I would never want us to lose any game but also intrigued to see what a new manager could do with this team
This is the first time I want us to lose
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Just say you want him gone and leave it at that.
I can get you're frustrated with him, he's an average manager at best, and the way United have been doing things they don't act on time or appropriately. Judging by the last managers they're going to sack him when it's too late despite being clear for a long time ago he's not adequate. So it could be a long time for him to get sacked so is best for you to cope with the idea of him being in charge of the team and try to enjoy the victories. You're not winning anything with him ahead but if you do try to support the team and enjoy it.
I can get you're frustrated with him, he's an average manager at best, and the way United have been doing things they don't act on time or appropriately. Judging by the last managers they're going to sack him when it's too late despite being clear for a long time ago he's not adequate. So it could be a long time for him to get sacked so is best for you to cope with the idea of him being in charge of the team and try to enjoy the victories. You're not winning anything with him ahead but if you do try to support the team and enjoy it.
Idiots who come up with these titles need to be banned. Wtf?
Definitely would take a loss or two if it got rid of our unqualified manager and coaching team and gave us a chance to compete seriously again. The greater good and long term well-being of the club always come first. We will still be papering over cracks come 2025 with Ole as long as our billion dollar team drags him across the line every time. People who are willing to die on the 'Ole is great' hill are either very ignorant people or just plain oppo fans at this point.
Salah dragged Klopp all the time.
Seriously how many individual goals Salah has scored this season? Out of nothing.
Individual brilliance is common in top teams.
feck me!!
what a miserable existence you must lead!
Weird, weird outlook on football and being a Manchester United fan
Of course you need quality individials. Pep's system didn't work in his first season with City because he needed the right players.
But it's a question of how much you depend on that individual quality and also how much you are able to set the team up to get the best out of them.
Chat shit, get banged.
You calling others toxic will surely be in the meme thread?!
Cowardice?
This post is pure garbage. You're worse than Liverpool fans. Wanting us to lose? feck off.
You're nothing but an entitled manchild. Its fine to be unhappy when we lose, but not wanting us to win is right there in the unforgivable category.
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I think the best scenario would be if we are doing scrappy wins but the glazes understand that Ole can't take us further. But I am afraid that as long as we are around top 4, no actions will be taken.
Exactly this. There is a difference between a showcase of individual brilliance when it comes from players that have been set up to thrive with a system that plays to their strengths (which is where the manager comes in) compared to us where we literally look lost for 70mins a game, then someone pulls out a nice run or long range worldie from nowhere. The fact that Salah is able to pull this off almost on a weekly basis shows that he is not dragging the manager over the line. He (and the rest of his team) has been set up to succeed by his manager and it is working on the field.
The fact that we have posters here implying that the Liverpool squad is world class and we cannot compete just shows the effect a good manager can have. Imagine if (and let's just use an extreme example here) Pep or Klopp were coaching us, with the likes of CR7, Bruno, Pogba, DDG, Varane, Sancho, Cavani, Shaw et al in the team, bet there would be a lot of teams crapping their pants when they face us.
Wrong team. Honestly Chelsea would be a better bet for you. They love a manager merry go round.
ole probably has gone as far as he can
If ten hag was suddenly available we probably should go for him.
But ole is here and that is what it is.
If he can turn it around then great.
But never ever should you want United to lose..
Never.
ole probably has gone as far as he can
If ten hag was suddenly available we probably should go for him.
But ole is here and that is what it is.
If he can turn it around then great.
But never ever should you want United to lose..
Never.
I never want us to lose, especially to the dippers. And you just know that we will show up on the day and Ole will be lauded again.
Exactly. It was only individual brilliance that got a draw for Liverpool in the Man City game in a game in which they got battered. 2 moments of brilliance by Salah got them the point.
You deserve everything you get. Just clear off.
At least it is not the second time he wanted us to lose as then it would become a bit tedious but never rule out a sequel!
Wanting your team to lose because you don't like the manager...talk about being an entitled pr!ck. Should be a banable offence.
Youre slightly going off topic here (there's other threads for this).
1. No supporter (of any club) should want their team to lose.
2. Last night, we didn't rely on individual brilliance (and if you think we did, then every goal is individual brilliance), it was down to long spells of sustained pressure and some decent passing, movement (AWB 2nd half was a different player). Yes, we were poor in a lot of the first half but we had 22 shots, hit the post, hit the bar, scored three, goalie made a few excellent saves (as did DDG).
And the point of this thread is don't cry because we're losing and say you want United to lose. Don't like Ole.. fine, find one of the 30 threads about him and post there. This thread was purely about entitlement and hoping we lost so he could say "told you so".
This is a Man United Fans thread. Why can't OP be banned for writing what he did?
Absolutely reprehensible.
Absolutely reprehensible.
Let this be a lesson to save your frustrations until the match is over at least.
saying stuff like “I hope we lose” in order to get the manager sacked is pretty childish and disgusting from a ‘fan’ to be honest.
ive moved to the “ole out” side recently but I would never hope for us to lose. I’d be happy if we win, even better if we win continually.
saying stuff like “I hope we lose” in order to get the manager sacked is pretty childish and disgusting from a ‘fan’ to be honest.
ive moved to the “ole out” side recently but I would never hope for us to lose. I’d be happy if we win, even better if we win continually.
Why would he get banned. Too many holier than thous in this thread. He is clearly a fan who is fed up. You don't have to agree with wanting to lose, but I can understand it.
Damn those true supporters and their traditional ways of ...wanting their own team to win
Hope our win caused you a miserable evening
The shimmering irony.
You're calling people "children", yet backing some clown so childish he's writing threads about wanting to lose.
Just
Come on now.
Losing that game would have meant we would have been completely adrift in the group and pretty much dependant on beating both Atlanata and Villareal away to have a chance of qualifying
I get that a lot of people want Ole gone NOW, i lost faith in him too, but if we crashed out of the CL, who the feck is going to come in and "save our season?" Conte? Hes still going to be competing against Pep and Klopp so fat fecking chance we are winning the league and Conte only tends to last two or three seasons before he has a meltdown
Unless we go on a catastrophic run, Oles not getting sacked midseason. Best we can hope for is a solid top 4 finish and a decent run in the CL and then bring in a young, talented coach that stays for more than two years. Not some mentalist like Conte
I agree. But even then I have to ask - how much of this was simply based on us having quality players who were able to do that, and how much was based on good coaching and system. Based on the last couple of years, I'd say it's more the former than the latter. It's not based on individuals brilliance, but it is more about the players themselves (And the fact Atalanta, especially with so many players missing, are a pretty comfortable opponents for us).
Some of you need this hint apparently. It is called being a supporter.
I do not want us to lose but I do want him gone. I feel he is 'wasting' this squad which is essentially a one hit opportunity - Ronaldo is old whether people want to believe it or not, so is Cavani. Pogba is free at the end of the season and so is Lingard (say what you want about him but he can be an incredibly useful player at times and in the right system I'm sure he can be consistent). A new manager next season will have to fill in some gaps in the squad, add legs and all sorts. We get rid of Ole now and pay big bucks to get someone decent in and give ourselves a fighting chance to win some silver with this team and avoid having to do a rebuild in the summer and waste next season as we 'jel the players together'
You're arguign like Ole hasn't been here for 3 seasons and spent almost as much as Pep did. How long do we have to wait before we start playing like Pep or Klopp's teams? 5? 10? 20 years? 50? I don't get it. It's like Saint Ole is working on a shoestring budget and a top 4 finish is something to be appreciated greatly.
He doesn't. If Keita, Matip, Milner, Henderson and Robertson were in our team, everyone would be saying we'd need a huge overhaul to challenge. Henderson and Millner were considered to be joke players, not even fit to play for bottom table teams, yet now they're considered "world class". Well, amazing how good coaching can change even the most average of average players look great. Maybe we need some of that? Just a thought.
Sorry, Ole spent as much as Pep has?
Where do you even start with this, the misinformation and lack of context is wild when it comes to Ole. No wonder people habour so many extreme views of him.
Some Man United 'fans' miserable that we won last night.
Some Man United 'fans' wanting and willing us to lose against fecking Liverpool.
This place is turning into twitter
Some Man United 'fans' wanting and willing us to lose against fecking Liverpool.
This place is turning into twitter
Who said that? Keita was a club record signing at the time, Henderson works for their system and Milner is a solid, if unspectacular highly professional squad player. Yes Klopp gets more than the sum of its parts of the Liverpool midfield, but let's not pretend they're Championship players.
Why are you saying 'Saint Ole'? Are you 12 years old?
Guardiola spent more than 500, Ole 450 million. The difference between the two teams is night and day, not only in terms of results but in terms of play, as well.
So? Maguire is our second highest transfer and i'm sure you won't say he has justified his price. Works for the system and being a "solid player" is simply conceding to my point. A large part of Liverpool's team would look like a bunch of donkeys if they played under Ole. Klopp, instead, has made them look like world beaters while we sit here and wonder whether Ronaldo makes us press less, or Pogba being a luxury player, or the fact that Bruno is simply too unpredictable and problematic as a player and we should sell him. It's insane.
FFS!
More kindergarten tantrums.
Can't handle it...grab a tissue.
More kindergarten tantrums.
Can't handle it...grab a tissue.
So, during the Moyes, LVG and Jose disasters you were fine with it? Watched Moyes take the 11 point champions to 7th, watched LVG set records for home games without a shot on target in the first half and watched Jose create a level of toxicity that has never been seen before at the club, but never wanted the team to lose? That was all fine?
But Ole, who has rebuilt a shitshow of a squad, finished above the almighty saviours of football Liverpool last season, set records for the most consecutive away games unbeaten and has instilled a fighting spirit that has brought back thrilling comebacks to OT and is a club legend who loves the club has driven you to wanting the team to lose?
"Nepotism, cowardness and dull football"? Some people have really short memories.
Shitshow squad that finished more points than Ole has yet to reach 3 and a half seasons in... Okay, bro. The reality is that we're stomping in the same puddle of mud, thinking we've "progressed". When the reality is we've more than likely regressed slightly.
Sorry where you pulling them numbers from?
Are you talking about while both been in the job at the same time, near sure pep spent a billion, on a ready made team pretty much that previously won titles.
As I say zero context of where both where starting from regarding their squads.
You were arguing those Liverpool players weren't fit to play for relegation teams, which is clear nonsense. You seemingly only communicate through the medium of hyperbole, eg honing in on the fringe groups of fans who want to sell Bruno when the majority love him. You're also focusing on Liverpool's weaker squad players, overlooking an amazing attacking trio and the liked of VVD and Alisson, who are genuinely world class.
No-one is arguing Klopp isn't a better manager.
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