Would you take Rodgers at United?

[Zoo]

If we're signing someone who keeps Mates FC and the board happy then we might as well keep Ole. At least he is our own clown.

With Rodgers we're signing someone whom while better in terms of tactics is also a renowned bottler and. He's also very old school. At Liverpool he clashed with Edwards because he introduced data analysis in transfers thus stopping him signing legends like Bony, Ashley Williams and Bertrand.

Let’s not forget that Klopp didn’t actually want Mo Salah. I think it’s fair to say that Rodgers has matured a lot since Liverpool, he was perhaps too young and headstrong at the time. He hasn’t had any problems at Leicester where he doesn’t drive the recruitment.

 

[#07]

Liverpool fans didn't actually want Rodgers in the beginning, because he is a lifelong Manchester United fan. He look over their club in similar circumstances, from a former club legend who was floundering. He took a very average Liverpool side to within a slip of winning the PL.

He is not regarded as a legend by Liverpool fans, they sacked him when Klopp became available.

I think Rodgers would love to have another crack with a CL club and bring Liverpool down a peg or two.

For me he is a no brainer. He knows this league, he knows how to set up a team, he improves players, he makes quality signings, he promotes youth and most of all he plays attractive attacking football. With our squad and resources we are 50% there already, we just need someone to tie it all together.

If he wants it, and lets face it, not many of the other favourites are willing to leave their current clubs, then we should get him in ASAP. He is a massive upgrade on Ole and his 'learning on the job' coaches.

Will you be saying that same if Liverpool smack us about and the Scousers are laughing about Agent Brendan?

I hope we never have to find out.

He's a good manager but he made his bed when he went to Anfield. I don't want him coaching my club.

 

[AlexiV]

God no. I was annoyed when we appointed Mourinho but this would be so much worse. The self-praising, the enveloppes, the cringe quotes ugh. How we laughed at him during that season. Would be really hard to get behind him!

Emotional issues aside, his teams tend to peak for a short period but after that it’s downhill and I have seen nothing yet to prove to me he’s got what it takes to do a rebuild so that’s longetivity out of the window and I don’t see him winning a title against Klopp, Guardiola of Tuchel in the short term so what’s the point.

 

[devilish]

I’m not watching that. I’ll save you a google and tell you Liverpool were 3 points clear with 3 games to go when they played Chelsea.

I bet you should do the googling rather then advice others to do it.

https://www.goal.com/en-ph/news/ste...ake-reaction-chant/189b2hsu3pjow1sotpseor2fpa

https://strettynews.com/2021/11/11/brendan-rodgers-manchester-uniteds-kindred-spirit/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Rodgers

 

[devilish]

Let’s not forget that Klopp didn’t actually want Mo Salah. I think it’s fair to say that Rodgers has matured a lot since Liverpool, he was perhaps too young and headstrong at the time. He hasn’t had any problems at Leicester where he doesn’t drive the recruitment.

How is this older and improved Rodgers fairing in Europe and in making it to top 4?

 

[Adnan]

Reading a Tony Evans article about Rodgers' failed stint at Liverpool to refresh my memory as to what exactly went wrong there.


I'd forgotten about that Rodgers spiel before they played us. Good times.

From the same article, some insight into Rodgers' hand in their transfer issues at the time (though in fairness they made bad decisions that extended beyond him too):















Key point being the last one, I think. It's fine to say that Liverpool squad wasn't very good and that they struggled to replace the likes of Suarez, but Rodgers himself played a big role in those transfer issues. And insofar as he has had any control over transfers at Leicester since his arrival, it hasn't exactly been a non-stop parade of hits either. The majority of the quality players in his current side are ones he inherited.

The fact that he clashed with Edwards (the man seen as largely responsible for their excellent recruitment in recent years) isn't a plus in his favour.

The clash with Edwards is something that is worrying. I remember at the time Liverpool fans wanted Edwards out and they were also calling for their 'incompetent board' to hire the like of Monchi. But the same Edwards who was ridiculed by their fans would have the laugh, whilst Monchi would go on to Roma and do a awful job.

 

[sullydnl]

The clash with Edwards is something that is worrying. I remember at the time Liverpool fans wanted Edwards out and they were also calling for their 'incompetent board' to hire the like of Monchi. But the same Edwards who was ridiculed by their fans would have the laugh, whilst Monchi would go on to Roma and do a awful job.

Indeed.

Much though I might happily shit on him for Liverpool's title challenge falling apart or his general cringe factor, the fact that so many of the articles praising Edwards following the announcement of his departure present Rodgers as an obstacle that had to be overcome for their transfer policy to function is far more worrying.

As we have learned in recent years, the effects of bad signings can linger for a long time. The description of Rodgers' input into Liverpool's recruitment isn't a dynamic I'd want to bring into this club.

 

[andersj]

Alli & Eriksson

Yeah, they looked great after he left, right? Maybe a small regression, but nothing you would not expect at 25 and 29…

The fact that people rate Rodgers at a similar level to Pochettino is quite a surprise to me. Must be a UK-thing?!

Spurs under Pochettino where proactive, had great build-up play, played with high intensity, where good at pressing high and actually quite good at defending in a low block. They where a well drilled unit. He made players like Eriksen and Ali look great, but also Dembele, Rose, Toby and Dier. Mourinho even wanted Man Utd to pay huge fees for a couple of those players. They where regularly in the top four and even managed to reach a UCL-final. Rodgers will never be in a UCL-final.

If I were to turn my head around, I would probably say that the best thing with Rodgers is that he for brief spells (a year or two) is able to get the most out of his players. He did that with Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge. Also did good with Vardy, Ihenacho, Barnes and Tielesman. Maddison where great for a while, but it feels like he has regressed.

 

[Lash]

Yeah, they looked great after he left, right? Maybe a small regression, but nothing you would not expect at 25 and 29…

The fact that people rate Rodgers at a similar level to Pochettino is quite a surprise to me. Must be a UK-thing?!

Spurs under Pochettino where proactive, had great build-up play, played with high intensity, where good at pressing high and actually quite good at defending in a low block. They where a well drilled unit. He made players like Eriksen and Ali look great, but also Dembele, Rose, Toby and Dier. Mourinho even wanted Man Utd to pay huge fees for a couple of those players. They where regularly in the top four and even managed to reach a UCL-final. Rodgers will never be in a UCL-final.

If I were to turn my head around, I would probably say that the best thing with Rodgers is that he for brief spells (a year or two) is able to get the most out of his players. He did that with Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge. Also did good with Vardy, Ihenacho, Barnes and Tielesman. Maddison where great for a while, but it feels like he has regressed.

Did he specifically make these players look great? Eriksen was one of the most talented midfielders in Europe for his age, Alli had the form of his life and subsequently showed his true colours after. Dembele just couldn't stay fit - he was always a great player. Point taken with Dier though, he certainly got the best out of him in his system. I'd use Son as a better example for Poch.

Rodgers deserved credit for bringing Fofana in, got Tielemans who was in a rut playing well again and bringing James Justin through.

 

[Adnan]

Indeed.

Much though I might happily shit on him for Liverpool's title challenge falling apart or his general cringe factor, the fact that so many of the articles praising Edwards following the announcement of his departure present Rodgers as an obstacle that had to be overcome for their transfer policy to function is far more worrying.

As we have learned in recent years, the effects of bad signings can linger for a long time. The description of Rodgers' input into Liverpool's recruitment isn't a dynamic I'd want to bring into this club.

What it also highlighted is that Liverpool's board backed both the manager ((Benteke) and transfer committee (Firminho) which was naive. But luckily for them they appointed Klopp, and even though he was given control of transfers, he placed Edwards in charge of recruitment and everything else is history. And that's according to the Liverpool based media.

 

[sullydnl]

What it also highlighted is that Liverpool's board backed both the manager ((Benteke) and transfer committee (Firminho) which was naive. But luckily for them they appointed Klopp, and even though he was given control of transfers, he placed Edwards in charge of recruitment and everything else is history. And that's according to the Liverpool based media.

Yep.

It's interesting given our recent introduction of a DOF that Rodgers outright didn't want one at Liverpool.

[Edwards'] relationship with Rodgers was known to be somewhat strained with the Ulsterman making his view on sporting and technical directors plain after he was appointed.

Rodgers said: “For me coming in, I was always going to work with a team of people, rather than a director of football. I always think the manager is the technical director. He is the man who oversees the football development of the club, and I believe you should take on that responsibility when you are manager.”

 

[foxedup]

Let’s not forget that Klopp didn’t actually want Mo Salah. I think it’s fair to say that Rodgers has matured a lot since Liverpool, he was perhaps too young and headstrong at the time. He hasn’t had any problems at Leicester where he doesn’t drive the recruitment.

Rodgers had us install his own man as head of recruitment. In our last match all but three players played regularly under Puel… and one was a loanee. We’ve wasted huge amounts because of him and Congerton.

I said it before, you’d be making a huge mistake. He got handed a very good squad, and yes he’s a decent manager and got them performing far better than Puel, but we still have the same issues week in week out.

Horrific runs of form with him showing no sign of fixing it, terrible at set pieces at both ends of the pitch. He doesn’t seem capable of getting us in any sort of decent defensive shape, and the endless passing for the sake of passing is tedious as we go nowhere half the time. Terrible subs and doesn’t trust his own players meaning he goes negative far too much.

Many fans are starting to grumble about him and our style. Personally I’m bored to tears with it.

 

[sullydnl]

Rodgers had us install his own man as head of recruitment. In our last match all but three players played regularly under Puel… and one was a loanee. We’ve wasted huge amounts because of him and Congerton.

I said it before, you’d be making a huge mistake. He got handed a very good squad, and yes he’s a decent manager and got them performing far better than Puel, but we still have the same issues week in week out.

Horrific runs of form with him showing no sign of fixing it, terrible at set pieces at both ends of the pitch. He doesn’t seem capable of getting us in any sort of decent defensive shape, and the endless passing for the sake of passing is tedious as we go nowhere half the time. Terrible subs and doesn’t trust his own players meaning he goes negative far too much.

Many fans are starting to grumble about him and our style. Personally I’m bored to tears with it.

Aye, that seemed to be the suggestion on the Leicester forum I was looking at earlier too:

If he goes to United, indeed they have a far bigger budget but, if Rodgers has to rebuild, how good is United's recruitment team? Clearly with some of the non playing signings they have on their books not great. If they are to rely on Rodgers judgement in that area, particularly if they recruit his mate Congerton also, then I fear his tenure will be quite a short one with his reputation incredibly damaged.

History shows when recruitment is left to Rodgers himself (and his sidekick Congerton) it's an area of the job he's not particularly good at and again this is evident across several jobs he's had.

BR must know that if he went to Man Utd then he wouldn't have the control that he needs in order to turn things around. I wouldn't be surprised if personnel such as Carrick staying would be a requirement of any agreement. BR certainly wouldn't have the control he has at lcfc regarding player transfers etc and the relationships with personnel like Rudkin and Wheelan.

He has to have some degree of power/say in terms of the type of player and how they will fit into the system/style of play. Just like here.

But that control won't ever be guaranteed at a bigger club and yet he needs a bigger club to paint the legacy he craves

Coupled with quotes like the ones above regarding his time at Liverpool and our own less that secure grasp on the transfer market, there are a lot of red flags here.

 

[Mickeza]

Rodgers had us install his own man as head of recruitment. In our last match all but three players played regularly under Puel… and one was a loanee. We’ve wasted huge amounts because of him and Congerton.

I said it before, you’d be making a huge mistake. He got handed a very good squad, and yes he’s a decent manager and got them performing far better than Puel, but we still have the same issues week in week out.

Horrific runs of form with him showing no sign of fixing it, terrible at set pieces at both ends of the pitch. He doesn’t seem capable of getting us in any sort of decent defensive shape, and the endless passing for the sake of passing is tedious as we go nowhere half the time. Terrible subs and doesn’t trust his own players meaning he goes negative far too much.

Many fans are starting to grumble about him and our style. Personally I’m bored to tears with it.

Sounds eerily similar…

 

[Zoo]

Rodgers had us install his own man as head of recruitment. In our last match all but three players played regularly under Puel… and one was a loanee. We’ve wasted huge amounts because of him and Congerton.

I said it before, you’d be making a huge mistake. He got handed a very good squad, and yes he’s a decent manager and got them performing far better than Puel, but we still have the same issues week in week out.

Horrific runs of form with him showing no sign of fixing it, terrible at set pieces at both ends of the pitch. He doesn’t seem capable of getting us in any sort of decent defensive shape, and the endless passing for the sake of passing is tedious as we go nowhere half the time. Terrible subs and doesn’t trust his own players meaning he goes negative far too much.

Many fans are starting to grumble about him and our style. Personally I’m bored to tears with it.

Fair enough, which players have been wastes of money by Congerton? Maybe Rodgers has just taken you as far as realistically possible because loads of Leicester fans also call him your greatest ever manager?

 

[Ralph1386]

Aye, that seemed to be the suggestion on the Leicester forum I was looking at earlier too:











Coupled with quotes like the ones above regarding his time at Liverpool and our own less that secure grasp on the transfer market, there are a lot of red flags here.

Let's get one thing clear though. If the next manager comes now, they are not coming here to oversee a complete rebuild. We have a good squad. Next summer we need a DM and a midfielder to replace Pogba. The summer after that might need a striker for when Ronaldo goes but maybe Greenwood and Rashford can play there.

 

[Adnan]

Rodgers had us install his own man as head of recruitment. In our last match all but three players played regularly under Puel… and one was a loanee. We’ve wasted huge amounts because of him and Congerton.

I said it before, you’d be making a huge mistake. He got handed a very good squad, and yes he’s a decent manager and got them performing far better than Puel, but we still have the same issues week in week out.

Horrific runs of form with him showing no sign of fixing it, terrible at set pieces at both ends of the pitch. He doesn’t seem capable of getting us in any sort of decent defensive shape, and the endless passing for the sake of passing is tedious as we go nowhere half the time. Terrible subs and doesn’t trust his own players meaning he goes negative far too much.

Many fans are starting to grumble about him and our style. Personally I’m bored to tears with it.

You have Rodgers and Congerton, whilst we have Solskjaer and Simon Wells.

It's something i'm personally hoping we stay away from and why I believe hiring a head coach without the manager baggage is necessary to align the recruitment, which is key to success imo.

 

[Rocksy]

I highly recommend the fan base starts making negative noises about the potential for this x dipper to be our manager. Not only is he an incredibly cringey personality he is not a significant upgrade on OGS and even if you think he is he’s an x scouser. Do not let this happen no matter how much you all want OGS out, please.

A man who used to run around the streets of Anfield, “smelling the mince”.

”"I love to run on the streets around here. I love seeing the people going about their business. These are our people. I love running late in the afternoon, when the doors are open and the dinners are on, and you can smell the mince cooking…"

 

[sullydnl]

Let's get one thing clear though. If the next manager comes now, they are not coming here to oversee a complete rebuild. We have a good squad. Next summer we need a DM and a midfielder to replace Pogba. The summer after that might need a striker for when Ronaldo goes but maybe Greenwood and Rashford can play there.

Agree in that our squad are in their peak years right now so should be looking for success in the short term

Our starting 11 (when we were playing 4-2-3-1 at least) by age:

30
23 - 28 - 28 - 26
24 - 28
20 - 27 - 28
36​

Around half of our minutes have been played by players aged 27-29, 65% by players who are 27+. It's a team for now rather than the future.

At the same time, that also means it won't be that long before key players need to be replaced and that will have to be done carefully. So I certainly wouldn't use that idea to suggest that Rodgers' recruitment issues would be less of a problem here because of the age profile of the team. Particularly given some of those players are already not good enough.

 

[Eckers99]

Leicester have been shite this season. He's lucky questions aren't being asked about his own position, let alone being sized up for the United job.

 

[Knux]

We’ve already been fleeced by Leicester once. Let’s just leave it there please.

 

[Garethw]

Anybody else get the feeling that this has been leaked as a ploy to get fans back onboard with Ole? They will surely know that appointing an ex Liverpool boss will be very unpopular.

 

[pocco]

Anybody else get the feeling that this has been leaked as a ploy to get fans back onboard with Ole? They will surely know that appointing an ex Liverpool boss will be very unpopular.

It's a big possibility, there will be a reason. Not that it will work.

 

[Frosty]

Anybody else get the feeling that this has been leaked as a ploy to get fans back onboard with Ole? They will surely know that appointing an ex Liverpool boss will be very unpopular.

I'm back on board.

 

[charlenefan]

Sounds eerily similar…

Doesn't it just

 

[Robaldo]

He's always played an attractive brand of football, despite not having managed an elite club (the Liverpool team - bar Suarez - he inherited were crap and they didn't have vast finances).

He's been relatively successful wherever he's been. He won the FA Cup last season against a very good Chelsea team in the final and he's achieved well in the league; his teams have tended to fall off in the end but think that's more to do with their injuries / lack of depth than him.

I'd take him in a heartbeat - I've always been a fan. He's not Pep / Klopp level but he could compete with them. He wouldn't create the negative atmosphere that Mourinho / van Gaal did but he's also a much more intense figure than Ole.

 

[Sarni]

Not a very good one if he managed Liverpool. He knows all about “loyalty”

Now that’s absolutely silly. No matter how big of a United a fan you are, you are not going to decline a job at one of the biggest clubs in the world when they come knocking.

 

[AltiUn]

He's a life long United fan, though.

He isn't a lifelong United fan, why do you keep saying it? He's a lifelong Celtic fan, says it in this video at around 05:41.

 

[Adnan]

Aye, that seemed to be the suggestion on the Leicester forum I was looking at earlier too:











Coupled with quotes like the ones above regarding his time at Liverpool and our own less that secure grasp on the transfer market, there are a lot of red flags here.

This Lee Congerton chap was even at Celtic during Rodgers's tenure. And Rodgers got rid of the Celtic scout who brought van Dijk and Wanyama to the club to place Congerton in his role.

Also not sure why Leicester allowed that to happen when they had a good set up already. But the below article is quite damning of his work at Celtic and at Leicester.

https://foxesofleicester.com/2020/09/03/leicester-city-poor-transfer-window/

 

[HailtotheKing]

Anyone else think the only reason We’re saying we want Rogers is because they know it divides opinion so can simply hide behind the idea they’ll have to convince the fans first? A pure time wasting measure so they can continue to sit on their hands and pray. Call me cynical but that’s exactly the kind of thing I could see the board spinning.

 

[stevoc]

He isn't a lifelong United fan, why do you keep saying it? He's a lifelong Celtic fan, says it in this video at around 05:41.

For what it's worth I know someone who grew up with Rodgers who's been saying for years that he was a United fan as a kid.

 

[moses]

Some Irish fans often support Celtic as well as who they actually support, the idiots. So he might have supported both. Or maybe he's just the new Robbie Keane who supported everyone just in case they ever hired him.

 

[redrobed]

He isn't a lifelong United fan, why do you keep saying it? He's a lifelong Celtic fan, says it in this video at around 05:41.

Almost all lifelong Celtic fans are also lifelong Utd fans. Don’t understand why he can’t do both?

 

[Wibble]

I don't care who he has supported. He has been Liverpool manager so that should automatically disqualify him.

 

[moses]

I don't care who he has supported. He has been Liverpool manager so that should automatically disqualify him.

100%. I can't believe it's a conversation.

 

[redrobed]

He has been Liverpool manager

If this is true we should be nowhere near him

 

[Dante]

If this is true we should be nowhere near him

 

[stevoc]

I don't care who he has supported. He has been Liverpool manager so that should automatically disqualify him.

Yep pretty much this.

 

[Kaos]

I don't care who he has supported. He has been Liverpool manager so that should automatically disqualify him.

You want to write off Matt Busby from our history books?

 

[smi11ie]

Lots of people on here are underestimating "The Brodge." Easily more qualified than either Ten Hag or Zidane who would both be a massive risk. Brendan is the smart choice, I hope Utd can get him. Pretty sure he will win over the doubters.