Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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Rightnr

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But did any of them have to do a Cultural Reset like we did? Do any of them have United DNA?
I think what you meant to say was they weren't Premier League proven.
 

MUFC OK

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Its infuriating Tottenham are actually productive and are going to get a manager that actually wins something

We on the other hand, persist with Ole whos proven he is out of his depth and has just been battered 5-0 by our greatest rivals at home

Completely and utterly inept.

So what happens if City batter us?
You just know that will happen now, and we've missed our opportunity by sitting on our hands.
 

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Its infuriating Tottenham are actually productive and are going to get a manager that actually wins something

We on the other hand, persist with Ole whos proven he is out of his depth and has just been battered 5-0 by our greatest rivals at home

Completely and utterly inept.

So what happens if City batter us?
Ole will be given another 3 game "ultimatum" to turn things around against Watford, Chelsea, and Arsenal.

Inevitably he'll win one of those games, then head to another set of seemingly easy fixtures and feck it all up, too.

Then he'll be handed another ultimatum... rinse and repeat.

It's all so tiresome.
 

Teja

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I think there is definitely that clause, but is the money saved more compared to losing out on CL money and I am sure even sponsorships would have CL exposure related clauses.
Maybe the finance wonks have it all worked out.

Ole sack cost, New manager signing on bonus, Squad wage drop if they don't qualify for the CL on the one side and Sponsorship $ lost, CL revenues lost on the other.
 

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Mad how 3-0 to us was enough for Spurs to say enough yet we've persisted after 5-0 to our biggest rival.

Shows just how far our standards have fallen
 

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It would drive you to drink...

United really isn't a big club like that anymore. Not in terms of ambition.

A substantial part of the fanbase prefers faux moral victories like "we stand by our manager/back the club" over actually being an elite sports institution.

Fluff like United DNA is pure copium. People deluding themselves that eventually Ole will evolve into a competent manager as if he's a Pokemon that needs to go through trial and tribulations before showing results. 3 years and half a billie and team still has no set formation or identity.

Standards keep being lowered because the guy in the dugout scored an important goal over two decades ago.
 

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It would drive you to drink...

Wirh the exception of Spurs and maybe Inter we don't have the same high ambitions as those other clubs. A top 4 place is enough at United. So you can't really compare.
 

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Well he's deeper into his job now after Conte has gone to spurs, so it's safe to say he's in the hot seat at least until end of the season now. So just have to suck it and see again.
 

BluesJr

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Worst thing that could have happened to us was winning that game. This won't go anywhere it'll be the same cycle of good run, bad run, rinse and repeat. Meanwhile are rivals will continue to develop and leave us further behind.
 

pratyush_utd

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So he will stay on till the end of the season now that there are no options available.

What if we lose to City badly this weekend?
 

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So he will stay on till the end of the season now that there are no options available.

What if we lose to City badly this weekend?
Then they'll 'assess' the situation over the following three games. This is how the club operates and there will be no planning for next time either. Unless we go on run of something like six losses on the bounce, which we won't because of our talent, the board will just hope the next humiliation blows over too. Ole himself spoke as if the Liverpool result was some sort blip and he'll do the same vs City.
 

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Worst thing that could have happened to us was winning that game. This won't go anywhere it'll be the same cycle of good run, bad run, rinse and repeat. Meanwhile are rivals will continue to develop and leave us further behind.
Ole is like someone that doesn't even turn up for lectures and then crams the night before an exam only to manage to scrape a pass. Basically, doing just enough to survive the cut while stealing an opportunity from someone that actually deserves to be there. I'm really disappointed that he hasn't walked.

Ole is an classic example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Basically he doesn't know enough about football to even realise that he is a bit rubbish and way out of his depth.
 

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So he will stay on till the end of the season now that there are no options available.

What if we lose to City badly this weekend?
“We played really well, you don’t go to arguably the best team in Europe and get in as many sliding tackles as we did. It was a bad result and it will stay in our history. But as I said before, nothing becomes history as quickly as a game of football. I’ll be here next week, the players know what I want from them, we’ll pick ourselves up and go again.”
 

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The club probably want a manager that isn't available right now. At least I fecking hope so.

Even so, if City hand us a spanking he simply has to go. We'll just have to play out the season with Carrick as caretaker.
 

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The club probably want a manager that isn't available right now. At least I fecking hope so.

Even so, if City hand us a spanking he simply has to go. We'll just have to play out the season with Carrick as caretaker.
I’d understand if we are waiting for someone special, but it seems like we are waiting for Poch, who was unemployed for a while before PSG hired him, so why did we not get him then? And why Poch over anyone else?
 

lsd

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I would honestly take Mark Hughes at this point. I really want Ole to succeed but I just hate the way he treat players he doesn't like.

I have never known a manager to actively pick so many players he has signed and just point blank refuse to give them a chance.

I mean a lot managers tend to have problems with one or two at most from time to time but Ole has these issues with Sancho, Donny ,Telles and you can add Pogba and Bailly to that list .

Then you get all his talk about the United DNA being young players and at the end of the day what young players has he successfully bought into the first team set up? I'm not even convinced he plans to make Greenwood his main striker at any point

Some come in get a game or two and that's it. I'm starting to think Gomes knew this
 

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But did any of them have to do a Cultural Reset like we did? Do any of them have United DNA?
Funnily enough this supposed culture reset is a smokescreen for a meaning that lacks substance. After 3 years Manchester United still don't have a playing identity, 1 player coming through the system in Mason Greenwood and no trophies won. The culture of United would be indifferent to the reality of Solskjaers inferior management.
 

RedBanker

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Well he's deeper into his job now after Conte has gone to spurs, so it's safe to say he's in the hot seat at least until end of the season now. So just have to suck it and see again.
Naah. We're not sheep that we've to suck it. There are a lot of ways of getting at people.
 

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The club probably want a manager that isn't available right now. At least I fecking hope so.

Even so, if City hand us a spanking he simply has to go. We'll just have to play out the season with Carrick as caretaker.
Oh please God no. If Carrick does an above average job, the lunatics running the place will probably make his caretaker role permanent and then its an Ole 2.0 situation.
 

RedBanker

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Oh please God no. If Carrick does an above average job, the lunatics running the place will probably make his caretaker role permanent and then its an Ole 2.0 situation.
No way we go for an internal appointment now. There is too much of the season at stake. Our top 4 trophy is at stake.
 

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Oh please God no. If Carrick does an above average job, the lunatics running the place will probably make his caretaker role permanent and then its an Ole 2.0 situation.
You think only the owners would be like this? Half of this forum as reactionary as it is will start screaming Carricks at the wheel and begging for him to get the appointment because he just "gets United"
 
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