Next permanent manager | Poll updated

[Water Melon]

Conte or Zidane are obvious candidates. Both are available. Ffs, Barca will fire Koeman soon, while we will still be waiting until it is mathematically impossible to finish top 4. We have missed on so many top coaches, it is high time we finally get one.

 

[RedTiger]

Diego Simeone. We won't concede and there's definitely patterns of play as well.

 

[Flytan]

Sorry, this isn't just aimed at you, but Conte would be a disaster.

We've seen with Moyes, LvG, and Mou how damaging it is to bring in managers with vastly differing philosophies/styles, bringing in Conte would result in another reset.

To be fair Ole doesn't really have a philosophy. But yeah, it's a risk, but we need to stop being safe. It's what made us sign Ole originally. We were afraid of the optics of not hiring him. That backfired too.

 

[AshRK]

I think Conte and Zidane are risks too. It's the Liverpool post 80s approach - sign coaches based on their name rather than the actual football they play. We tried it with Van Gaal and Mourinho already. Conte can be a winner, but he signed loads of old players for Inter and the competition in the PL is a lot harder than it is in Serie A. Are we really willing to let him spend hundreds of millions on old players, for a not particularly great brand of football with no guarantee of success?

I think we should go back to the basics approach and appoint someone like Potter for two reasons
1) Brighton some great football. They give even the best teams in the league a game with inferior players
2) He's built a very good squad at Brighton. We could use someone who can identify players with potential and not simply go for every exotic sounding £70m player. We need to build a team.

Zidane's even more of a risk, he had a prime Real Madrid squad with basically a world class player in every position given to him. No one knows if he can build a squad or not.

I like potter but feel the job could be too big for him. People sometimes don't understand the pressure one has while managing a club like United. Couple of losses here and there and you will have people call him a "championship manager who is out of depth". I feel we need a trophy or two. I won't mind Zidane. Tuchel would have been my ideal choice but he is gone. Conte is a risk. We may min a trophy but feel he may need players to suit his style.

 

[sullydnl]

As good a managers Zidane and Conte both are I personally hope we steer clear and instead bring in a coach with a attack minded approach to the game that has the potential to excite the fans. Nagelsmann and Rose don't look like viable options as things stand due to only joining Bayern and Dortmund recently. So I'm personally hoping we go for a coach who understands the requirements for the modern game and would hope we look at Ten Hag, who I believe coaches a exciting brand of football which in it's nature looks to exert control over the opposition. He's also someone that has shown he can develop youth and help a team punch above their weight whilst competing against the best in Europe. And contrary to what's been said about him in here, I believe he would have the tools already at the club to implement his style of play.

And I firmly believe if we were to win the league or UCL under Ten Hag it would live long in the memory due to the exciting brand of football he would likely have us playing imo.

This would be my thinking too.

On a fundamental level, whoever we hire whenever Solskjaer leaves has to be someone who suits our current playing personnel. Which to my mind is an attack-orientated coach. And I want that coach to be fully engaged with the way top level football is trending, which is towards more detail orientated, tactical coaching.

Of the options I'm aware of Ten Hag is the best bet, though I'm not exactly tuning in to the Dutch league every week so for all I know he isn't up to the job either.

 

[Bertie 2 Hats]

In the 3 seasons as Barcelona manager Luis Enrique won - La Liga : 2014–15, 2015–16... Copa del Rey : 2014–15, 2015–16, 2016–17... Supercopa de Espana : 2016... UEFA Champions League : 2014–15... UEFA Super Cup : 2015... FIFA Club World Cup : 2015... He's got to be in the mix for our next manager.

 

[Yorkeontop]

I think Conte and Zidane are risks too. It's the Liverpool post 80s approach - sign coaches based on their name rather than the actual football they play. We tried it with Van Gaal and Mourinho already. Conte can be a winner, but he signed loads of old players for Inter and the competition in the PL is a lot harder than it is in Serie A. Are we really willing to let him spend hundreds of millions on old players, for a not particularly great brand of football with no guarantee of success?

I think we should go back to the basics approach and appoint someone like Potter for two reasons
1) Brighton some great football. They give even the best teams in the league a game with inferior players
2) He's built a very good squad at Brighton. We could use someone who can identify players with potential and not simply go for every exotic sounding £70m player. We need to build a team.

Zidane's even more of a risk, he had a prime Real Madrid squad with basically a world class player in every position given to him. No one knows if he can build a squad or not.

Not sure this is true. We would need to change the shape of the team quite substantially, his style is awful and he is an extremely short term option anyway. There are much better options out there.

Sorry, this isn't just aimed at you, but Conte would be a disaster.

We've seen with Moyes, LvG, and Mou how damaging it is to bring in managers with vastly differing philosophies/styles, bringing in Conte would result in another reset.

I just don't buy this idea that Conte = reset. This team is ready to win now and I can't believe a Conte wouldn't recognise that. Ancelotti would have been perfect.

 

[el3mel]

Sorry, this isn't just aimed at you, but Conte would be a disaster.

We've seen with Moyes, LvG, and Mou how damaging it is to bring in managers with vastly differing philosophies/styles, bringing in Conte would result in another reset.

Almost half of the narratives said about Conte here are complete bollocks.

He's not as defensive as current Mourinho, his teams are just balanced and organized. He knows how to build a team who can pass the ball and attack. He's just not a high pressing manager, but he's not a parking bus manager at all.

He also doesn't throw the towel when he has problems with the board, even when he's pressing them or moaning about the transfers, he never lets it affect his work or the team's performance. He moaned nonstop at Inter and the team still won the league.

There will be no need for reset. He'll have an elite team here with versatile option and will easily be able to utilize them. It's not a big deal.

Finally, some here even said that he leaves teams in shambles after he left which was a complete bollocks as well. Juve dominated the league after he left, Chelsea finished 3rd and won EL the season after he left, and now Inter is having a great start for the current season after he left.

So yeah, imo most of narratives said about Conte here I honestly don't know their basis. Feels like some were watching a different manager than the one we saw dominate the league with Chelsea.

 

[AshRK]

No it's true. Some here mock anyone who dares to talk about patterns of play, modern football and systems in order to defend Ole's haphazard football. Some here were mocking Nagelsmann all the time because some were convinced he's a better manager than Ole.

There're indeed fans here who think modern football doesn't exist, something invented by young football fans and Ole's way is the real football way.

There's always some but to say half of our fanbase would say Ole is superior manager to a Nagelsmann or Klopp or Pep is a stupid statement. Also, many go that route because the abuse and mocking Ole has been getting. I don't think half of our fanbase would say Ole is better than even Potter.

 

[Relevated]

Diego Simeone. We won't concede and there's definitely patterns of play as well.

Hes very passionate also, and he is a respectable manager who has a good track record of working with big players and commanding respect.

 

[Paxi]

I would take Antonio Conte all day long. His football isn’t as bad as it’s made out. Chelsea played some decent football with him in charge and he’s a league winning machine and we need to win the league now.

He also doesn’t take no shit from the players or the board which is good to see imo. Conte would be my first choice with Zidane second and Rodgers as third.

 

[The Hilton]

To be fair Ole doesn't really have a philosophy. But yeah, it's a risk, but we need to stop being safe. It's what made us sign Ole originally. We were afraid of the optics of not hiring him. That backfired too.

It's not about being safe, it's about being sensible. Ole clear does have a philosophy, and he's put together a bloody good squad, that could be honed with a more accomplished manager in the same vein.

Bringing in Conte would be an extremely short term move, and would damage us in the long term, to the point we'd need to bring Ole back to steady the ship all over again.

 

[el3mel]

There's always some but to say half of our fanbase would say Ole is superior manager to a Nagelsmann or Klopp or Pep is a stupid statement. Also, many go that route because the abuse and mocking Ole has been getting. I don't think half of our fanbase would say Ole is better than even Potter.

Actually the people who say that are just agitated some fans dare to believe there're other managers who are better than Ole, so they go on a quest to prove such managers are shit. People believed Nagelsmann is better than Ole, how dare they ? From now on we'll wait for every single RB loss and storm Nagelsmann thread to prove he's a shit coach and Ole is far superior.

This actually happened.

 

[sdb4884]

Simeone if I had to pick one but I hardly think he will pack up and leave A.Madrid as current champions and currently 2nd in the league.

Conte would be the obvious choice, champion in England and also won the Serie A last season at Inter.

 

[Yorkeontop]

Bringing in Conte would be an extremely short term move, and would damage us in the long term, to the point we'd need to bring Ole back to steady the ship all over again.

Do you not believe this team is ready to win now? We wouldn't be asking Conte to build something up. John Murtough needs to do his job and lay down the parameters for Conte. We don't hire Conte if he wants a rebuild.

 

[AshRK]

Actually the people who say that are just agitated some fans dare to believe there're other managers who are better than Ole, so they go on a quest to prove such managers are shit. People believed Nagelsmann is better than Ole, how dare they ? From now on we'll wait for every single RB loss and storm Nagelsmann thread to prove he's a shit coach and Ole is far superior.

This actually happened.

There will always be some. There are also people who think Ole is a worse manager than all the Championship managers. You can't term some as half of the fanbase.

But yes the issue is our fans base really like to back the manager till the hill. Happened with Jose and now happening with Ole.

 

[Flytan]

It's not about being safe, it's about being sensible. Ole clear does have a philosophy, and he's put together a bloody good squad, that could be honed with a more accomplished manager in the same vein.

Bringing in Conte would be an extremely short term move, and would damage us in the long term, to the point we'd need to bring Ole back to steady the ship all over again.

The team is already ready to win. No reason to not just go for it. Also don't think Conte has left teams in that bad of shape.

 

[spiriticon]

I really like Mancini's football at the Euros but I can't see an ex-City manager coming.

Conte..ugh...Ok i guess.

 

[Adnan]

Ten Hag or Luis Enrique!!!

Feel like our board will mess up anyway.

I personally think the recruitment team who also happen to be part of the transfer committee, will have a major say in who is selected if it comes down to appointing a new manager. And Marcel Bout who has worked for the KNVB, Bayern Munich and at United will be part of that group of people who imo have a big influence on who the next coach will be. And i'm sure he will be familiar with Ten Hag.

 

[git_united]

Unpopular opinion…Frank Lampard.

 

[AjaxCunian]

I personally think the recruitment team who also happen to be part of the transfer committee, will have a major say in who is selected if it comes down to appointing a new manager. And Marcel Bout who has worked for the KNVB, Bayern Munich and at United will be part of that group of people who imo have a big influence on who the next coach will be. And i'm sure he will be familiar with Ten Hag.

Insightful post, I'd hope so.

Would he have been involved in the hiring of Solksjaer I must ask?

 

[rk4utd]

We have missed the boat with every manager appointment since Fergie - others appoint up and coming ambitious coaches - we appointment has beens never beens and sentimental ole to appeal to our fan base - never meant to be more than caretaker - gets rewarded for 2 poor season ends with 2x new contract - the board couldn’t appoint a brewer to run a pub let alone a coach to sort our bloody midfield and attaching full backs out…

 

[Sarni]

Almost half of the narratives said about Conte here are complete bollocks.

He's not as defensive as current Mourinho, his teams are just balanced and organized. He knows how to build a team who can pass the ball and attack. He's just not a high pressing manager, but he's not a parking bus manager at all.

He also doesn't throw the towel when he has problems with the board, even when he's pressing them or moaning about the transfers, he never lets it affect his work or the team's performance. He moaned nonstop at Inter and the team still won the league.

There will be no need for reset. He'll have an elite team here with versatile option and will easily be able to utilize them. It's not a big deal.

Finally, some here even said that he leaves teams in shambles after he left which was a complete bollocks as well. Juve dominated the league after he left, Chelsea finished 3rd and won EL the season after he left, and now Inter is having a great start for the current season after he left.

So yeah, imo most of narratives said about Conte here I honestly don't know their basis. Feels like some were watching a different manager than the one we saw dominate the league with Chelsea.

Conte is also terrible in European competition. He’s good in the league but struggles a lot against quality teams. As I said, there are better options out there.

 

[GMoore23]

I'm still pro Ole but doubts are growing. The next 2 games are crucial. On a potential replacement, don't want either Conte or Zidane. Zidane isn't a United manager and Conte, although absolute world class, is a maniac and would leave us in a crisis like Mourinho. He'd probably win us a league though.
If Ole is to flop this season, I'm still of the opinion that Brendan Rodgers is the man for the job. Great man manager so would be a good transition from Ole and he knows how to get a team playing quality football which we really are being starved of at the moment.
Won the Fa Cup also with a far less talented squad than we have.

 

[The Hilton]

Almost half of the narratives said about Conte here are complete bollocks.

He's not as defensive as current Mourinho, his teams are just balanced and organized. He knows how to build a team who can pass the ball and attack. He's just not a high pressing manager, but he's not a parking bus manager at all.

He also doesn't throw the towel when he has problems with the board, even when he's pressing them or moaning about the transfers, he never lets it affect his work or the team's performance. He moaned nonstop at Inter and the team still won the league.

There will be no need for reset. He'll have an elite team here with versatile option and will easily be able to utilize them. It's not a big deal.

Finally, some here even said that he leaves teams in shambles after he left which was a complete bollocks as well. Juve dominated the league after he left, Chelsea finished 3rd and won EL the season after he left, and now Inter is having a great start for the current season after he left.

So yeah, imo most of narratives said about Conte here I honestly don't know their basis. Feels like some were watching a different manager than the one we saw dominate the league with Chelsea.

There's so much hyperbole in your post it spilled out of my monitor while reading it.

Conte absolutely did cause problems at Chelsea, did quit Inter due to problems with the board, and he didn't dominate the league - in two seasons he won it once and then finished in the EL places. It's about as short term as you can get.

 

[golden_blunder]

Not that I’m advocating for ole to go

But if we do;

Rodgers
Ten Haag
Potter

Would all have us playing good football, but challenging I’m not sure

Probably Conte is the ‘safe’ bet

 

[Devil_forever]

I personally think the recruitment team who also happen to be part of the transfer committee, will have a major say in who is selected if it comes down to appointing a new manager. And Marcel Bout who has worked for the KNVB, Bayern Munich and at United will be part of that group of people who imo have a big influence on who the next coach will be. And i'm sure he will be familiar with Ten Hag.

why would Marcel Bout have anything to do with united when he's an ex employee? isn't he at Everton now?

 

[Desert Eagle]

Zidane or Conte. It doesnt matter.

 

[spiriticon]

I don't see Rodgers coming here unfortunately. Ex-Liverpool.

 

[liamp]

why would Marcel Bout have anything to do with united when he's an ex employee? isn't he at Everton now?

He's the Head of Global Scouting. You're thinking of Marcel Brands, who's Everton's DoF and has no prior affiliation with this club.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Not that I’m advocating for ole to go

But if we do;

Rodgers
Ten Haag
Potter

Would all have us playing good football, but challenging I’m not sure

Probably Conte is the ‘safe’ bet

tbh I think Rodgers would have us challenging he was Gerrard slip away from winning the league with Pool.

 

[UnitedSofa]

Every time we lose there is this kneejerk reaction that we need a new manager. It’s an absolute joke, entitled fanbase all over

Say we did get Conte in, are we gonna see these same posts over and over and over again?

It’s fecking tiresome. Just get behind the team for christ sakes, it’s like no one has been through the highs and lows of y’know actually supporting a team. We’re not gonna win all the time, fecking hell man

 

[ExoduS]

I agree that Ole needs to go but I'm also very fearful that we are just so deeply in sh1t. Next manager would be 4th or 5th permanent manager and we look sort of the same under each one. Slow, clueless and uninspired.

 

[Josh 76]

I really like Mancini's football at the Euros but I can't see an ex-City manager coming.

Conte..ugh...Ok i guess.

Mancini was sacked by City. The way he was sacked was appalling. I don’t think he gives a feck about City.

And if it’s a choice between Ole and Mancini, think Utd fans would want the latter.

 

[JustAGuest]

In the 3 seasons as Barcelona manager Luis Enrique won - La Liga : 2014–15, 2015–16... Copa del Rey : 2014–15, 2015–16, 2016–17... Supercopa de Espana : 2016... UEFA Champions League : 2014–15... UEFA Super Cup : 2015... FIFA Club World Cup : 2015... He's got to be in the mix for our next manager.

He doesn't speak English, does he? I'm not saying it's a must for the next manager, but it would obviously be a major hurdle.

 

[DON’T PANIC ™]

I don’t like Conte. Are there no Fergies out there?

 

[James35]

At this point the board as much as they seem to like Ole must be looking at options.

 

[The Hilton]

I just don't buy this idea that Conte = reset. This team is ready to win now and I can't believe a Conte wouldn't recognise that. Ancelotti would have been perfect.

Do you not believe this team is ready to win now? We wouldn't be asking Conte to build something up. John Murtough needs to do his job and lay down the parameters for Conte. We don't hire Conte if he wants a rebuild.

The team is already ready to win. No reason to not just go for it. Also don't think Conte has left teams in that bad of shape.

This team is ready to win, add a top class midfielder and it's among the very best around. However, it isn't a Conte team, there's no target man in the mould of Costa or Lukaku, the wide forwards are more about flair rather than defensive effort, and the 3-5-2 he's played at Chelsea and Inter wouldn't suit us either.

In my opinion Ole has earned this season to see if he can take us to the top level. If not, then we need to bring in a manager to build on the progress he's made, rather than falling in to the same short term thinking trap that gave us Mourinho and a 3 season rebuilding job after he left.

 

[el3mel]

There's so much hyperbole in your post it spilled out of my monitor while reading it.

Conte absolutely did cause problems at Chelsea, did quit Inter due to problems with the board, and he didn't dominate the league - in two seasons he won it once and then finished in the EL places. It's about as short term as you can get.

Does your problem is that he doesn't stay for + 4 years at a single club ?

Because I don't give a shit about that as long as he wins trophies here and will leave a solid team for his successor regardless.

Which guess what ? Is what happened in his previous 3 clubs, won trophies and left behind a solid team that kept on winning.

Since when any team hire a manager on the basis of him staying +4 or 5 years anyway ?

The Chelsea side he left won EL and finished 3rd the next season with Sarri, they didn't need a rebuild or a reset. He left inter due to problems with the transfers, after winning the league and now Inter are as good as they were under him last season, and Juve kept on dominating the league for several years after he left them.

So yeah, there's nothing "short term" about the teams he managed. Just because he himself didn't stay for 5 years doesn't mean his clubs collapse once he leaves.

Time for us to start acting as a proper big club and hire managers for the fecking present first. The current team is an elite and most of them are actually not that young. De Gea 30, Shaw 26, Maguire 28, Varane 28, Pogba 28, Ronaldo 36, Bruno 27, Cavani 34, even Rashford is 24 now. Most of the squad's best players are in their prime already, or approaching the last half of their career. It's time for us to actually win something with them, because 4 years from now on we'll start thinking about replacing the likes of Varane, Maguire and Bruno. Pogba might be leaving soon as well.

 

[wolvored]

Erik Ten Hag for me, Ajax play fantastic football and Ajax fans on here will vouch for how good he is.

Yes would love to see that. Also I would ask him to bring in his youth coaches setup. The way they find gems is ridiculous.