup semifinal.

So if Lampard, Pep, Klopp talked about us getting more Pens and Ole in his quote said "Certain manager" but why has the Media point Ole's quote towards Klopp was he the first at the time to point it out?