Me. Honestly , who do you think with any real pedigree is going to come in as a stop gap Manager.
Official: Solskjær has left his role as manager
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Classy indeed, you won't see many managers having the balls to do an interview like that after getting sacked. Most go into hiding then start blaming anyone and everyone for their own failure when they do finally crawl out of the woodwork.
I think part of his problem, aside from his lack of tactical knowhow and mismanagement of players, was he was just too nice, he didn't have a ruthless streak. Klopp, SAF, Pep etc seemed to have the balance between knowing when to put an arm round a shoulder and when to put a rocket up a backside. You wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of them, but I just couldn't imagine Ole properly rollicking poor showings. A classic example was hi fiving Maguire yesterday after he perhaps had just hammered the final nail into the coffin.
You rarely saw him in the technical area for long periods of time, I was at the Liverpool game and despite pasting us, Klopp never left his technical area, Ole did get up for periods of time, but would also send his staff or have no one there.
I know he probably didn't really know exactly what to do, but sitting in his seat while the s*** unfolds in front of him sends the message to the players that it's all fine.
Even f1, you look at Hamilton and Verstappen and Schumacher etc - all with a bit of a ruthless streak but they're winning races etc.
Ole was just a bit too nice. This perhaps also links to his not overhauling the coaching staff to help cover his short comings, or dropping massively out of form players.
I can imagine the quotes are true about players liking him as a person but doubting his ability to take them forward on the pitch. Perhaps he was trying too hard to be liked after Jose.
I hope he has a long time out with his family for the benefit of his health.
Even in that interview it looks like a weight has started to lift off his shoulders.
You rarely saw him in the technical area for long periods of time, I was at the Liverpool game and despite pasting us, Klopp never left his technical area, Ole did get up for periods of time, but would also send his staff or have no one there.
I know he probably didn't really know exactly what to do, but sitting in his seat while the s*** unfolds in front of him sends the message to the players that it's all fine.
Even f1, you look at Hamilton and Verstappen and Schumacher etc - all with a bit of a ruthless streak but they're winning races etc.
Ole was just a bit too nice. This perhaps also links to his not overhauling the coaching staff to help cover his short comings, or dropping massively out of form players.
I can imagine the quotes are true about players liking him as a person but doubting his ability to take them forward on the pitch. Perhaps he was trying too hard to be liked after Jose.
I hope he has a long time out with his family for the benefit of his health.
Even in that interview it looks like a weight has started to lift off his shoulders.
Still don't get this better shape line being banded about. Out of contract Pogba, Lingard, Mata Cavani. Strikers with a combined age of 70.
7th in the league. 120m spunked on Maguire and AWB
Of course he did.
The fact that he denied experienced coaching help speaks for itself. United is the biggest club in the world and as much as people love to bash the board and the club hierarchy, outside of the decision to sack him too late, they did everything right by Ole.
Class interview. A class bloke, he hasn’t deserved all the childish shite he’s been given especially online. He has without doubt left us in a better position on and off the pitch.
Ole is a club legend, he will be around the club in the future for events or maybe even as an ambassador. I think that it's a great thing to not treat him like everyone else and recognize that it's just the end of one journey and the beginning of an other. Personally I have no hard feelings toward him and will be glad to see him around United again. Not as a manager though!That’s just weird. Who fires someone and then does that?
Definitely fits though. Presume that has to come from someone related to McTominay or Rashford, since they're the main two who were overplayed with chronic injuries that should have been operated on earlier.
Well said.
Let's see how they look under a new manager. We have Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Martial, Bruno, Amad; Cavani barely plays and the other striker is bloody Ronaldo. We will also get to see how VDB and Fred both look under a different manager and I'm sure with better defensive organization, Maguire, Shaw and AWB will look good. Clubs sack managers for a reason and acting like we didn't see great performances for Maguire, Shaw and AWB for the majority of Ole's tenure is recency bias. The new manager would simply need to find us a midfielder and maybe another cb if Maguire proves to not recover his form. Its not too much and is far better than what Mourinho gave him
Unfortunately, he turned out to be our Hodgson.
Someone that even the most rabid hater of the club couldn't dislike, but also because it was always fairly clear he'd never bring on a period of success.
Could easily have nicked a cup though. People forget we were some dreadful pens away from the Europa at least. But even in itself that wasn't enough anyway.
Someone that even the most rabid hater of the club couldn't dislike, but also because it was always fairly clear he'd never bring on a period of success.
Could easily have nicked a cup though. People forget we were some dreadful pens away from the Europa at least. But even in itself that wasn't enough anyway.
Jesus, some of these comments! The worst legacy of all this is the Ole in vs Ole out brigade and its toxicity which could take a long time to purge. Calling the man names and insulting a legend is just mind boggling when the ultimate fault lies with the board for hiring him in the first place; remember the line after Jose left; "we will conduct a vigorous and thorough search for the next manager" and Ole wins a few games and suddenly it's "screw the long search, welcome aboard!".
On the other side of the fence, the mental gymnastics defending his time here is equally crazy; he's been lucky to survive the sack on 3 occasions previously and it's been clear as fecking day that this wasn't going to end well despite the top 4 finishes. The optimism was just bordering on delusion at times.
Hopefully we'll put an end to this 90s Liverpool style nostalgia and "United DNA" stuff and look to move forward for once. With the people in charge of the club I seriously have my doubts though.
On the other side of the fence, the mental gymnastics defending his time here is equally crazy; he's been lucky to survive the sack on 3 occasions previously and it's been clear as fecking day that this wasn't going to end well despite the top 4 finishes. The optimism was just bordering on delusion at times.
Hopefully we'll put an end to this 90s Liverpool style nostalgia and "United DNA" stuff and look to move forward for once. With the people in charge of the club I seriously have my doubts though.
So Fletcher then, like what's already been decided?
He's a lovely guy but this is just Mates FC summarised in a 50 second clip isn't it?
This full interview is going to hit right in the feels.
It’s not Ole I have the problem with. It’s the club. It’s a really weird thing to do when you sack someone for not being good enough at their job. We’d be pissing our holes laughing if Arsenal did it with Arteta.
We won't. I think he'll get a job on a low league or maybe international football for Norway.
There's no chance any team in a top league will hire him, maybe if he has left in the summer but right now his status as a manager has been damaged for ever. He won't get the loser tag off him.
Some of us never wanted him appointed permanently and have seen the mediocre performances through the results for a long time.
Arteta isn't an Arsenal legend, if they sack him there will be no reason for him to be tightly and positively associated with the club. Ole is part of the club history, the minute he isn't a manager, he is a club legend as a former player. If opposition fans want to laugh at that they can, I don't care.
I love Ole and I want him to still be associated with the club in a positive way but it’s a really weird thing for the club to release a farewell interview after sacking a manager who wasn’t up to the task. Like seriously, really weird. It just feels wrong.
People getting offended for calling a spade a spade? He was a crap and I'm glad to see he is not the manager anymore. The news about United not having any plans to sack him until the Watford result, shows how much of a free rein he had, and often his comments at various times highlighting how much he's taken things for granted. Case in point is the response to RvP(in the first few pages of this thread).
You know what? Good riddance. I hope he doesn't get any job at United that will influence the football side of things here; same for the rest of the ass of 92.
You know what? Good riddance. I hope he doesn't get any job at United that will influence the football side of things here; same for the rest of the ass of 92.
Go out and enjoy yourself, lads
He probably just wanted goodbye, I doubt it the club forcing him to do it.
How are we better on and off the pitch? He picked favorites and alienated bench players, stuck to his guns on keeping coaches over from the previous failed management and paid for it with his eventual and very predictable dismissal.
We're playing worse football with a better squad than the one he inherited.
Solskjaer has left us 12 points off the top in week 12. In week 12 of 2018/19 under Mourinho we were also 12 points off the top, also had a negative goal difference but we managed 3 points more than we have now.
So even statistically Solskjaer has had a worse start this season than Mourinho's miserable final season. Our defensive record under him has been worse than it was under Mourinho despite throwing money at Maguire and convincing many that we finally had a true leader at the back. He couldn't even win a single piece of silverware with this squad
So please tell me how we're better on and off the pitch
The squad is far far better, off the field we are far far better. Couldnt care less for your Jose comparisons that guy was an absolute drain on us financially and mentally. He took us to a dark dead end. There’s no huge rebuild required now. Just need to get the right man in to take us forward. We’ve every reason to be optimistic and don’t need to wait 6 transfer windows to get the squad anything like how it should be. If you don’t agree with that, then that’s up to you but personally think we are miles better off.
Not surprised, probably looking after his pals.
This.
What undid Ole the most was that we stopped getting a load of penalties to bail us out. Only 1 pen this season which we missed compared to 18 and 22 the respective seasons
Everybody should move on and players must do their best now.
This decision was way too overdue for me to celebrate in any meaningful way
I would've even given to the "he left us in a better position" argument if we weren't so abject in the last few weeks destroying the morale in this club, which was going to happen at some point or another
He was too stubborn to realize the errors of his ways (e.g. grilling van persie over his criticism of him) and in the end it has predictably come back to haunt him
But there's no use complaining about what happened in the past. Need to set our eyes on getting a competent manager in the future
I would've even given to the "he left us in a better position" argument if we weren't so abject in the last few weeks destroying the morale in this club, which was going to happen at some point or another
He was too stubborn to realize the errors of his ways (e.g. grilling van persie over his criticism of him) and in the end it has predictably come back to haunt him
But there's no use complaining about what happened in the past. Need to set our eyes on getting a competent manager in the future
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Pretty classy from Pep there tbh.
Pretty funny how he mentioned Spurs and not Arsenal in those list of clubs
Pretty funny how he mentioned Spurs and not Arsenal in those list of clubs
I think we did though mate. The board went from trying to avoid the sacking at all costs to firing him in a matter of hours.
Yep, he should have an ambassadorial role for life.
Agree totally
Go cry about it. All this sanctimonious nonsense now is nauseating.Wow! What a load of shit this post is
He had no business being Utd manager in the first place, and only ever got the job based on how inept we are run.
At any properly run club he would have been sacked three times over by now. So he done well out of us really.
Ronaldo hasn’t posted anything about Ole on his socials & he seems to be the only senior player (alongside Cavani?) not to do one yet…
I never thought I’d find myself defending the Glazers. But you can’t have it every way. Ole was popular with the fan base. Once he went on his run(s), hubris and nostalgia and simply optimism set in. Rio and G Nev weren’t alone. Most of the Caf were delighted too. As was I. Both appointment and extension were popular moves.
I know you are saying he should have gone sooner. But there was that narrative: ‘give him time’. SAF needed four years or whatever, there was a gradual points/league position improvement. And he’s apparently a really sound, genuine guy. I have long had doubts, but I’d say the hesitation was understandable. Maybe the great and good in the club were asking for a grace period.
I’d put some blame at Woodward’s door. Joel knows he knows feck all about football. But the other clown thinks he’s an expert. Hence marquee signings, not supporting managers, etc.
You can accuse them of many things. Taking money from the club. Keeping football people/fans off board. Overly commercial boardroom setup at expense of football (as you say). . . Not fixing stadium. Keeping on Woodie, would all be problems caused by owners.
But OGS? We all have to shoulder some of the praise and blame for that one.