Interim manager discussion: Who replaces the interim interim manger (Carrick)?

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We need to be taught a lesson from Bayern Munich at how a football club should be run.
 

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An interim manager needs to have a wealth of experience, and I think Wenger would be a great shout.
 

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We could have an issue behind the scene with some players openly against the manager's decisions? We could be close to bring someone but that someone doesn't want to take care of the game against Villarreal and would prefer to have more than a day with the team? The board could be a bit dim? Or all of these suggestions are true.
This. I''ll wait until this time next week to make any judgements on this. I expect an interim/permanent manager to be announced later this week. Failing that then it's shambolic.
 

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Please, no ex-players. Can we just get away from this sentimentality linked to the past crap. We have to move on. Look at Liverpool. Is there any link to their past within the coaching setup. They tried the promote from the boot room rubbish and it left them waiting for the title for 30 years. The sooner we move away from what made United successful in the past the sooner we will be challenging again.
This. The constant presence of Fergie and class of 92 in media and all these ex players influencing things from outside is the biggest deterrent in our success. Look at Liverpool, City and Chelsea, professionals all around.
 

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That's true. We play direct football as that's how Ole wants his team to play and he explained it few times too.

Apart from 2-3 coaches, Chelsea had same backroom staff under Lampard and Tuchel. The difference in how they play is complete 180 degree change.
Wait... You mean coaches just implement what the manager/head coaches wants and might not actually be at fault for the performances? Wow. Interesting. Coaches might actually be competent and sometime the leader above them just fails?
 

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Our board is unbelievably stupid, I mean like, seriously. We had a perfect opportunity to sack Ole just when the international break started. We had 2 weeks, enough time to find an interim manager and he could have had a week or so to at least have a few training sessions. But nah... Instead let's give everyone a week off and then sack him right after the break, a few days before our crucial CL game. Beggars belief how mismanaged the club is.
 

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A permanent manager could do the same and more.
It has to be the right permanent manger though. Its very clear there will be more options at the end of the season, so waiting to sign some one makes sense.

Also a new permanent manger is going to have to deal with the imbalance of the squad, for possibly they rest of the season. while they can probably improve things that imbalance is still likely to be there as making big changes in January is always hard. So a permanent manger coming in now is already likely to be tarnished by a unsuccesful season.
 

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There are good candidates who could definitely be allured. How soon would that be is the question, unless you think the only candidates who are right are at Bayern, Pool, Chelsea and City.
No mate, I don't think that. There are indeed good managers beyond that.
Can't get Conte, who would have been good for you.
Can't lure Enrique.
Might be tough to get Ten Hag.
Equally difficult to lure Pochettino, who I personally believe is perfectly suited for United, even though he isn't rated here.
 

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It has to be the right permanent manger though. Its very clear there will be more options at the end of the season, so waiting to sign some one makes sense.

Also a new permanent manger is going to have to deal with the imbalance of the squad, for possibly they rest of the season. while they can probably improve things that imbalance is still likely to be there as making big changes in January is always hard. So a permanent manger coming in now is already likely to be tarnished by a unsuccesful season.
Right, waiting six months is just delaying all the problems again, maybe no europe prize for transfer targets for the new manager.
If there are more managers at the end of the seas6 it is because they were sacked or failed. We approach who we want now, if they want it they will come.
 

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Honestly the biggest downside of an interim is that we won't buy any players in January, and we desperately need a midfielder.
 

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Our board is unbelievably stupid, I mean like, seriously. We had a perfect opportunity to sack Ole just when the international break started. We had 2 weeks, enough time to find an interim manager and he could have had a week or so to at least have a few training sessions. But nah... Instead let's give everyone a week off and then sack him right after the break, a few days before our crucial CL game. Beggars belief how mismanaged the club is.
I think this exact sentiment has been written at least 23,000 times on here this weekend pal :wenger:
 

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Is there any club that signs interim managers? Sure there has been one or two every now and again, Tottenham is the only one I can think of. Who else? Its very rare right. All the clubs this season have not had interims and managed to get managers in straight away - Barca, Rangers, Villa, Newcastle, Norwich, Watford
No it's not rare. Clubs hire interim managers.
 

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We need to be taught a lesson from Bayern Munich at how a football club should be run.
The same Bayern Munich who in September 2017 fired Ancelotti, had a caretaker in Sagnol, for 9 games and then hired Heynckes for the rest of the season?
 

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Right, waiting six months is just delaying all the problems again, maybe no europe prize for transfer targets for the new manager.
If there are more managers at the end of the seas6 it is because they were sacked or failed. We approach who we want now, if they want it they will come.
And if all the good targets turn us down? None of the best targets seem to be likely to come now and We arn’t exactly an enticing prospect right now. A mess of a squad a 1/3rd down the league.
so we hire a second rate manger give him whatever funds we have and possibly make an even big a mess of things.
 

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I worry how much enthusiasm the players will have in learning the tactics of a coach that they know will leave soon. So the interim definitely has to be a good man manager. Of all the interim we can get Wenger is the one I think the players will buy into his tactics most
 

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Carlos Queiroz or Luíz Felipe Scolari is the one for interim the best CV possible. Currently out of work.
 

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We need someone who can organise the team quickly and stop the rot. Someone who can communicate well and transfer complex information across to a bunch of young men who are really down.
 

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I don't understand these at all. We saw Henderson last year, he wasn't very good and that was including Ole wanting to play him (and Ole is staunchly loyal to his favorites)

McTominay is just a very limited player. I doubt him going to CB does anything. I used to be a huge supporter of him thinking he'd be a good squad player, but he's regressed light years.

I just want whoever is given the official interim role to be someone that KNOWS AND DOESN'T WANT to be here permanently. And that they bring their own coaching staff instead of mates FC.
I don't really rate Henderson, but he at least comes off line and collects. He also communicates. DDG makes himself look better with hollywood saves while making his defenders look worse by not communicating.

McTominay at CB is bizar when we have the CB pairing available that got us our highest point total since SAF with just 28 goals conceded (14 less than last season)
People must really hate Bailly.
 

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And if all the good targets turn us down? None of the best targets seem to be likely to come now and We arn’t exactly an enticing prospect right now. A mess of a squad a 1/3rd down the league.
so we hire a second rate manger give him whatever funds we have and possibly make an even big a mess of things.
If they turn us down then hey,ho they turn us down .What are you gonna do?
If they don't want it now then they will only want it in the summer because?
The longer we deck around it will only get worse. As it stands we may be out of europe and six points lost in the next two weeks. You want the caretaker to be at the helm during the next transfer window, really? What chance for the summer manager in the transfer market to hit targets to join a rapidly sinking ship?
 

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Ole may be gone but the nightmare continues! :rolleyes:

The same numpties who have been coaching this team of top class expensive talent & turning them in to shit on a match day are still there and one of them is actually now the manager of MUFC.

Things are not going to change, McFred & Maguire (after suspension) will still be picked no matter how bad they play, Maguire will return as captain & we'll still lose against the likes of Stevie G's Aston Villa & Watford & maybe Norwich will be added to that list once we play them.

Oh, and Donny will no doubt be back to warming the bench with Carrick picking the team.

Plus, it looks a dead cert that no much needed quality midfielder will be signed in January as the club won't want to waste money buying a player that the next permanent manager may not want.
 

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I loathe our board of directors with the white hot hatred of a billion quasars.

Awful awful awful.
 

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Ole may be gone but the nightmare continues! :rolleyes:

The same numpties who have been coaching this team of top class expensive talent & turning them in to shit on a match day are still there and one of them is actually now the manager of MUFC.

Things are not going to change, McFred & Maguire (after suspension) will still be picked no matter how bad they play, Maguire will return as captain & we'll still lose against the likes of Stevie G's Aston Villa & Watford & maybe Norwich will be added to that list once we play them.

Oh, and Donny will no doubt be back to warming the bench with Carrick picking the team.

Plus, it looks a dead cert that no much needed quality midfielder will be signed in January as the club won't want to waste money buying a player that the next permanent manager may not want.
Ole took the fall but his coaching staff should be next.
Like I have said in other threads, we can’t just sack everyone, who’s gonna coach the team for the matches against Villareal/Chelsea. Otherwise you’re just letting the team go and do what they want, that’s even more moronic.
 

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Wait... You mean coaches just implement what the manager/head coaches wants and might not actually be at fault for the performances? Wow. Interesting. Coaches might actually be competent and sometime the leader above them just fails?
No one has a clue on how good or bad coaches are. Anyone that says they know are just lying, or drawing wrong conclusion.

Teams are reflection of managers, not backroom staff.
 

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Not sure if he's been mentioned, but what about Villas Boas? He shouldn't be considered as a permanent manager, but as an interim he might be fine. He has been free since the circus which is Marseille. A plus is that he's Portuguese which might benefit two of our most important players Fernandes and Ronaldo (and there's also Dalot).
 

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Please, no ex-players. Can we just get away from this sentimentality linked to the past crap. We have to move on. Look at Liverpool. Is there any link to their past within the coaching setup. They tried the promote from the boot room rubbish and it left them waiting for the title for 30 years. The sooner we move away from what made United successful in the past the sooner we will be challenging again.
Been saying the same for most of the time post Fergie, but football is a mawkish thing and people ( fans, pundits, journos ) always seem to talk about taking the club forward while relating each advancing step to some scripted understanding of what would have been done "back in the day" when we enjoyed what most would consider our halcyon period.
The "boot room" should have been used as an example of what not to do when looking to prepare the club for life outside the stewardship of SAF, but we've ended up falling for the same trite sentiment as Pool, and increasingly find ourselves rejecting any sort of momentum if it somehow plays against the expected traditions of the club, or impinges on that holiest of cows "the United way".
 

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Not really sure who is springing to mind for this.

I think we just need an experienced head to guide the ship and give us a chance of getting top 4. I don't think we want a Wayne Rooney type complete gamble, I would err towards caution and experience. Someone that can setup a side defensively would be a foundation.

I think you have to reign in expectation a bit. You're probably not going to get somebody in the prime of their career on a complete upward trend that is also a known quantity to take part of a season. It'll be someone that views it as a good opportunity because they're stepping up or can rebuild their career.
 

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Our board is unbelievably stupid, I mean like, seriously. We had a perfect opportunity to sack Ole just when the international break started. We had 2 weeks, enough time to find an interim manager and he could have had a week or so to at least have a few training sessions. But nah... Instead let's give everyone a week off and then sack him right after the break, a few days before our crucial CL game. Beggars belief how mismanaged the club is.
The term is 'not fit for purpose'. I mean what idiot thinks Poch is coming in the summer.
 

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Not really sure who is springing to mind for this.

I think we just need an experienced head to guide the ship and give us a chance of getting top 4. I don't think we want a Wayne Rooney type complete gamble, I would err towards caution and experience. Someone that can setup a side defensively would be a foundation.

I think you have to reign in expectation a bit. You're probably not going to get somebody in the prime of their career on a complete upward trend that is also a known quantity to take part of a season. It'll be someone that views it as a good opportunity because they're stepping up or can rebuild their career.
We have a lame duck interim-interim to be followed by an interim. So it is down tools time for the players until at least the end of the season. This all could get a lot worse.
 

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We need to be taught a lesson from Bayern Munich at how a football club should be run.
That lesson is "don't allow oil money into a league" because that's basically the only reason we've not been even MORE dominant than them over the last 20 years. People might not think in these terms, but if the fecking state of the United Arab Emirates didn't sponsor Manchester City, we would have won a title under both Mourinho and Solskjaer. You can extend that to Chelsea and Abramovich, and now Newcastle United will soon put everything to bed.
 

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Blanc's record where he currently is, is dogshit, we won't get top 4 with him. If the plan is to wait for one of Ten Hag/Pochettino/Rodgers then we are going to need an interim who can get us top 4 but who also accepts that there's no chance he gets the job permanently. Right now we are 6 points off West Ham in 4th and Spurs and Arsenal aren't the jokes they were, we are in real danger of being in the Europa League again if we feck this interim appointment up.
 

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An interim manager needs to have a wealth of experience, and I think Wenger would be a great shout.
Wenger would be good, but I think we need more of a disciplinarian to take us to the end of this season, somebody who will instill utter terror into the likes of Martial, Pogba, Greenwood, Rashford, Shaw, Maguire, Bissaka, Lingard who have simply not been performing and didnt seem to care into the bargain. Keane would make them and others jump. We need footballers not primadonnas.
 
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