Because our players have the ability to pull a rabbit out of the hat and take us over the line. Did you stop watching when LVG was boring us to death, Moyes was crossing opponents to death or when Jose was on a self-sabotage mission?
I think we were far worse than when we are with the 4-2-3-1. Ole doesn't seem to have the ability to balance our approach. Seems far too pragmatic to coach a more progressive way.
They are a good team but we got pretty dominated and on another day would have been 3-0 down at half time. That was not an even contest. Also, they didn't just counter, they scythed through our entire midfield at will every time they tried and that clearly shows how little control we had during the match.
I’m starting to think maybe so, certainly if he’s commanding huge wages as he can’t seem to consistently play well in a disciplined midfield role and I prefer Rashford on the left.
I don’t disagree. My point was more towards people taking a glance at the league, seeing them in 11th and thinking they therefore must be shite without any sort of context of what their results have actually been this season.
Agreed. He's simply not proven himself good enough for CM.
That's where I'm at too. A nice player to have on the bench, but that's obviously not going to keep him happy and certainly not worth the big contract he would demand to stay.
They've also won 1 game out of 10. Yet we looked clueless for most of the game.
The problem mostly is him and Bruno both working best in ‘free’ roles. Pogba was playing off the shoulders of defenders early yesterday - I just can’t understand that tactic.
Even when he doesn't push forward, he fails completely with the CM role.
Well there’s that too. Minor miracle it didn’t end as a draw!
AWB hasn't been good. Tell your employer he needs to play better.
And blind faith that this time we'll be better. I will never stop watching us just because we play shite. I'd just like us to not play shite. Is that too much to ask?
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The only way that works is with FBs, or at least one FB, sitting in a 3 with the two CBs, even that didn't happen. Was a really bizarre setup.
And with the world’s best CDM which clearly we don’t have. It just seems as though he wants as many individually brilliant players as close to goal as possible and f the balance. And the only way that doesn’t leave is wide open is to have McFred. But that won’t even work once Rashford comes back and Pogbas back in midfield. Why can’t he just instruct Pogba to stay back and keep it more simple? And let Bruno and Sancho provide more? Or instruct Bruno to come closer to mid to prevent this humongous hole between our attack and midfield.
Ole shouldn't have listened to the fans on the 2 8's. It works for Pep because of the type of system he runs. His ability to maintain possession whilst building up slowly allows the 8's to get into dangerous positions without threatening the team's ability to defend or attack. We already struggle with the build up phase, mostly because we don't have the cm's to provide support to our defence when building up.
Problem is, we don't actually get them as close to goal as we would like. Greenwood close to goal would be destructive, Ronaldo with more chances and link up available to him would be scoring 2 goals a game. Nothing wrong with the 4231 but we really need to work on how we build up so that we can get some of these really dangerous players as close to goal as possible
How dare you sir. Surely this level of an unprovoked personal attack is ban worthy? Where are the mods??
Agree, I was pissed after the 1st half it was poor, and Villarreal could have been a few up, but you are allowed to have a very good keeper! Some tend to forget that, the 2nd half show after there goal and the changes made were positive. They had 1 decent chance in the 2nd half DDG saves us again. There were alot of positives to take out of the 2nd half at least, and a lot learned from the 1st. I think UTD were the more aggressive side in looking for a winner, and like you say to get a win against this side who have a very good record is big plus. It may like I've said papered over a few cracks that remains to be seen .
The full backs were more conservative, they were rarely caught out of position its just they were getting done one on one by villareals wide players everytime, in particular dalot which is where near enough every chance come from.
I'm coming around to the same opinion. But I also wonder if Pogba is just doing what Ole wants. He's played games where he stays back and keeps it simple but I think Ole wants him further forward because he's another player that can pull something out of nothing. But when he does, it leaves us horribly unbalanced. And I'd also prefer Rashford on the wing or any actual winger.
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Well I think it's because had he done that, people would complain that he's being too passive. I've heard so many pundits call for the formation we saw yesterday and there was a reason Ole had not done it for so long. With that said though the team will need to learn to play that way and that starts with the coaching being on point.
Some of these debates often read like it's not a site for football fans but masochists.
That includes people wanting Conte so we can have Dalot and Telles at WB.
Na there was one attack early in the first half where Dalot was out of position and he was behind the play due to pushing too far forward. He got better in his positioning after that but he's such a shambolic defender it didn't matter.
We were due one after getting robbed over and over this season.
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it was a corner kick. Not sure what your point is and if you are trying to say this was them from open play you are wrong.The entire villareal team inside the penalty box defending.
He needs to sort out our pathetic displays prior to going a goal down is what I meant. It takes the opposition scoring for us to wake up in games.
Cristiano Ronaldo
Alex Telles
Edinson Cavani
Bruno Fernandes
Felix Zwayer
replaced by Fred
replaced by Edinson Cavani
replaced by Jesse Lingard
replaced by Nemanja Matic
