He literally did when Jose was manager and lost 3-1 to Liverpool. This is 10 times worse today.
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Exactly - he’s spot on. He alsomade a good point that we have Lukaku and therefore have runners around him as he doesn’t press well, like Ronaldo.
He noted that it’s down to the manager to sort the team around a superstar. He’s not covering for Ole at all today.
Did he say united should sack Jose? And if so do you have the quotes?
Mate we've never pressed well under anyone. That's why i'm beginning to think it's not something we do, or look for when we sign players.
He's right, and was one of the first to criticize Ole and call out our lack of a system. People are waiting or expecting him to say something like Ole should go, but he will always stop short of calling for the manager's head regardless of the club.
I think that's probably right. I was moaning in the match day thread about Neville pussyfooting around, criticising everything but not actively calling for Ole to go. I have conceded he was never going to verbalise 'Ole Out' and I agree that it doesn't make much difference which talking head; Gaz, Rio, Keane, whoever, says what on any particular topic.
However for me Gaz would be calling for this manager's head if he was at any other club. The fact it's Ole and the fact it's United is making Gaz equivocate in a way that seems to be at odds with his straight talking reputation. That's all really, I do think the obsession with what he says or doesn't say is funny (and I've even had a little go of it myself today
).Yup, as per usual he's babbling on about the effect without facing up to the cause. No player is a 'pressing player' by default, individuals in a team can be shaped (within reason) in the image of the manager. We've seen this time and time again with top managers over the years.
Pretty funny watching him stumble around when Carragher called him out though.
Nothing wrong with what he said IMO. People just angry at everything and everyone.
He didn't answer properly the very good question of "well if you've liked the progress over the past 2 years, what has changed this season?" that they were trying to get him to answer.
I don't need him to call for Ole's head or anyone else's for that matter, but the problem with the likes of Rio and he is that they stop short of speaking the truth of what they actually think normally. He clearly wants to say more, and I get he can't go too far, but the fact is these Ex players have been pushing the narrative that having their like inside the club is "the United Way" when it's clearly holding us back and they need to stop pushing that narrative. That's my issue with them, not that they won't call for the manager's head.
I don't need him to call for Ole's head or anyone else's for that matter, but the problem with the likes of Rio and he is that they stop short of speaking the truth of what they actually think normally. He clearly wants to say more, and I get he can't go too far, but the fact is these Ex players have been pushing the narrative that having their like inside the club is "the United Way" when it's clearly holding us back and they need to stop pushing that narrative. That's my issue with them, not that they won't call for the manager's head.
He’s never openly said a manager should be sacked, and has often said he would never call for a manager to be sacked.
No, he wouldn't. He's literally never called for a manager to be sacked.I think that's probably right. I was moaning in the match day thread about Neville pussyfooting around, criticising everything but not actively calling for Ole to go. I have conceded he was never going to verbalise 'Ole Out' and I agree that it doesn't make much difference which talking head; Gaz, Rio, Keane, whoever, says what on any particular topic.
However for me Gaz would be calling for this manager's head if he was at any other club. The fact it's Ole and the fact it's United is making Gaz equivocate in a way that seems to be at odds with his straight talking reputation. That's all really, I do think the obsession with what he says or doesn't say is funny (and I've even had a little go of it myself today
He will never attack Ole directly
He went further than he has in the past I’d say though. Openly said there needs to be changes and questioned training methods etc.
His narrative has changed, said at the beginning of the season Ole would have to win something this season with the investment made.
He’ll never and nor should he, say “sack the manager”.
So annoying today, saying we need to change system and players despite saying earlier on that the issue wasn't the personnel and Carragher pulled him up saying we look lost no matter who's playing, then Neville said we couldn't press with that front 3, bullshit, what he means is Ronaldo can't press, any decent coach could get Mason and Marcus to be effective in a pressing system.
He's 100% dead to me now. He can go and shite.
weird comment. Everything he’s said is spot on.
Dunno what stream ye are watching. Neville is slagging manager a lot.
He’s going in on the manager now, happy now? Talking about terrible performances.
Can someone post a link to what he said?
I know just cos he hasn’t mentioned Oles name doesn’t mean he isn’t slagging off the manager.
He's still dancing around the obvious man. He sounds totally delusional.Carragher speaking the truth: “It’s staring you in the face.”
he really isn’t, he’s said everything the fans are saying, but stopping short of using the words “Ole should be sacked”.
Carragher is talking more sense and like someone who supports united.
Carragher is showing Neville up by saying what everyone else saying/thinking.
Calling Neville out for constantly defending him.
Calling Neville out for constantly defending him.
Literally, he just went on a rant about the structure of the team. Not sure what people want?
So is there any post linking you to saying Ole has to go??? If so, hypocrite. If not, blinded by a love to Ole
"The club have to be brave, they have to hold firm and not sack him"
In what way is it brave to make terrrible choices?
In what way is it brave to make terrrible choices?
He's becoming a fecking walking oxymoron
My god he is talking some bollox.
Never mind. Ignore me. He’s just pissed me off big time now with his “we don’t sack managers” bollocks. Carragher spot on.
You know those machine-gun bullet outlines in cartoons? Where someone shoots three hundred rounds around the hero, in the shape of the hero, who miraculously survives unscathed.
That with the dozens of criticisms he fired off regarding today's game and the performances going back nine games, except without ever mentioning the word 'manager', 'coach', or 'Ole', or 'Solsjkaer'.
This is a dumpster fire right now.
the stuff he says is astonishingly moronic
His levels of delusion are painful. Carragher being the voice of reason.
Embarrassing stuff. Carragher absolutely right to question him,
Carragher and Souness have absolutely decimated him tonight, just with basic rational takes and analysis.
He plays that voice of the fans card which is bullshit. He is Oles mate more than a fan of United.
Carragher is spot on in everything he says about the club. If Ole doesn't get sacked tonight it is purely down to the board being scared and unprepared.
Carragher is spot on in everything he says about the club. If Ole doesn't get sacked tonight it is purely down to the board being scared and unprepared.
Jesus Christ, what is he on about? Big fan of his but feck me, he's not on it today. Keeps harping on about LvG and Mourinho like they weren't both completely past it by the time they arrived here. Just wish Carragher pressed him more.
Neville: “Mourinho was the best manager in the world when we hired him, look what happened there!”
Carragher: “So Manchester United shouldn’t look to hire the best manager in the world?”
Neville: “Uh…”
Carragher: “So Manchester United shouldn’t look to hire the best manager in the world?”
Neville: “Uh…”
He's so steadfast on his opinion of backing managers it's actually painful to listen to.