Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

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It's anger now and an excited feeling of "Just fecking go!" but I know that when I see footage of him leaving the training ground for the last time I'm gonna think "Ah, for feck sake..."

We'll always have Paris.
 

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Do people really expect him to be gone tomorrow? United just posted shit about "the boss" on Instagram. They ain't sacking him a day later
 

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If the reports are true then Ole will be sacked for sure.

At this point players just need a change.

Funnily enough, they need exactly what Ole brought after Jose, a change of atmosphere in the changing room.

Any caretaker will give them that and if we can find someone actually capable of coaching and tactics that suit this team we will be back on track after a few training sessions.
You really think it is that simple and that a caretaker manager comes in and does a few training sessions and suddenly, by some divine magic, the wins start accumulating !

It will take at least one full winter and one summer window of clearing out some absolute dross in that team (defensive positions mainly) and a proper manager for United to actually close in on the top three.
 

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It's anger now and an excited feeling of "Just fecking go!" but I know that when I see footage of him leaving the training ground for the last time I'm gonna think "Ah, for feck sake..."

We'll always have Paris.
I'll prefer simply not to think about his tenure as manager if it ends like this.

I'll remember him not for Paris, but for the winner at Camp Nou.
 

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Do people really expect him to be gone tomorrow? United just posted shit about "the boss" on Instagram. They ain't sacking him a day later
I have no idea if they'll sack him.

However if they are, the decision is likely not finalised yet and the club operations will continue as normal until he's been told he's sacked and only then would our social media team be made aware surely?

Do you think Woodward is going to be on the phone to the social media team saying "don't post anything that involves Ole on Instagram because I'm going to go down to Carrington and sack him tomorrow. But keep it on the hush hush because no one knows".
 

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I have no idea if they'll sack him.
However if they are, the decision is likely not finalised yet and the club operations will continue as normal until he's been told he's sacked and only then would our social media team be made aware surely?
Do you think Woodward is going to be on the phone to the social media team saying "don't post anything that involves Ole on Instagram because I'm going to go down to Carrington and sack him tomorrow. But keep it on the hush hush because no one knows".
Um, yes.
 

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United have finished among the top four in recent seasons, giving the false impression that there's no significant difference in squad quality among the top four clubs (City, Chelsea, Pool, United) and some minor managerial tweak will somehow radically change the fortune of this club. In particular, Chelsea's performances after Tuchel's appointment seems to have consolidated that view. But that Chelsea defense and midfield is head and shoulders above anything United have had in the post-SAF era.
 

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It's anger now and an excited feeling of "Just fecking go!" but I know that when I see footage of him leaving the training ground for the last time I'm gonna think "Ah, for feck sake..."

We'll always have Paris.
After Villareal & Chelsea could be him leaving training grounds plus 'Just feckin go and don't let the door hit you in the arse'.

People are fed up already and continuously rolling that snowball could have merciless effect, even if eventually they''ll find time for forgiveness.
 

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Umm, no.

They may not even have had a board meeting yet, it could be scheduled for Monday or Tuesday for all we know. You really think every time a manager's job could be under threat the social media team are banned from posting anything that associates the club with said manager just on the off chance they sack him?
 

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Umm, no.

They may not even have had a board meeting yet, it could be scheduled for Monday or Tuesday for all we know. You really think every time a manager's job could be under threat the social media team are banned from posting anything that associates the club with said manager just on the off chance they sack him?
Again, yes I do. If the clubs manager's future is in serious consideration, yes I would think they would advise the social media to avoid posting anything to do with the manager, and instead just carry on with team and player posts until his future is decided. Not go and post something along the lines of the boss is going to make things right etc, that would make them look even stupider if they sacked him a couple of days later.
 

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You really think it is that simple and that a caretaker manager comes in and does a few training sessions and suddenly, by some divine magic, the wins start accumulating !

It will take at least one full winter and one summer window of clearing out some absolute dross in that team (defensive positions mainly) and a proper manager for United to actually close in on the top three.
Considering this season is very close to being an absolute disaster I think a top 4 finish must be achieved if we want to challenge next season with a new manager and a shiny new midfield if things go well.

Also I think with the squad we have all we need is a good enough coach until the end of the season to achieve it.

We have much better players than Spurs and West Ham for example.

This is just my version of best case scenario though.

The worst case scenario is that our board will keep panicking about what to do with this situation, we finish outside top 6 and in that case I don't think it's unreasonable to think Ronaldo will get very frustrated and will want to finish his career elsewhere.

Season like that would definitely destroy the atmosphere in the dressing room.

I just hope something will happen during the international break that will finally move this team in the right direction.
 

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Bulls@it. The guy has a banner and name has got sang for years. I can’t remember the last time Andy Cole’s name got sang. As I’ve said he’s a nice guy and is easy to adopt. Has nothing to do with limelight.
Andy Cole is an United ambassador. Teddy Sheringham played at United at the fag end of his career. Both these players have always been warmly received.

This is also common in football where sometimes players who have played a crucial role do not get talked about that much. Example Dudek who played a vital role in Liverpool's win in 2005 hardly gets any head lines.

Ole has spent most of his career as a super sub and has always come on and given his all. Not sulked, caused issues. He was the second choice after shearer didn't join United.

He has scored against Liverpool in the fa cup that season in injury time and then scored against Bayern in the finals in injury time.

It was his luck and talent that he was in the right place at the right time. He deserves to have his song sung. He deserves to have a banner at Old Trafford. At least that's the view of rational United fans who can distinguish the difference between ole the player and ole the manager.
 

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Again, yes I do. If the clubs manager's future is in serious consideration, yes I would think they would advise the social media to avoid posting anything to do with the manager, and instead just carry on with team and player posts until his future is decided. Not go and post something along the lines of the boss is going to make things right etc
How long can this go on, because Ole's job is going to be on the line every game from now until the summer. So they're basically banned from posting any quotes from our manager for the full season...

Sensitive information regarding the job security of United's manager is not really something they're going to entrust with a marketing assistant. Not when a decision hasn't even been made or discussed yet.
 

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You really think it is that simple and that a caretaker manager comes in and does a few training sessions and suddenly, by some divine magic, the wins start accumulating !

It will take at least one full winter and one summer window of clearing out some absolute dross in that team (defensive positions mainly) and a proper manager for United to actually close in on the top three.
This team has finished top 4 already under a terrible coach and added Ronaldo, Sancho and Varane. There's no reason a competent manager couldn't get 80+ points with a team like this had they been given the full season, even if we wouldn't win the league we'd be up there showing positive signs that we're not far off. Ole has put us in such a bad position this season that the best we can hope for is getting back in the top 4 unfortunately, but it's a team that needs 2 or 3 signings, nothing more.

Competent managers can make a difference quite quickly when the squad has quality, look at Tuchel.
 

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Andy Cole is an United ambassador. Teddy Sheringham played at United at the fag end of his career. Both these players have always been warmly received.

This is also common in football where sometimes players who have played a crucial role do not get talked about that much. Example Dudek who played a vital role in Liverpool's win in 2005 hardly gets any head lines.

Ole has spent most of his career as a super sub and has always come on and given his all. Not sulked, caused issues. He was the second choice after shearer didn't join United.

He has scored against Liverpool in the fa cup that season in injury time and then scored against Bayern in the finals in injury time.


It was his luck and talent that he was in the right place at the right time. He deserves to have his song sung. He deserves to have a banner at Old Trafford. At least that's the view of rational United fans who can distinguish the difference between ole the player and ole the manager.
Ironically, Ole wouldn't be known as "the great super sub" if he played under Ole the manager. Ole the manager would have run York, Cole, Sheringham into the grounds before Ole the player gets a sniff.
 

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Andy Cole is an United ambassador. Teddy Sheringham played at United at the fag end of his career. Both these players have always been warmly received.

This is also common in football where sometimes players who have played a crucial role do not get talked about that much. Example Dudek who played a vital role in Liverpool's win in 2005 hardly gets any head lines.

Ole has spent most of his career as a super sub and has always come on and given his all. Not sulked, caused issues. He was the second choice after shearer didn't join United.

He has scored against Liverpool in the fa cup that season in injury time and then scored against Bayern in the finals in injury time.

It was his luck and talent that he was in the right place at the right time. He deserves to have his song sung. He deserves to have a banner at Old Trafford. At least that's the view of rational United fans who can distinguish the difference between ole the player and ole the manager.
That’s true but not the point I was getting across. The club tend to always look after their own. Fair play. I’m talking about the fan reaction. He is a cult hero but didn’t do enough to deserve the status he gets. That’s all it is. However I will always respect him as a player and he was a great finisher with underrated footballing ability. He had good feet and could cross.

Also your Shearer point was not true. He wasn’t second choice he was just a punt similar to Dan James (I’m not wumming or trying to be disrespectful). He was told he was going to play in the reserves and he quickly changed that view. He has a very good story here and we should be proud of what he achieved as a player. Also fun fact he came here at 24.
 

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I love the naivety of this post. Our response is apparently to say "oh..great..carry on then."
Exactly, it's a disgrace. I hope the fans in the comments are giving them hell. The club are so desperate for all of this to blow over and for Ole to start performing miracles. It's about what's best for our owners and Ole at this point and not what's best for the club or fans.
 

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If Ragnick wants control of all the football side then just give it him. He’s not right long term as Head Coach but he would bring in someone good for that and get all the support right around that. Adi Hutter could be an option there. Not the biggest name himself but Hutter and Ragnick together would be a strong ticket.

Also think Fonseca is a great interim only option as doing a good job at United would guarantee him a top job elsewhere next season. It would send out the message that the club is not throwing the season away.


You really think it is that simple and that a caretaker manager comes in and does a few training sessions and suddenly, by some divine magic, the wins start accumulating !

It will take at least one full winter and one summer window of clearing out some absolute dross in that team (defensive positions mainly) and a proper manager for United to actually close in on the top three.
It’s not too late to make some of the “dross” useful and they may not need “clearing out” if there’s a decent coach. Much longer with Ole and it becomes harder.

I think even with Rodgers you’d get a massive upside from Sancho, Rashford and maybe Donny. Things are salvageable but it needs doing NOW.
 

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Just posted on United's Instagram profile. He's clearly not going anywhere.

Will never be a front foot team if his team selection is dictated by the opponents. It happened not only to the big teams, we also paid too much respect to smaller teams.
It seems to me like to Ole the most important thing is to attack and be ahead of opponents. PES tactics.
 

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United have finished among the top four in recent seasons, giving the false impression that there's no significant difference in squad quality among the top four clubs (City, Chelsea, Pool, United) and some minor managerial tweak will somehow radically change the fortune of this club. In particular, Chelsea's performances after Tuchel's appointment seems to have consolidated that view. But that Chelsea defense and midfield is head and shoulders above anything United have had in the post-SAF era.
That Chelsea defence was seen as hopeless and not good enough under Lampard. Rudiger and Christensen in particularly were both seen as not good enough.
 

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Just posted on United's Instagram profile. He's clearly not going anywhere.

I cant believe this shite.
This club is done, finished.

There is no way they will sack him. Even if we're fighting for relegation, Ole won't be sacked.
 
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I cant believe this shite.
This club is done, finished.

There is no way they will sack him. Even if we're fighting for relegation, Ole won't be sacked.

This board is the biggest cancer to this club than anything and that includes SAF.
Spot on. The problem's not Ole, it's the board. With their way of thinking, even with other managers, MU will go to nowhere. Terribly blind leadership.

Our club is really finished. Here comes new Liverpool and another 30 years of waiting.
 

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I have no idea if they'll sack him.

However if they are, the decision is likely not finalised yet and the club operations will continue as normal until he's been told he's sacked and only then would our social media team be made aware surely?

Do you think Woodward is going to be on the phone to the social media team saying "don't post anything that involves Ole on Instagram because I'm going to go down to Carrington and sack him tomorrow. But keep it on the hush hush because no one knows".
I suspect if Ole’s sacking is imminent, the social media team could be given a brief to divert attention away from Ole and focus on the players on the next game instead. Their latest post suggests an informal endorsement of Ole’s future. I could be wrong, just a guess
 

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United have finished among the top four in recent seasons, giving the false impression that there's no significant difference in squad quality among the top four clubs (City, Chelsea, Pool, United) and some minor managerial tweak will somehow radically change the fortune of this club. In particular, Chelsea's performances after Tuchel's appointment seems to have consolidated that view. But that Chelsea defense and midfield is head and shoulders above anything United have had in the post-SAF era.
You may have a case in the midfield but in defense name by name we have a side that can compete with anyone in the league.

Chelsea's defense was deemed shit under Lampard, and they were. But the same players are now a fortress. With the right manager it'll be the same with us.
 

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Ole knows more than most of us knows the standards United need to achieve. He is failing to achieve those standards. However, it's not correct seeing the personal abuse that has been directed at him. I honestly expected better from grown adults. If you carry on with the abuse expect to get warned or worse not to be posting on the forum.

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@Sultan You can go through all my posts and you won’t find any abuse directed at anyon. And I am all for cleaning up the forum and making it a suitable read for kids as well. Even in this case, I didn’t use the P. E Teacher word as an insult. I rightfully compared the level of Ole in terms of his abilities as a manager.

Also, with due respect to all the views, why do we see this PE Teacher as an insult? Isn’t it, let’s say, funny at best? This is really RAWKish man. Also why the double standards? Almost everyday I am seeing many abusive posts in here with REAL insults. And as i said, our previous managers and players were abused left, right and center with REAL intent.
 
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I don"t think the Glazers want to spend the money needed to replace Ole. If the board decide to keep Ole for the season then the supporters just have to get behind him and the team. A whole season of moaning and bitching would be unbearable. We all know that Utd's season is not going to be great. There is a very good chance they won't make top 4. They might get through the group in the Champion's League but I doubt they will get further than that.
 

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I don"t think the Glazers want to spend the money needed to replace Ole. If the board decide to keep Ole for the season then the supporters just have to get behind him and the team. A whole season of moaning and bitching would be unbearable. We all know that Utd's season is not going to be great. There is a very good chance they won't make top 4. They might get through the group in the Champion's League but I doubt they will get further than that.
Says who? We will make their situation untenable.
 

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Just posted on United's Instagram profile. He's clearly not going anywhere.

While I fully understand the logic behind it, this is concrete proof as to why I don't condone our fans who want us to lose this time around. The board is just too incompetent to do the right thing even if we get beat comprehensively.

The sheer lack of accountability from top to bottom is staggering.
 

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I don"t think the Glazers want to spend the money needed to replace Ole. If the board decide to keep Ole for the season then the supporters just have to get behind him and the team. A whole season of moaning and bitching would be unbearable. We all know that Utd's season is not going to be great. There is a very good chance they won't make top 4. They might get through the group in the Champion's League but I doubt they will get further than that.
Get behind what, exactly? The football we play is shit and boring, it's genuinely a chore to watch at times and on top of that our luck has run out so the results aren't even there anymore either. If he's being forced to stay, it's going to get worse the longer it goes on.
 
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