shit look what happened last time he wanted to give medical assistance to peopleKyle Rittenhouse | Now crowdfunding LOLsuits against Whoopi Goldberg, LeBron James, and The Young Turks
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shit look what happened last time he wanted to give medical assistance to peopleLet the riots commence?
Yep. There should be a more general charge for recklessly endangering the public, through bringing an assault rifle to a riot. Something I think any jury would have easily convicted him on.
Going into individual actions where he's defending himself from habitual criminal rioters was never going to wash.
Yeah, agreed.
Also due to Wisconsin law hes technically not in violation of 948.60 because the statute was written by a moron
As long as people don't try to cause him serious bodily harm I'm sure they will be fine.
I'm not convinced he thought he'd actually do it or was even sure he wanted to but I am very confident he went out that night thinking about shooting protestors and that he'd fantasised about shooting protesters every night of his life for some time beforehand.
It's not about the specific charge to me but how much including that charge, which would have been 100% guilty, would influence perception of other elements of the other charges such as provocation. If he's clearly guilty of two misdemeanors, that could very well have influenced a jury based on priming and other known concepts that influence decision making in these situations.
Especially if the prosecution could have included more lesser includeds, it certainly could have led to a conviction for something like negligent homicide. Not 100% on Wisconsin but in other states, self defense would not have automatically led to a not guilty on something like negligent homicide.
Fair enough. My perspective as being a fringe member of that sort of community is that "just give me a reason" is a personal mantra for some.
Definitely. They very openly and proudly daydream about it.
fecker is set for life.
So they rig it by over charging?
People seem to be forgetting (or ignoring) that he wasn’t the only one there with a gun. He wasn’t the only right-wing counter protestor there either dressed in CoD gear. This narrative that he was some lone-wolf terrorist with the intent to kill and out to start shit doesn’t really hold water based on the evidence we have. For whatever reason he was alone and singled out, chased, and assaulted by the mob and defended his life from imminent serious injury or death by the 3 he shot.
He’s an idiot for going into the riots with a rifle and should know that there’sa possibility he might have to use it, which he did and ended up killing 2 people. He’ll pay the price in other ways other than prison for the rest of his pathetic life.
He’s an idiot for going into the riots with a rifle and should know that there’sa possibility he might have to use it, which he did and ended up killing 2 people. He’ll pay the price in other ways other than prison for the rest of his pathetic life.
Ain't gonna happen.
What are you imagining here?
I haven't seen that narrative anywhere, at least not on the caf. I myself referred to him as a MAGA terrorist but that doesn't mean he went out there intending to kill people. MAGAs know they can cause disturbance by their presence alone, especially among leftists.
The reason being he is a 17 year old kid with no real understanding of what he was doing or how to handle engagement.
So you get the reason why this happened. And yes, hopefully his life turns to shit but it being America there will always be someone who will buy him a meal or give him a job.
Book deal alone will set him up for life.
Hopefully not. What is the Fox Network paying for made for TV movies these days?
I'm not sure he'll have a very pleasant life after this, incredibly controversial members of the public rarely seem to.
It's not for whatever reason. Go back and watch the video and you'll see Rittenhouse following the group then running directly after the group. In other words, Rittenhouse chased the group before the group ever chased him. He wasn't just innocently walking around the car lot he was supposed to protect when people charged him out of nowhere. He appeared threatening especially when he ran after the initial group. If you watch that 2 minute video it's right around 1:27 to 1:33 that you see Rittenhouse running right after that group (which I would call a chase since he had no legit reason to run after them).
Yeah I think that's the crux of it D.
Cocks, bongs and the truth, mosey. That's what I deal in.
Totally off topic but does anyone else get John Candy in an ugly yellow jacket in their head every time they hear/read of Kenosha?
Im not convinced he would have even been found guilty of Wisconsin statute 948.60 because the statute was written by an idiot and if you read the statute in its entirety Rittenhouse technically didnt even violate that law the way it is written. You can argue what the law probably meant vs what it says word for word, but seeing as its a class A misdemeanor in wisconsin i can understand why little time if any was put on this angle.
I cant say i agree about what would have influenced the jury, i can however say the really big charges as it applied to the gun were left in by the judge. I think the fact that the gun was illegal would have been more impactful in other parts of the world or even other parts of USA. But certainly not in Wisconsin as it would appear.
the prosecution did my friend.
COUNT 2: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON
COUNT 3: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON
these two counts also had the dangerous weapons modifier that would have added extra five years on top of the 2 counts of reckless endangering. Which further puts the illegal weapons charge as a red hearing.
I wouldn't use the word "narrative" either, but there was a post saying he had intent.
It's very surprising that someone actually thinks that he did. First of all, he doesn't seem to have the intellectual capacity to calculate all the risks and orchestrate that "operation" seamlessly.
As much as I don't like the guy I don't think's he's guilty of the charges against him.
It’s already been mentioned that he’ll have a target on his back now for the rest of his life, at 18 years old. Not to mention the personal psychological issues of being a killer and the trauma that comes with it. But he made his bed and he’ll have to sleep in it. No sympathy from me.
I think the money and adulation will be a big help.
"The Kenosha Kickers? No? That's okay I thought you might have recognized-"
“It shows an unarmed Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse into the parking lot of a used car dealership. At one point, Rosenbaum throws a plastic bag at Rittenhouse before the two move off-camera and Rittenhouse fires the fatal shots at around 11:45 p.m.
Soon after, Rittenhouse is seen running down a street away from the scene with several protesters on his heels. He falls. Huber appears to strike him in the head and neck area with a skateboard; Rittenhouse.”
A plastic bag can’t kill you. A skateboard can be lethal, if you’re riding g it, but I have never heard of anyone dying from attack with a skateboard.
Polka kings of the Midwest? No? Ok.
Could it not also be argued that the guy who went after him with a skateboard had just witnessed him murder someone else and so was using justified force to apprehend or disarm him?
i don't think I've ever heard of anyone being killed by a log or a blunt object before.
I think he did. I’d do it too if I got away with multiple murders.Did he just throw himself to the ground?
Yes I’ve seen your multiple posts about this “chase” and I’ve seen the video. But it hasn’t been proven afaik that he was pursuing anyone. All that can be proven is that he was running in that direction. His intent no one can know or prove, though his “threatening” or aggressive nature is subjective.
Yes but the first shooting was justified so it follows that he can use force to defend himself against those who were apprehending him if there was a risk of death or serious injury
How on Earth is the fatal shooting of an unarmed man who threw the oh so lethal weapon of a plastic bag justified!?