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What a super player he is!
Noble at his peak was half the player Rice was two years ago.The new Mark Noble, will go down as a West Ham legend.
If we could get him for a decent price, alright, but the quoted ones were laughable. How many times have we seen these midfielders that were looking good for smaller teams only to be out of depth when they entered a big club. Leicester bought Soumare for 25 mio from France last summer. The guy had a pretty good game against us yesterday. We have enough of the "young, British and promising" category and we were fleeced more than enough. I don't want to see another Maguire situation if it can be avoided. Westham is a Moyes team, I think, that impacts how he plays and how successful he is - but United doesn't play like that and hopefully, that isn't the plan for the future as well.Declan Rice has on top of being a good footballer one very important thing that we are sadly lacking and that is he is a true leader in midfield...he is the closest player to a young Roy Keane I´ve seen and hopefully we do go all in for him
As what, a door stop? Maybe a living statue for the South Bank?this has led to Ole wanting to sell Matic
I'd love him here too, but I can't see the board stumping up the funds for him with Ole's future in the balance - despite their recent statement suggesting otherwise.Would love him here, but cannot see it happening with Ole. Why would Declan want his career stalling under Ole and Co's stellar coaching?
He's contracted to West Ham till 2025. No way would Ed get into that kind of negotiation. Much better off buying someone just as good but not English for half the price.I'd love him here too, but I can't see the board stumping up the funds for him with Ole's future in the balance - despite their recent statement suggesting otherwise.
Spain press more than every team in the league outside of Pool and City. We're just a poor side with an even worse structure.I wasnt convinced that an out and out destroyer was what we needed but after recent performances i'm coming around to the idea of getting Rice, although maybe not at the quoted price. I dont think even with Rice we can play Pogba in a 2 though so we probably need Rice and 1 more. Pogba needs to be playing somewhere in the bank of 3 behind the striker. I know he plays in a 2 for France but the Prem is all about pressing and intensity now and he just isnt that player.
This is it one of the reasons for me too.I wasnt convinced that an out and out destroyer was what we needed but after recent performances i'm coming around to the idea of getting Rice, although maybe not at the quoted price. I dont think even with Rice we can play Pogba in a 2 though so we probably need Rice and 1 more. Pogba needs to be playing somewhere in the bank of 3 behind the striker. I know he plays in a 2 for France but the Prem is all about pressing and intensity now and he just isnt that player.
There isn't a club in Europe that wouldn't want him. We need to see his fee as an investment rather than a cost. He probably has 10 years of his best playing time in front of him.I'm still on the Rice Bandwagon.
Until the other options convince me I'll stay on it.
Alternatively he could turn out to be an extremely overpriced player rival fans like to point their finger at to make fun at us. Like for example Harry MaguireThere isn't a club in Europe that wouldn't want him. We need to see his fee as an investment rather than a cost. He probably has 10 years of his best playing time in front of him.
You mean the one that was arrested?Get the Brighton midfielder in...... unless today Was a disaster for him. Didnt watch their game
I know I'm not replying to the major point of your post, which I largely agree with, but I think Chong may have a future with us compared to some of the other young players. He's raw but he's performing well in a higher level of competition than most of our other youngsters. He has also shown more versatility, which is useful for a squad player. Being left footed is also an advantage as it allows him to fulfill some roles that right footers simply can't. Plus his work rate is a rare attribute that could see him have more success at the top level than others who may have shown more technical ability at youth level.I’d honestly be happy for us to offload Dalot, Bailly, Jones, Matic, Lingard, Mata, Chong and Martial then use our entire summer budget on just Rice and Bellingham as that sorts out our midfield for the next decade.
I’d bring Laird, Mengi, Tuanzebe, Garner, MejbrI, Shoretire and Elanga up to replace the outgoing players as those minutes should be used up by players that potentially have a future at the club rather than those just around to fill the squad up but more importantly they’d be hungry with something prove and won’t cost a penny.
We’ve on paper got a great starting 11 outside of midfield so put Rice and Bellingham into what we already have along with a tactically astute head coach like Ten Hag and I honestly believe we’d challenge for everything on a domestic level which after the summer signings we should be doing already.
he's going nowhere. Will stay at West Ham until he misses his move.Moyes claims Rice was available for "bargain" 100M and now the price will be higher.
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I don’t see Chong as ever being good enough to start ahead of Greenwood, Sancho and Rashford and at best I think Chong would be a good signing for someone like Southampton or Palace as mid table.I know I'm not replying to the major point of your post, which I largely agree with, but I think Chong may have a future with us compared to some of the other young players. He's raw but he's performing well in a higher level of competition than most of our other youngsters. He has also shown more versatility, which is useful for a squad player. Being left footed is also an advantage as it allows him to fulfill some roles that right footers simply can't. Plus his work rate is a rare attribute that could see him have more success at the top level than others who may have shown more technical ability at youth level.
He’s really progressing this season and just showing that everyone who said the likes of Soumaré, Zakaria, N’Didi, Koopmeiners, Brozovic, Bissouma, Neves and all the others that have been mentioned before aren’t the right option and that if we want to be the best again we need to pay what’s needed and Rice is absolutely what we need.Tweet
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I can understand the hesitation for 100 million but that's hardly anything to do with Rice, that's got more to do with West Ham and United being a rich club.Not good enough for us according to many experts on here
Under a progressive manager he would be absolute beast and would excel at all the things his detractors think he isn't capable of doing just because currently they have their blinkers on.Not good enough for us according to many experts on here
If he keeps up his current form then he'll be worth that easily, and especially to a club like ours who is desperate for a player like him.But not 70 million good at all.
Moyes literally said he was available for 100m, now he's worth more.If he keeps up his current form then he'll be worth that easily, and especially to a club like ours who is desperate for a player like him.
I agree with the first bit, but I doubt Rice will still be at West Ham in 2 / 3 years if he keeps developing as he is.Moyes literally said he was available for 100m, now he's worth more.
There is no chance he goes anywhere for 2/3 years at least.
I just can't see anybody ever spending more than £70m on a defensive midfielder. Only attackers ever go for that sort of value.I agree with the first bit, but I doubt Rice will still be at West Ham in 2 / 3 years if he keeps developing as he is.
That wouldn't matter at all. If there are top teams after a DM, then Rice would be currently on their list no doubt. £70m is loads but if a team needs it and can afford it then I don't see what would stop it, nothing to do with personality.It's not like Rice is a big world wide personality either.